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Everything You Want To Know About Samsung's 2009 LCD/LED TV Lineup

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Per HDGuru.com

Though March 31st 2009 is the earliest date Samsung might officially announce its retail pricing, the company began shipping many of its latest flat panel HDTVs to dealers last week. The HD Guru®'s goal is to give you the tools to help you make informed buying decisions, so we've compiled the following information from industry sources. We'll be updating this article as more data comes in, so please check back often.

The 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 series products provide cosmetic changes with new styling. The 5 series and above utilize a colored external bezel edge Samsung calls Touch of Color. The 3, 4, and 5 series products are all 60 HZ and sport new anti-reflective screen coatings with associated higher dynamic contrast ratios. Changes include an additional HDMI input and specification changes are detailed below. All 6 series products 32 and above are 120 Hz, the 7 series models are true 240 Hz refresh. To date all other companies (except Sony) 240 Hz products are really 120 Hz refresh with a scanning backlights.

The 6000, 7000 and 8000 models use top and bottom edge mounted white LEDs with a new type of diffuser to achieve a depth of 1.2. All are rated 3,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio. Unlike the 2008 950 models, where the LEDs were placed behind the panel, these panels cannot provide local dimming, which achieved very deep blacks when a section's LEDs are shut off.

All 2009 series products have a B in the models number i.e. LN46B650. Samsung 2008 HDTVs have an A in the model number.

CCFL lamp backlit B650 (32 and above) and B7 Series, as well as LED edge lit series 7000 and 8000 models have Ethernet connectivity featuring access to content from Yahoo!, Flickr and YouTube.

Below is a list of latest models that will be arriving at dealers during the next eight or so weeks, as well as a comparison of the 2008 series the 09s are replacing.

3 Series

2009s are available in 19, 22, 26, and 32 sizes, The 3 series models are all now true 16:9 (the smaller ones were 16:10 last year). Resolution is now 1365 x 768 (its usually called 720p) across the series. Dynamic contrast ratio (an meaningless spec except perhaps comparing the same company's products) is increased from 2008 3,000:1 to 15,000:1. 2009s have one HDMI input for 19 and 22 models, while 26 and 32 have 2 HDMI inputs (as well as component video and composite video) and response time is unchanged at 8 milliseconds. All are 60 Hz refresh.

Verdict: Go with a 2009 for the right aspect ratio in the 19 and 22 sizes. In the 26 and 32, at the right closeout price, you should opt for the 2008 leftover.

4 Series

Available this year in the 22, 26, and 32 screen sizes. No specs are currently available for this series so a comparison cannot be made.

5 Series

2009s are available in the 32, 37 40, 46, and 52 screen sizes. All feature a 60 Hz refresh rate. New specs are: 60,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio for 530 models and 70,000:1 for 550 models, (up from 15,000:1 in 2008), 3 HDMI inputs (except the 46 and 52 B550 models which have 4), 6ms response time (increased from 5 ms for the 2008s, lower is better).

Verdict: If you may need 4 HDMI inputs (the 2008s have 2 or 3 depending on size/ model) and don't plan to use an external switcher within a surround sound receiver, you will want a 2009 model. If you're a action or sports fan and don't require 4 HDMI inputs now or in the future (such as a external box like VUDU in addition to a cable/satellite box and a Blu-ray player) opt for a good closeout price on the 2008 models.

6 Series

2009s are available in the 19 22, 32, 37 40, 46, 52, and 55 screen sizes. Specs include 120 Hz and 1080p (except for 19 and 22 which is 720p and 60 Hz with 15,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio), 4 HDMI inputs, 4 ms response rate is the same as 2008). Dynamic contrast ratio goes up to 100,000:1, up from 50,000:1 for the 2008s.

Verdict: Go for a hot closeout deal on the 2008 A6 series

7 Series

The 2009 7 series HDTVs are available in the 40, 46 and 52 screen sizes. Features include: 1080p (1920 x 1080) Full HD Resolution, 150,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio. Auto Motion Plus 240Hz. Touch of Color Design, 2ms Response Time, USB 2.0 Picture-In-Picture (PIP), 4 HDMI inputs, Crystal Neck Swivel Stand.

The 2008 A7 series has a 120 Hz refresh rate and 4 ms response time.

Verdict: The motion resolution improvement with 240 Hz can make a compelling case for the 2009 B7 series models for potential buyers that watch sports or action movies.

6000 Series

Available in the 32, 40, 46, and 55 screen sizes features a thin 120 Hz, 1080p resolution, and a 1.2 depth using white LED mounted around the edge of the panel. Samsung has not released response time specs, dynamic contrast ratio is rated at 3,000,000:1. Samsung has begun shipping these models to dealers. All models have 4 HDMI inputs and a 2 USB jacks. There are no similar 2008 models.

7000 Series

These 7000 series models are available in the 40, 46, and 55 screen sizes with 1080p resolution. Like the 6000s, this series is 120 Hz refresh and 1.2 deep. All have 4 HDMI inputs and 2 USB jacks. No rated response time, dynamic contrast ratio is rated at 3,000,000:1 ratio specifications are currently available. There are no similar 2008 models.

8000 Series

Available in the 46 and 55 screen sizes with 1080p resolution. The main feature improvement from the 7000 series is a 240 Hz refresh rate. Samsung to date has not released it final specifications for response time, dynamic contrast ratio is rated 3,000,000:1. There are no similar 2008 models.

Plasmas

Samsung to date has not released any specs on its new plasmas and only a limited number of model pricing is currently available. The greatest improvement (if it delivers as promised) is the 600 Hz sub-fields for of its 1080p plasma HDTVs, which Samsung claims full 1080p motion resolution. HD Guru will update this section as more information becomes available.

Prices by Screen Size (All prices listed are Minimum Advertised Price

Model MAP

LN19B360 $299.99
LN19B361 $299.99
LN19B650 $349.99
LN22B360 $349.99
LN22B460 $399.99
LN22B650 $469.99
LN26B360 $459.99
LN32B360 $549.99
LN32B460 $649.99
LN32B530 $799.99
LN32B550 $899.99
LN32B650 $1199.99
UN32B6000 $1599.99
LN37B530 $849.99
LN37B550 $999.99
LN37B650 $1299.99
LN40B530 $899.99
LN40B550 $1099.99
LN40B630 $1399.99
LN40B650 $1699.99
LN40B750 $1999.99
UN40B6000 $2299.99
UN40B7000 $2499.99
LN46B530 $1299.99
LN46B550 $1499.99
LN46B630 $1799.99
LN46B650 $2099.99
LN46B750 $2399.99
UN46B6000 $2799.99
UN46B7000 $2999.99
UN46B7100 $2999.99
UN46B8000 $3299.99
LN52B530 $1799.99
LN52B550 $1999.99
LN52B630 $2299.99
LN52B750 $2899.99
LN55B650 $2999.99
UN55B6000 $3599.99
UN55B7000 $3799.99
UN55B7100 $3799.99
UN55B8000 $3999.99
post #2 of 54
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Based on this information, I am going to hold out until April 20th for the LN52B750. "True" 240hz, 2ms response time, and LED edge lit are basically what sold this TV over the 7000's along with the price.
post #3 of 54
Great reference link and information posted.

Chris
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Based on this information, I am going to hold out until April 20th for the LN52B750. "True" 240hz, 2ms response time, and LED edge lit are basically what sold this TV over the 7000's along with the price.

I don't think the B750 is LED edge lit, only the Luxia models are afaik
post #5 of 54
wow 3million:1 ratio... such liars.

BTW, it's MSRP (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price), right?
post #6 of 54
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Originally Posted by bk.secret23 View Post

wow 3million:1 ratio... such liars.

BTW, it's MSRP (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price), right?

the prices in thearticle? they are stated as MAP minimum advertised price.


TVbv
post #7 of 54
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Originally Posted by Frikoriko View Post

I don't think the B750 is LED edge lit, only the Luxia models are afaik

You are correct. I read the article incorrectly. Still the B750 is going to be an amazing TV!
post #8 of 54
I'm looking into finally getting a new TV. Currently have XBR2 40" LCD and now that I noticed new Samsung LEDs, I'm intrigued.

Initially I was looking at LN55A950 but now that I noticed LED, I'm looking into UN55B7100. The price is quite a bit cheaper on the LED and it's much thinner overall, but I'm wondering how does the picture quality compare between them?

Sorry for such newb questions, but there is just overwhelming amount of information here so it's hard to sort through everything
post #9 of 54
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Originally Posted by bk.secret23 View Post

wow 3million:1 ratio... such liars.

BTW, it's MSRP (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price), right?

Here's a basic explanation of MAP Pricing (Below) --- you'll often run into this where the MAP is what they can advertise but when you place the item into a secure cart it becomes an "offer" that's below MAP. They are then complying with the Manufacturers MAP as the Secure Cart is not advertised but an offer to buy. You'll see this all the time on Amazon and others. It's important enough that there's a Monitoring Body involved to enforce it's terms.

http://www.solidcactus.com/map-pricing.html

http://www.brandprotectionagency.com...FR7yDAodTEffvA
post #10 of 54
Hi,

Which of these models are 'Green Power versions'. i.e. claim lower power consumption. I am looking for a new TV 40/46" but want to try and do my bit for the environment too.
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Hi,

Which of these models are 'Green Power versions'. i.e. claim lower power consumption. I am looking for a new TV 40/46" but want to try and do my bit for the environment too.

The Luxia uses 40% less power than normal LCD TVs according to Samsung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhRR4Vdamg
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Originally Posted by Frikoriko View Post

The Luxia uses 40% less power than normal LCD TVs according to Samsung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhRR4Vdamg

OK, so now need to work out which are the Luxia one's.

Some of these are available to buy here no in Switzerland:

http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?k3...manu=1&filter=

Will take a look at the Samsung site to see if they have updated it yet.

Was also looking at the Sony KDL-46WE5W (would also depend if I can get a good deal through a friend who works for Sony).

Cheers.

Edit: Just looked at the uTube and looks like this is the 6000, 7000 & 8000 will take a better look when I get home.
post #13 of 54
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Originally Posted by szhjcn View Post

OK, so now need to work out which are the Luxia one's.

Some of these are available to buy here no in Switzerland:

http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?k3...manu=1&filter=

Will take a look at the Samsung site to see if they have updated it yet.

Was also looking at the Sony KDL-46WE5W (would also depend if I can get a good deal through a friend who works for Sony).

Cheers.

The Luxias are UNXXB6000 / UNXXB7000 / UNXXB8000 - replace XX with screen size

I am getting the UN55B6000 because I don't need Internet@TV, Widgets (7000 and 8000 models) and 240Hz (8000 model)
post #14 of 54
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Originally Posted by ibis View Post

6 Series

2009s ... Specs include 120 Hz and 1080p (except for 19” and 22” which is 720p and 60 Hz with 15,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio),
4 HDMI inputs, 4 ms response rate is the same as 2008). Dynamic contrast ratio goes up to 100,000:1, up from 50,000:1 for the 2008s.

Verdict: Go for a hot closeout deal on the 2008 A6 series

Unless you plan on using PIP. On the 2008 models, PIP is the analog tuner only.
On the 2009's the PIP tuner is analog or digital.
post #15 of 54
Official Luxia press release from Samsung with specs...finally!

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...71&newsLang=en
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Originally Posted by Lindseybp View Post

Official Luxia press release from Samsung with specs...finally!

I wonder how noticeable 240Hz 8000 will be compared to 120Hz 7000 in 55" size?
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Originally Posted by r0nd3L View Post

I wonder how noticeable 240Hz 8000 will be compared to 120Hz 7000 in 55" size?

Good question. When I was at the SonyStyle store recently They had a 240 right beside a 120. I did notice a tiny difference in that the 240 was a bit smoother...but honestly if they were not side by side I don't think anyone would have noticed a difference.
post #18 of 54
Good news to hear.
I was going to buy a LE 46A756R1M before summer, but at this point I will wait and get the new 2009 7 Line 240 Hz version!
post #19 of 54
Buddy found this article on the 6000,7000,8000. Good suplemental material to the OP.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...71&newsLang=en
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Originally Posted by r0nd3L View Post

I'm looking into finally getting a new TV. Currently have XBR2 40" LCD and now that I noticed new Samsung LEDs, I'm intrigued.

Initially I was looking at LN55A950 but now that I noticed LED, I'm looking into UN55B7100. The price is quite a bit cheaper on the LED and it's much thinner overall, but I'm wondering how does the picture quality compare between them?

Sorry for such newb questions, but there is just overwhelming amount of information here so it's hard to sort through everything

your post indicates you have fallen victim to samsung's LED marketing. these new sets aren't LED -- they are LCD's with LED edge backlighting.

the A950 is also an LEDbacklighting LCD, only with superior multiple arrays behind the LCD screen that allows local dimming. even more superior, imo, is the sony xbr8 which uses LED arrays behind the LCD screen, only their LED's are tri-color using groups of 4LEDs Red Green Green Blue while the samsung 950 uses white LED's (as does the new edge lit models.)

TVbc
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Originally Posted by TVbc View Post

your post indicates you have fallen victim to samsung's LED marketing. these new sets aren't LED -- they are LCD's with LED edge backlighting.

the A950 is also an LEDbacklighting LCD, only with superior multiple arrays behind the LCD screen that allows local dimming. even more superior, imo, is the sony xbr8 which uses LED arrays behind the LCD screen, only their LED's are tri-color using groups of 4LEDs Red Green Green Blue while the samsung 950 uses white LED's (as does the new edge lit models.)

TVbc

Ahhhh, that makes sense. Thanks for taking your time to explain this to a noob.

That just complicates the decision even more haha. I'm open to plasmas at this point as well, mainly the higher end Pioneer and Panasonic models.

I still want to see the new Samsung ones in person and compare to the other TVs, though.
post #22 of 54
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I saw the B650 today next to the 6000 and 7000. I have to say that the B650 looks really nice and I may end up with that TV in the long run. I will wait to see the B750 before making my final decision.
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Originally Posted by r0nd3L View Post

Ahhhh, that makes sense. ...

That just complicates the decision even more haha. ....

glad to help...



post #24 of 54
Ok any improvements on viewing angle?
I'm thinking not.
I had a LN52A650 and the picture was amazing but the viewing angle sucked had to go to plasma.
post #25 of 54
Received my UN55B6000 today but am having trouble trying to get my DirectTV RC34 remote to talk to the UN55B6000. Does anyone know the magic remote code for the RC34 remote so it will talk with the new TV. Onscreen Directv assist implies 5 digit code and gave multiple choices. When I call samsung, they say only 3 digits but only suggested 000-007 and 064. Still working my way thru the combinations but I had to ask anyway.

I see a UNxxB6100 forum. Is there a UNxxB6000 forum or should I be using the UNxxB6100 forum to ask this question? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by damps View Post

Received my UN55B6000 today but am having trouble trying to get my DirectTV RC34 remote to talk to the UN55B6000. Does anyone know the magic remote code for the RC34 remote so it will talk with the new TV. Onscreen Directv assist implies 5 digit code and gave multiple choices. When I call samsung, they say only 3 digits but only suggested 000-007 and 064. Still working my way thru the combinations but I had to ask anyway.

I see a UNxxB6100 forum. Is there a UNxxB6000 forum or should I be using the UNxxB6100 forum to ask this question? Thanks.

Can you do an input lag test by any chance?
post #27 of 54
Why no 55" 7 series I wonder?
post #28 of 54
I was really interested in the UN55b7100 until now. Im not sure what I want now. I was at best buy and the 7100 looked the best by far compaired with the rest of the units. Im also trying to stay between $3000 and $4000. As for plasma, the tv is going to be in a well lit room so im not sure how I want to go as well as it will be used for gaming. So any suggestions on which way I should go now?
post #29 of 54
Can you point me to a definition of how to do it (Input Lag Test), I will review and see if I can do it. No guarentees at this time.
post #30 of 54
Isn't actually output lag.
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