My Budget (Ugly) Garage Theater - Page 2

Jedirun -

Love the set-up. What I see when I look at your pictures is a man determined.

The beauty is that all of that clutter is probably good for the acoustics of the room. I'm sure that it helps break up the reflected sound and cuts down on the reverb, so don't clean things up too much, OK. And the wall-o-stuff in the back should serve as a nice sound barrier to the outside.

Kudos for making it work.

I totally agree with hifisponge (hi there sponge ! - do you remember me from AVF?). That shows dedication mate and acoustically should sound dryzabone ! Wanna swap rooms?

Take it easy.

Thanks.


Whoa! nice.


Sounds good.


IMO, your space there isn't huge, and so I don't think the main benefit, particularly for you, will be output, but rather smoother in room response. It is pretty tight in there, but it would be nice to experiment with a couple/few setups. While they say headroom is key in the subwoofer realm, again your space isn't that huge. IOW, I am not particularly worried about the 15amp circuit. I just looked back at your equipment list, and it already seems you have some voltage regulator, etc, but personally I might consider, if having bunches of amps running, a UPS to connect players, projector (but not receiver, nor sub amps, unless you can spend a LOT on a UPS). OTOH, I don't think a UPS is essential like some others do.


I think there are too many factors to know, at least for someone like me. Speakers behave very differently, and then you have that pandora's box of room acoustics, listener positioning, treatment positioning. So, for me, there is only one option, and that is experimenting.

IMHO, audio reproduction for movies is simply not as exigent as music reproduction. IOW, I wouldn't worry about the guests. I am sure they are probably having a very swell time when visiting!

I've recently read bits about tweeter hotspotting, or something like that, and the collapse of imaging when pulling speakers significantly further than 30 degrees, or something like that, but OTOH some of the best imaging I've ever heard were with speakers rather far apart. IOW, YMMV.

EDIT: I presume you are doing proper research on drivers to match any particular enclosure size. TS parameters. Also, if worried about listeners spread out quite a bit, I would opt for speakers that have very good off-axis response. A couple of brands I think of are Ascend and B&W, neither of which I own.


Experiment. And those results will differ when you change speakers. A little over a year ago, I went for the gold, and made a separate stereo and HT. My HT is way more popular, and the stereo has a sweetspot that only fits one person in its present configuration.

Good luck with the rest of your residency. My younger brother is doing his, and next month will be his final ER rotation, of which he will be very, very relieved to have finished.

Hey man, my instinct is that it's not the best application. I'm talking about the table. Bass trapping will be most effective at the boundaries, and most particularly where the boundaries meet (corners). Where two walls meet is a good place, and where three walls meet, even better. I would think that 3" of fiberglass would be minimal for bass trapping, and would consider three layers to make 4.5, if not even thicker than that. A bit of air gap between the panel and wall will help the trap to be more efficient, but nothing beats pure mass.

FWIW, if your speakers are to have very good off axis response (similar to polar) you might enjoy leaving the first sidewall reflection points untreated. Depends who you ask.

Everyone agrees on bass trapping, and in a more modest room does it become even more imperative.

Yes, something like that. I've been led to believe it's virtually impossible to go overkill as far as trapping for bass. There are members here who have on the order of 50 panels or so in the room.


Actually, I think NOT treating the sidewall reflection can be a good thing with 2 channel. I can't remember where or why, but that with a mch system, the sidewalls will more likely benefit in treatment. Better go ask the experts in the Audio Theory subforum.

However, even in a 2ch situation, you only want to leave the sidewalls alone when the speakers have superb off-axis response. For if the offaxis response is very different from the polar response, then you'd want to absorb the "inaccurate" offaxis information at the sidewall.


Not necessarily, but bass trapping will be recommended no matter who you ask. That's my guess anyways.


Sounds good. Like I said, it's virtually impossible to go overkill with bass traps. If there's an unoccupied corner, trap it for bass. I've been under the impression that the front wall might benefit the most in trapping; but that's just an empirical impression I have while roaming forums for others' opinions. Of course, that's if you have only one wall to choose for a candidate. Best is to go nuts!

You're very welcome. Looking back at your pics, I don't think you can properly absorb the first sidewall reflection anyways, unless you cleared a LOT of stuff out, including the space heater, water cooler, etc.

I just read this classified 2 minutes ago. Looks like a deal, local pickup only in SD! $30 each for a GIK 244, 3 available.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...037#post575037

Nice score!

Assuming that I understand you correctly, it sounds like a good plan. I don't think I can assist you here, as it sounds like you already know what you're doing. Yeah, as for the extent of lobing issues, it's not only about the xover point between woofers, but the spacing between them as well. (Closer is better).

Thanks for the impressions.

Talk about a man cave. Nice work, I bet it gets real cozy in there watching a movie.

congrats on the new speakers. I'm sure they will rock your garage. Have you decided on an amp for them?