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post #121 of 204
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Originally Posted by bad1550 View Post

I just received my x102 glasses today along with the Panny BDT-300.

I have the Samsung DLP A750 and this combo works great!

Only have the demo disc but its awesome!

Bob

So how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.
post #122 of 204
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post

So how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.

I set the output to checkerboard on the panny which enabled
3D on A 750

Bob
post #123 of 204
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Originally Posted by bad1550 View Post

I set the output to checkerboard on the panny which enabled
3D on A 750

Bob

Ok, cool, I got it working in 3D. Yeah, it's awesome!
post #124 of 204
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post

Ok, cool, I got it working in 3D. Yeah, it's awesome!

Great!

Glad it worked

Cant wait for my Samsung kit to arrive

Bob
post #125 of 204
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post

So how did you get the 3D to switch to on in the menu? I can't in mine.

with the panny the only 3d you see is the 3d bluray disks right is there a kit that works with the sammy 67a750 where ps3 or HTPC will shoot out 3d so that just tied to a 3ddisk only??
post #126 of 204
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Originally Posted by Nitrox36 View Post

with the panny the only 3d you see is the 3d bluray disks right is there a kit that works with the sammy 67a750 where ps3 or HTPC will shoot out 3d so that just tied to a 3ddisk only??

The A750 series is easy to do with a HTPC. If you have an ATI card, simply download the iz3D drivers (free for ATI users). If you have a nvidia card, you'll need either the iz3D drivers (have to pay) or nvidia's own solution. Both work with checkerboard output.

The PS3 is a whole different thing. I'm not sure if gaming on a PS3 will ever work, since it only outputs 720p in 3D, which our displays (and converters) need 1080p.
post #127 of 204
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

The A750 series is easy to do with a HTPC. If you have an ATI card, simply download the iz3D drivers (free for ATI users). If you have a nvidia card, you'll need either the iz3D drivers (have to pay) or nvidia's own solution. Both work with checkerboard output.

The PS3 is a whole different thing. I'm not sure if gaming on a PS3 will ever work, since it only outputs 720p in 3D, which our displays (and converters) need 1080p.

The converters work fine with the 720P from the PS3. The converter is made for a Mits, and the Mits TV's require the same inputs as the Sammys. They have the same TI DLP chip.
post #128 of 204
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Originally Posted by Mounta1n View Post

The converters work fine with the 720P from the PS3. The converter is made for a Mits, and the Mits TV's require the same inputs as the Sammys. They have the same TI DLP chip.

I know they use identical TI chips, but I also know what happens to a Sammy when you send it a 720p signal for 3D, it becomes window-boxed.

EDIT:
Nevermind, I see that the converter scales from 720p to 1080p.

And technically after the firmware updates for the newer Mits, the input requirements won't be the same as the legacy Sammys.
post #129 of 204
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

I know they use identical TI chips, but I also know what happens to a Sammy when you send it a 720p signal for 3D, it becomes window-boxed.

EDIT:
Nevermind, I see that the converter scales from 720p to 1080p.

And technically after the firmware updates for the newer Mits, the input requirements won't be the same as the legacy Sammys.

But even after the firmware updates for the newer Mits (which appear to have been scratched, as the notice about them has been taken off the product page for the newer TV's at Mits) the input requirements for the legacy Mits would still be the same as the input requirements for the legacy Sammys. Hence, no actual change in regards to the adapter.

EDIT: What's up with this disinformation campaign, anyway?
post #130 of 204
I've got a 67A750, DirectTV and a Denon SR-508. But I've been reading about issues w/ this receiver, think because it was not 1.4a spec?

Anybody having success w/ DirectTV broadcast 3D and the Denon?

Does DTV supply glasses or should I be shopping online for some?
post #131 of 204
Hey guys, just stumbled upon this thread and new here. Glad I did cause there's so much great info and I thought I may be out of luck for 3D on my HL67a until now. So I just want to be sure that I have things right here cause I've been reading all about needing a PC but then it looked so much more simple with some of the recent things I've been reading.

Is this true? All I need is the Sammy HL67a, a Panasonic BDT350 and the XpanD X102 glasses and voila, I have 3D? For setup I need to use HDMI3 and set the input title to PC to eliminate ghosting. Is it really as easy as that?

Thanks so much for all the advice here.
post #132 of 204
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Originally Posted by Antz_Marchin View Post

Hey guys, just stumbled upon this thread and new here. Glad I did cause there's so much great info and I thought I may be out of luck for 3D on my HL67a until now. So I just want to be sure that I have things right here cause I've been reading all about needing a PC but then it looked so much more simple with some of the recent things I've been reading.

Is this true? All I need is the Sammy HL67a, a Panasonic BDT350 and the XpanD X102 glasses and voila, I have 3D? For setup I need to use HDMI3 and set the input title to PC to eliminate ghosting. Is it really as easy as that?

Thanks so much for all the advice here.

Once hooked up and running you will need to use the remote control tools button or menu and enable 3D Mode 2. Then you're set up properly to watch 3D - if you can find any software. LOL

If you want cable or satellite 3D you will also need a Mits adapter and a Geffen spoofer.

Buzz
post #133 of 204
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Once hooked up and running you will need to use the remote control tools button or menu and enable 3D Mode 2. Then you're set up properly to watch 3D - if you can find any software. LOL

If you want cable or satellite 3D you will also need a Mits adapter and a Geffen spoofer.

Buzz

Hey Buzz, thanks for the reply. Being a Newbie though I may as well clarify what you mean by needing to find software? Since we've established not needing the PC I'm guessing we are talking about firmware for the TV? Is there a specific version that is required for 3D and if I don't have it is it unavailable now that the TV is discontinued? I just don't want to buy the components and find out it's all in vain.

Thanks again
post #134 of 204
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Originally Posted by Antz_Marchin View Post

Hey Buzz, thanks for the reply. Being a Newbie though I may as well clarify what you mean by needing to find software? Since we've established not needing the PC I'm guessing we are talking about firmware for the TV? Is there a specific version that is required for 3D and if I don't have it is it unavailable now that the TV is discontinued? I just don't want to buy the components and find out it's all in vain.

Thanks again

No, I'm talking about Blu-Ray 3D material. There is a mere handful available today. Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs is a view one time only movie for me. The Imax 3D Grand Canyon Adventure is a fun 45 minutes but what is really needed is the release of movies like 3D Avatar for instance.

I'll buy or Netflix movies as they come available, but... Look here for upcoming releases. TV sports, in my opinion, is going to be the big draw, but so fat there isn't much - see here.

Buzz
post #135 of 204
What is everyones take on the difference between these two glasses?
The Optomas are cheaper and use standard batteries which is a plus!

Optoma BG-ZD101 DLP Link 3D Glasses vs Xpand X102 3d DLP Glasses
post #136 of 204
Also look at the Viewsonic glasses - same as the Optima but you can change from mode 1 to 2 on the glasses. Advantage - compatible with other glasses.
post #137 of 204
ordred Viewsonic glasses they are finally available in ontario canada. you guys have it made for getting the 3d stuff.here in canada we have the shipping across the border and duties etc.buy the time it arrives to us we pay a lot more.you can order optoma glasses at walmart in the states but we cant get them here in canada.
post #138 of 204
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Originally Posted by knobby View Post

ordred Viewsonic glasses they are finally available in ontario canada. you guys have it made for getting the 3d stuff.here in canada we have the shipping across the border and duties etc.buy the time it arrives to us we pay a lot more.you can order optoma glasses at walmart in the states but we cant get them here in canada.

Not really. Most content has to be ordered from EU, though you're right, though of us in the U.S. don't have to pay duty.
post #139 of 204
ok....one last time b4 i make a big buy..
with a a750 67inch, what all do i need so i can watch 3d on my tv?
post #140 of 204
I have the Panasonic BDT350 set to checkerboard format at 1080p and the nvidia glasses/emitter. I orginally got the nvidia glasses for gaming. Then 3D BD players came out. I initially had no success watching 3D movies since the emitter will not come on while playing the BD player. Then I thought of starting the test screen in the nvidia control panel on my PC to keep the emitter turned on. Then I switched input to my TV to the BD player. This works great.
If someone knows a better way to keep the emitter turned on, please tell me. I don't want to buy a new emitter and glasses.
I also tried using PowerDVD 10 player on my PC which can be downloaded for free 30 day trial (I've got a BD player in my PC), however I had the same issue getting the emitter to turn on (maybe a driver issue??). The PowerDVD 10 software is $90, the Panasonic BDT350 was only $320, so I spent a little more and got the player. If I could have worked out the emitter bug I would have just bought PowerDVD 10..
post #141 of 204
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Originally Posted by Nitrox36 View Post

ok....one last time b4 i make a big buy..
with a a750 67inch, what all do i need so i can watch 3d on my tv?

anyone ???
post #142 of 204
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Originally Posted by Nitrox36 View Post

anyone ???

After spending a couple weeks setting up a 3d HTPC, I'll tell you what I believe the minimum to be:

1) First and foremost: Your PC or Bluray player must be connected to input #3. Change the input name of HDMI/DVI3 to "PC" (from bluray or game or whatever). That allows for proper 3d operation and immediately resolves terrible ghosting issues. I struggled with that until I found the answer here - I had thought the ghosting was the result of cheap glasses. Unfortunately when using "PC" mode many video options are locked out (such as sharpness, NR). That's inherent to the PC mode and can't be changed.

2) If you're playing discs from an external Bluray player, you'll need DLP compatible glasses such as Optoma or Xpand. EDIT: And a converter like this: http://www.tru3d.com/products/view_product.php?id=31003

3) If you're going to be using a PC, you'll need software that can play back 3d. Stereoscopic Player can play various media encoded in SBS (side by side left/right images), over/under, etc. Example videos are at http://www.3dtv.at/movies/Index_en.aspx

4) If you're going to play 3D discs from a Bluray drive on the computer, you'd need something like Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 that supports 3D playback operation.

5) If you're going to use any other external input (like a 3d satellite/cable channel), you'll likely need a converter. There are many other threads discussing 3d converters and the Samsung A750s; you can search them if you need further info. I also can't comment on PC gaming.

That's the minimum I'm aware of; if someone notes something missing please mention it.

It goes without saying, but just in case: When starting 3d playback, make sure to hit "Tools -> 3d Effect" on the TV remote or nothing will happen.
post #143 of 204
well is there any type of system so that i can play xbox 360 3d throught the sammy?
post #144 of 204
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Originally Posted by Nitrox36 View Post

well is there any type of system so that i can play xbox 360 3d throught the sammy?

I just realized the 360 was getting 3D when I got this email from Best Buy saying Black ops on 360 would be 3D.
post #145 of 204
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Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

I just realized the 360 was getting 3D when I got this email from Best Buy saying Black ops on 360 would be 3D.

so how do we play it in 3d on the sammy?????
post #146 of 204
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Originally Posted by Nitrox36 View Post

so how do we play it in 3d on the sammy?????

Unless the 360 does checkerboard (which I doubt) you can't without an adapter -see the AVS 3D forums for more details.
post #147 of 204
dang, glad I stumbled upon this thread. I have a Sammy 61A750 DLP and now that I've been doing some reading, I think I'll be in the market for a Panny 300/350. For those of you that have this tv and 3D player, are you running it through your avr and then tv.

I'm assuming that when you output the 3D player to checkboard, it shouldn't cause any problems for the avr? I have a pioneer vsx-919 and want to make sure if I go this route, I'll still be getting HD sound as well as video. You don't need to run a separate HDMI cable straight to the TV and one to the avr or anything like that? Great work here, keep it up and thanks!
post #148 of 204
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Originally Posted by Mounta1n View Post

But even after the firmware updates for the newer Mits (which appear to have been scratched, as the notice about them has been taken off the product page for the newer TV's at Mits) the input requirements for the legacy Mits would still be the same as the input requirements for the legacy Sammys. Hence, no actual change in regards to the adapter.

EDIT: What's up with this disinformation campaign, anyway?

What disinformation campaign? I was wrong (and corrected that) about one thing. If you're talking about the HDMI requirements, I wasn't talking about the legacy Mits, which I thought most would have figured out since I referred to the firmware update.

btw, some already have the firmware update.
post #149 of 204
Hi all. One thing I could not find 100% information on is if the glasses and emitter from IO Displays will work in conjunction with the Viewsonic's. For kids the Viewsonics and Optomas are BIG! The x102 are okay, but I returned them because they were acting funny. The IO Display glass fit my kid perfectly. They are retro-goofy looking but work.

It sounds like Viewsonic's and the IO Display glassed can work together. The BIG glasses are better for those who have are wearing normal glasses.

Thanks!

UPDATE: Viewsonic PGD-150 (DLP Link) and IO System (IR) glasses do work together! However, right now one of my PGD-150 has cracked/broken arms. Seems to be a real problem. These glasses work great. Such a shame.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19737547
post #150 of 204
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Originally Posted by ldkelly67 View Post

I have the Panasonic BDT350 set to checkerboard format at 1080p and the nvidia glasses/emitter. I orginally got the nvidia glasses for gaming. Then 3D BD players came out. I initially had no success watching 3D movies since the emitter will not come on while playing the BD player. Then I thought of starting the test screen in the nvidia control panel on my PC to keep the emitter turned on. Then I switched input to my TV to the BD player. This works great.
If someone knows a better way to keep the emitter turned on, please tell me. I don't want to buy a new emitter and glasses.
I also tried using PowerDVD 10 player on my PC which can be downloaded for free 30 day trial (I've got a BD player in my PC), however I had the same issue getting the emitter to turn on (maybe a driver issue??). The PowerDVD 10 software is $90, the Panasonic BDT350 was only $320, so I spent a little more and got the player. If I could have worked out the emitter bug I would have just bought PowerDVD 10..


I use PowerDVD10 right now with nvidia geforce gtx 465 gpu. in short, any card that is 3dvision capable; will work with powerdvd 10. set it as "3D-HDTV" ready. The emitter should turn on automatically and your glasses should work. I use Xpand x102's and they work great (they sync with DLP chip; no emitter needed). The blu-ray is fantastic. Only drawback; my GPU doesn't output HD audio, only standard 5.1 dolby and dts (which is fine). Cool thing though--I had it running through a 2-year old A/V receiver (denon avr-4308), and it works PERFECT. Any other questions let me/us know.
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