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post #2371 of 2589
Thanks, i think you could be right with the tv speakers thing. will look into deactivating them and let you know how i get on.
cheers
post #2372 of 2589
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Originally Posted by edinger
Thanks, i think you could be right with the tv speakers thing. will look into deactivating them and let you know how i get on.
cheers
Or just try connecting the optical out from the tv to the receiver.
post #2373 of 2589
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Originally Posted by drcorso View Post

Or just try connecting the optical out from the tv to the receiver.

On most TVs, the digital audio out port only outputs digital audio for content the originates on the TV itself (ATSC tuner, Internet apps, etc.)
post #2374 of 2589
I'm trying to hook my laptop up via the fron aux HDMI port and have audio coming in via the "portable" aux input. The audio works until I plug in the HDMI. Anyone know if the two can coexist? I can't seem to change the audio source via the "assign inputs" section... has anyone tried this?
post #2375 of 2589
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Originally Posted by edinger View Post

Thanks for replies everyone. the 3d does not work through 1.3, just trying to find a way to get surround whilst watching a 3d movie.

Does your particular TV have an hdmi output? Hdmi 1.4 is supposed to support audio return channel which I specifically meant to address this issue.
post #2376 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post


On most TVs, the digital audio out port only outputs digital audio for content the originates on the TV itself (ATSC tuner, Internet apps, etc.)

I have never run into an issue. Usually all you need to do is set the tv to use external speakers. I have setup a few myself and recommended this to many friends and family with lower budget sound systems and this has been a great solution.

Having the optical out from tv to a sound system is especially handy if you use a sound bar speaker system for 5.1 audio. Many do not support multiple inputs and this way you only have to change the input on the tv as long as you have all your hdmi devices connected to the tv and set the tv to use external speakers. Also handy if the home owner does not have an hdmi capable receiver or an older hdmi receiver. This setup makes for a very clean install that is easy to use.
post #2377 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

I'm trying to hook my laptop up via the fron aux HDMI port and have audio coming in via the "portable" aux input. The audio works until I plug in the HDMI. Anyone know if the two can coexist? I can't seem to change the audio source via the "assign inputs" section... has anyone tried this?

This works perfectly for me. I'm not sure why it's not working for you. I didn't have to change any settings or anything. I just plugged my computer into the hdmi port and that aux port and everything worked. I always plug in the hdmi cable first and let the comp detect the new display. Try that?
post #2378 of 2589
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Originally Posted by drcorso View Post

I have never run into an issue. Usually all you need to do is set the tv to use external speakers. I have setup a few myself and recommended this to many friends and family with lower budget sound systems and this has been a great solution.

Having the optical out from tv to a sound system is especially handy if you use a sound bar speaker system for 5.1 audio. Many do not support multiple inputs and this way you only have to change the input on the tv as long as you have all your hdmi devices connected to the tv and set the tv to use external speakers. Also handy if the home owner does not have an hdmi capable receiver or an older hdmi receiver. This setup makes for a very clean install that is easy to use.

Just be aware that most TVs only output DD 5.1 from it's own source (e.g. TV broadcast programs). All other external audio sources (e.g. DVD players) routed to the receiver through optical out will be downgraded to 2 channels. There are only a very few HDTVs will actually route the same audio format to the receiver.
post #2379 of 2589
Anyone else playing Portal 2 on PS3? Mine is acting really weird. The sound coming from the rear speakers is way louder than it should be. It's overpowering any sound coming from the front 3 speakers. I have the receiver set on direct so it should be outputting exactly what the ps3 is passing it. Anyone have any ideas what's going on here?

I should add that Portal 2 is the only game/movie that does this. Everything else sounds perfectly normal with the exact same settings.
post #2380 of 2589
Hey guys. Tried searching the web but no usable results.

607 problem with Zone 2. Thats why I'm posting here.

Went to use my Zone 2 deck speakers today. Relized one channel (right channel) was not working. I thought it was my wiring though the attic and connections but they all checked out ok. Through trial and error I have determined that the right output is not active on the back of the receiver. I have wired both speakers to one side so it working but certainly not ideal.

So I guess my question is......

Is there a balance for the right channel in Zone 2 to be out that I might be missing or another logical reason there is no sounds other than a failure?

I know the wiring is good from the amp to the speakers b/c they both work connected to the left channel. I cannot get anything to produce sound from the right channel.

I have not been able to find a level (balance) for Zone 2's.

Thanks in advance for help.
Rob
post #2381 of 2589
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Originally Posted by morpheus647 View Post

This works perfectly for me. I'm not sure why it's not working for you. I didn't have to change any settings or anything. I just plugged my computer into the hdmi port and that aux port and everything worked. I always plug in the hdmi cable first and let the comp detect the new display. Try that?

I think u misunderstood, I am only trying to use AUX hdmi for video, and the 3.5mm stereo jack as the audio input. I have this crappy prog that wont output the sound over hdmi so I have to use the headphone out to get the audio to my receiver.
post #2382 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

I think u misunderstood, I am only trying to use AUX hdmi for video, and the 3.5mm stereo jack as the audio input. I have this crappy prog that wont output the sound over hdmi so I have to use the headphone out to get the audio to my receiver.

once the display has changed for hdmi connection you should be able to set laptop to output sound to its speakers. on my laptop, i right click the speaker at bottom of screen and select playback devices, highlight speakers and click set default. hopefully yours is same.
post #2383 of 2589
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Originally Posted by edinger View Post

once the display has changed for hdmi connection you should be able to set laptop to output sound to its speakers. on my laptop, i right click the speaker at bottom of screen and select playback devices, highlight speakers and click set default. hopefully yours is same.

Yeah that's what I have set up, and the laptop does output via speakers. So I connect the headphone out to the the "portable" front panel jack on the onkyo, but I get no audio when I also have the aux HDMI connected. If I disconnect the HDMI I get audio but obviously no video. It seems like my only option might be to use one of the back panel hdmi ports so that I can select to use a different audio source.
post #2384 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post


Yeah that's what I have set up, and the laptop does output via speakers. So I connect the headphone out to the the "portable" front panel jack on the onkyo, but I get no audio when I also have the aux HDMI connected. If I disconnect the HDMI I get audio but obviously no video. It seems like my only option might be to use one of the back panel hdmi ports so that I can select to use a different audio source.

Hi ! Maybe its more easy for you to use the frontpanel, but if you have a hdmi on front or side on your tv maybe you can use the tv hdmi and the sound from the Onkyo. I have a usb soundcard from creative with optical output works fine.
post #2385 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Simba08 View Post

Hi ! Maybe its more easy for you to use the frontpanel, but if you have a hdmi on front or side on your tv maybe you can use the tv hdmi and the sound from the Onkyo. I have a usb soundcard from creative with optical output works fine.

That's actually a really good idea! I'll give it a shot, thanks.
post #2386 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

I think u misunderstood, I am only trying to use AUX hdmi for video, and the 3.5mm stereo jack as the audio input. I have this crappy prog that wont output the sound over hdmi so I have to use the headphone out to get the audio to my receiver.

Sorry my initial response was not very clear. I have my laptop hdmi out to the Aux HDMI port on the front of the receiver, and then I plug a 3.5mm cable into the headphone jack on my computer and then into the 3.55mm port marked portable on the front right of the receiver. Video goes over hdmi, audio goes over 3.5mm.

It sounds to me like it might be the program you are using. Seems like it is probably trying to output sound over the hdmi cable and turning off the headphone jack on your computer. Try looking in the preferences for the program and see if it has any audio output options.
post #2387 of 2589
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Originally Posted by morpheus647 View Post

Sorry my initial response was not very clear. I have my laptop hdmi out to the Aux HDMI port on the front of the receiver, and then I plug a 3.5mm cable into the headphone jack on my computer and then into the 3.55mm port marked portable on the front right of the receiver. Video goes over hdmi, audio goes over 3.5mm.

It sounds to me like it might be the program you are using. Seems like it is probably trying to output sound over the hdmi cable and turning off the headphone jack on your computer. Try looking in the preferences for the program and see if it has any audio output options.

Hmm, interesting... I will have to double check my settings, perhaps windows is sending audio via HDMI when I plug it in to the receiver, and then when I unplug it windows sets the headphone jack on my laptop as the default output. I can def. get sound over 3.5 without HDMI plugged in but as soon as I hook it up things go awry. I'll give it a shot tomorrow night and see what happens.
post #2388 of 2589
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Originally Posted by VonChowder View Post


Did you ever get the on-screen menu display working again. Mine is doing the same thing. Was working before. I had to disconnect everything and reconnect over the weekend, and now all is working except on-screen menu. Everything is HDMI.

On another issue... it seems that the receiver re-mapped some of my HDMI inputs. I had removed the Xbox from the system and it is like everything shifted over one input. weird.

Yeah- everything worked after I did the reset. The wii was working fine until just the other day. Now I only get sound when I select Game and the onscreen display is gone again. The only thing out of the ordinary is I plugged my laptop into the 607 via the front a/v (red / white) connection to listen to some music. Could that of done it? I guess I will just have to get used to resetting it every once in awhile? I might give onkyo a call.
post #2389 of 2589
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Originally Posted by sauron256 View Post

By default, it should be set to pass through HDMI signals. However, to check using the video button on the remote, you can't be sending any signals through the HDMI input in question at that time. So shut off your 722 and then press the video button on the remote again to verify that it is set to pass-through the signal. You should be able to use your up/down cursor button to scroll through the settings for this input.

Also try hooking your 722 to another HDMI input port. You may just have a bad port.

This technique of shutting off the unit worked for two of my devices but did not work for my Apple TV 2 which only goes to standby (no on/off power button) and also doesn't work for my SA 8300 HD PVR. Both are connected via HDMI into the Onkyo, then out to the Pany.

So am I to presume that when you connect anything via HDMI the Onkyo will just pass-through the signal, so nothing to worry about. It would be nice if you could actually see this on the display, rather than just hoping it is happening.
post #2390 of 2589
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Originally Posted by edinger View Post

Thanks for replies everyone. the 3d does not work through 1.3, just trying to find a way to get surround whilst watching a 3d movie.



I know Harman kardon has a 3D firmware update for some of their 1.3 receivers notably, the AVR2600. I wonder why Onkyo is not doing the same.
post #2391 of 2589
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Originally Posted by slvramalgam View Post


I know Harman kardon has a 3D firmware update for some of their 1.3 receivers notably, the AVR2600. I wonder why Onkyo is not doing the same.

Maybe the HK have a USB port or something for updating etc and Onkyo have no physichal options to update, (i'm not 100 % sure about this.)
I use 2 hdmi cables one from the tv and one from the Onkyo and when i want to watch 3d (not very often) i just switch the cables on the BD player.
If your BD player have 2 hdmi you do not need to switch just use a optical cable for the sound.
post #2392 of 2589
I noticed some people have mentioned audio cut outs based on weak signal, but in my case the audio is cutting out from an Xbox 360 in dolby digital mode, only when connected to the Onkyo through hdmi. When I use an optical output from the 360 to the onkyo, there's no issues.

The problem occurs with the following setup:
- HDMI from 360 to onkyo
- HDMI from Onkyo to panasonic plasma

The problem doesn't occur with the following setup:
- optical from 360 to onkyo
- component video from 360 to onkyo
- HDMI from onkyo to panasonic plasma

Anyone have any ideas? The problem only seems to happen when there is a lot of audio from a game, such as a large number of explosions, but if it was a problem with the encoding of the audio from the 360, I would expect the problem to happen over optical as well.
post #2393 of 2589
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Originally Posted by KK in CT View Post

Not sure how you got it to work? Just got a new samsung plasma (8000 series) and tried hooking it up through the 607. The DirecTV box gave me an error saying my TV didn't support 3D.

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Originally Posted by slvramalgam View Post

I know Harman kardon has a 3D firmware update for some of their 1.3 receivers notably, the AVR2600. I wonder why Onkyo is not doing the same.

Damnit...I just got some 3D glasses for my new D7000 Sammy 3D plasma and didn't even think about my AVR not supporting pass through. I called DirecTV because it wouldn't recognize my 3D TV thinking it was the crappy DTV receiver! Turns out my 607 is the culprit. That really sucks. Juggling cables just for 3D? No thanks. I wonder why it won't pass through the 607? Isn't DTV 3D side/side?? Isn't that 1.3? I wonder if an upgrade from DTV would make it work?

Does anyone know of firmware updates for this receiver or am I up sh*t creek until I buy a new one (was hoping that was years away!)
post #2394 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Rob67 View Post

Damnit...I just got some 3D glasses for my new D7000 Sammy 3D plasma and didn't even think about my AVR not supporting pass through. I called DirecTV because it wouldn't recognize my 3D TV thinking it was the crappy DTV receiver! Turns out my 607 is the culprit. That really sucks. Juggling cables just for 3D? No thanks. I wonder why it won't pass through the 607? Isn't DTV 3D side/side?? Isn't that 1.3? I wonder if an upgrade from DTV would make it work?

Does anyone know of firmware updates for this receiver or am I up sh*t creek until I buy a new one (was hoping that was years away!)

Even if you agree to give up new HDMI 1.4 features "audio return channel" and "ethernet networking thru HDMI" ... I don't see how HDMI 1.3 ports (in 607) and cables can handle the required resolution and bandwidth. The HDMI v1.4 cable I bought for my brother's new 3D setup said it supported 2160p (two 1080 pics at a time for 3D).

Be sure the 607 HDMI is set to "Pass Through" video unchanged... that might be the problem.

You don't have to swap cables. Leave what you have now, then...
Connect BD-3D player's HDMI directly to TV's HDMI-2. Then, connect BD-3D player's Optical-SPDIF to 607's Audio in. It might be 5.1, but just select DD5.1-EX and it will matrix it out to 7.1 ... I'm sure it will sound fine ... and it will be in 3D.

Oh, it's the Direct-TV STB ... hmm. Well, same thing. DTV-HDMI directly to TV. DTV-Optical to Onkyo 607. I doubt the sound from the DTV is better than 5.1 anyway. DTV 3D is likely only 720px2.

You can throw a HDMI v1.4 capable switch in there to switch it back to the 607 being the "controller".
post #2395 of 2589
Good suggestion re the HDMI switch. The only issue with running another cable to the TV HDMI 2 port for me is that I wall mounted with cables in the wall. I have Category 2 HDMI cables so bandwidth should never be an issue, I just won't have the ethernet feature, which is not needed in my setup.

Looks like the Onkyo inability to pass through the 3D signal from the DTV receiver is the issue. Even though I have it set to pass through.

I will look into the HDMI 1.4 switch, though. That seems to be the only extra component I will need.
post #2396 of 2589
So, I am looking to upgrade to a newer model receiver.

What's the best place to sell an existing receiver in mint condition?
post #2397 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Rob67 View Post

So, I am looking to upgrade to a newer model receiver.

What's the best place to sell an existing receiver in mint condition?

Craigslist - free, no shipping costs
Audiogon.com - geared to people looking for audio equipment
Ebay.com - most eyes
post #2398 of 2589
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

Craigslist - free, no shipping costs
Audiogon.com - geared to people looking for audio equipment
Ebay.com - most eyes

Only one I wasn't considering is Audiogon...thanks for the tip. Will check out that site in the future.

But, I just sold my 607 to a co worker for $200. Figured it was a fair price for a receiver in mint condition. I am upgrading to the 609 so I can pass 3D through HDMI.

THanks all..
post #2399 of 2589
I have been trying to figure out a way to enhance voices. When the sound is good for voice then everything else will be too loud. When everything else is a comfortable level, then voices are too low, I can't hear much of what people are saying, especially if they are talking low or whispering. Of course, the commercials come thru very well.

Anyone have any suggestions?? I've tried using the Audyssey, but still not sure what to do to get the settings right.
post #2400 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Phuztone View Post
I have been trying to figure out a way to enhance voices. When the sound is good for voice then everything else will be too loud. When everything else is a comfortable level, then voices are too low, I can't hear much of what people are saying, especially if they are talking low or whispering. Of course, the commercials come thru very well.

Anyone have any suggestions?? I've tried using the Audyssey, but still not sure what to do to get the settings right.
Run Audyssey, then go back and bump up the Center Channel volume level a couple of notches.

If playing anything other than Dolby Digital 5.1, try PLIIx-Movie Listening Mode. I also use Studio-Mix for casual TV watching.
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