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post #2551 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Renouart1 View Post

So, here is where I am at - I bought a 4x1 HDMI switch from Monoprice (PN 5557) and have an appleTV2 and samsung bluray feeding into that, and the HDMI out from the switch to the projector.  I am using the digital coax out of the switch into the SR607 with the blown HDMI board.  So far, the picture from Netflix or HBO-TOGO look good and the audio is synced with the video.  Have yet to run a disc, but at least I can say the streaming works and so does the 5.1 sound.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts.  To replace the HDMI board would have cost $200, and the switch was $45. I am not ready to move on from my Onkyo just yet, so this seems like a good way to make do till I find a new receiver some time next year.

Good to hear, thanks for posting. That should get you by until you're ready to upgrade.wink.gif

Ed
post #2552 of 2589
i was just given an Onkyo TX SR607 after replacing it with a Yamaha RX-V575 in a HT install. this unit was replaced because it will not stay powered up. when you try to power it up, the display panel lights up and you can perform functions for about 2 seconds, as soon as the amp tries to kick on, the unit goes into protect mode. i was wondering if i might get an idea of what repair would cost...
post #2553 of 2589
So is there a feature on onkyo to boost the highs? i have the Tx Sr607. Im not super happy with PLIIz but i have heights and no room for wides or rears so thats what im stuck with. so is there something i can do to boost what PlIIz is taking away?
post #2554 of 2589
Turn up the treble.

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post #2555 of 2589
Hey guys, I'm trying to play the "Rock Smith" Game on my PS3 and need to eliminate the audio lag -- that means I have to use the analog output of my PS3. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get my receiver to be able to easily switch to analog audio! Here is what I want to be able to do:

Input 1) HDMI input 1 video and HDMI input 1 audio
Input 2) HDMI input 1 video and *some different analog input*

Is this possible?
post #2556 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

Hey guys, I'm trying to play the "Rock Smith" Game on my PS3 and need to eliminate the audio lag -- that means I have to use the analog output of my PS3. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get my receiver to be able to easily switch to analog audio! Here is what I want to be able to do:

Input 1) HDMI input 1 video and HDMI input 1 audio
Input 2) HDMI input 1 video and *some different analog input*

Is this possible?

What you are doing sounds weird, but I have no PS3 (I came on PCs ... yes, even HTPC) ... seems like HDMI would be best and keep all in sync. As I understand console gaming ... lag is usually introduced at TV. Sometimes there is a GameMode.

 

Anyway, if you must do what you say ... I think the way is to press Input for the Video, then press an Input that is Audio only (like CD). That should over-ride the Audio only.

post #2557 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

What you are doing sounds weird, but I have no PS3 (I came on PCs ... yes, even HTPC) ... seems like HDMI would be best and keep all in sync. As I understand console gaming ... lag is usually introduced at TV. Sometimes there is a GameMode.

Anyway, if you must do what you say ... I think the way is to press Input for the Video, then press an Input that is Audio only (like CD). That should over-ride the Audio only.

Thanks, that seems to work! I guess I'm just lucky that the HDMI feed persists when those audio-only sources are selected.

HDMI is great for keeping things in sync, but it introduces a lag due to the processing that occurs in the conversion from digital to analog. AFAIK, this game is the first to uncover this limitation of HDMI. If you aren't familiar with the game, it is similar to Rock Band in that you have to play songs on the guitar without making mistakes -- but the difference is that it uses a real guitar with pitch detection. The Achilles heel of this system is that for those with decent ears for music, there is a perceptible lag between the time you pick a guitar string and the time you hear it coming out of the speakers. I whittled it down vastly by disabling any audio processing that I could, but apparently the HDMI specs don't specify a low enough latency to accommodate this situation because it was still present enough to annoy me.

So the "official" solution for this is to connect the PS3 to the receiver via analog audio to sidestep any digital processing. It's been a year since I got this game and I *think* I can finally play it!
post #2558 of 2589
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

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Originally Posted by nilsvoss View Post

Fix broken Display on TX-SR607 . There could be a second failure when Display is not working:


Here is the link to: http://www.hifiengine.com/library/onkyo/tx-sr607.shtml

 
Thanks for posting this. I don't have this problem, but someone else earlier in this thread did. Without having it on my bench, I thought it might have been a display-tube cold-solder-joint or driving display voltage problem.

Thanks for the introduction to HifiEngine.com and the true Onkyo 607 Service Manual.

I have published some similar consumer electronics component and/or board level repairs. I never really know the best place to post them. I have posted some here and on ElectronicsPoint.com . Would you agree that HifiEngine.com is the best place for such postings?

Thanks Tesla and nilsvoss for posting this. My 607 display finally went black smile.gif after 4 years of usage.

From reading the posts, I guess the only way to fix this is doing what nilsvoss did? no hard reset would help?

-bodhi
post #2559 of 2589
First try to resolder the pins of the Display, if that doesn't work:

Try to measure the voltages on the display...Hope that my fix is Dokumentes enough.

Regards NIls
post #2560 of 2589
Thanks nilsvoss,

Unfortunately I'm soldering challenged smile.gif I will have to learn how to and give it a try someday!
post #2561 of 2589
Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4

it is not really difficult, you need a little time, and the tools, maybe not to worst stuff.....


Regards Nils
post #2562 of 2589
I've been thinking about picking up a for parts receiver on ebay and fixing it -- this is the only way I can afford a high end receiver. Is there a general site with repair tips for these, and also are there problems that I should steer clear of just because they are too hard to fix? If so, what are the symptoms of those problems?
post #2563 of 2589

Hi All,

 

So my receiver won't output any of the devices that are input via HDMI.


I've tried all the ports and I've switched out cables. I've done a master reset a couple times. The devices are outputting when directly connected to the tv.

The receiver setup puts audio and video output, and I hooked up a device via composite cable, which it output fine.

 

When I switch to the mode for the HDMI devices that are connected, I get black screen "searching for signal" and eventually "no signal". But when I switch to ports that aren't connected to devices, I get a blue screen.

 

I tried searching for a fix, saw a capacitor re-soldering video for the 606, are the capacitors the same for the 607? Or did I miss a schematic?

 

Thanks!

post #2564 of 2589
I don't know if ist is the Same Board, but maybe they give you the List of the used Parts, or you will buy the caps at the local store?
Use High temperaturen capacitors 105 degree Celsius if available....they Last longer.


Have Fun...
post #2565 of 2589
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Originally Posted by hAvAAck View Post
 

for the 607? Or did I miss a schematic?

 

 

IIRC, the Service Manual with schematics is here (I think that's where I got it):


http://www.hifiengine.com/library/onkyo/tx-sr607.shtml


Is Power Supply good (all voltages present)? Do you hear any clicking at startup at all (audio amp engaging) ? Does FM radio work with only analog headphones connected to front? Do lower board analog video and audio work? Try to see if 607 is ok except for ports on HDMI board.


More about 607 HDMI board (might be some help)


http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-444269.html


http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-receivers-processors-amps/60512-onkyo-tx-sr607-hdmi-failure.html

post #2566 of 2589
Sorry if this has been brought up already, but I'm noticing some worrying behavior right now. Frequently, the OSD will not display via HDMI -- the display switches over as if to display the OSD but there is no signal coming via HDMI to the TV. If I recall my settings saved in memory, the receiver goes to standby and when I turn it on, the OSD works again.

I'm worried that this might indicate that my HDMI board is going bad -- has anyone experienced this before? It's very odd that restoring the settings fixes it imo, and tbh I haven't tried simply turning it off and on again but I will give that a go next time it happens.
post #2567 of 2589

Hi there,

 

I'm trying to connect a PlayStation 2 to the TX-SR607, either with composite or component cable, but I get no picture, only sound (digital). I tested both connections successfully on a Samsung HDTV, so I'm sure the PS2 and the cables are OK. I'm using the "GAME" port, where all HDMI inputs are on "----", and Component input is on "1"; but no luck. Sometimes, after a while, the picture starts flickering, as if the receiver was detecting something, but was unable to hold on to the signal.

 

Again, since this all works flawlessly when connected to a TV directly, I have no idea what the problem is. According to the manual, this should work. I'm starting to draw the conclusion that the SR607 is a big pile of poo that simply can't do what it's supposed to.

 

Does anyone have any idea?

 

Thanks,

Marcel

post #2568 of 2589

Sadly, I have to be honest, I don't know what capacitors I should be getting. I removed the HDMI daughterboard and I found 15 capacitors:

 

3x "E2 470A CD" (top)

2x "E2 220 4V"   (top)

5x "E2 100 4V"   (bottom)

5x "D3 220 4V"   (bottom)

 

I hopped on digikey.com and searched through the Panasonic Aluminum Capacitors, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for, especially in terms of size. Any advice?

 

Thanks!

post #2569 of 2589
Oh my god, I think this is not a shame......

First of all size is not the point here, there is enough. But I think you don't have much experience in soldering?
In that case my opinoin is that you better get wired caps. it is much easier to mount. Yes I know that there are smd/smt on the board, and yes tesla they will have a bigger L value, and a BIgger ESR.

Use a tweezer to bend the pins to left and right side and cut it down, then solder it to the board, it will work, we have done this many times to repair broadcast tapedecks.


the values:

E2 470a CD will be a 470µF cap Voltage should be more than 5V ( the others have 4V...)

So it is:
3x470µF 6.3V or higher voltage!!
2x220µF 6.3V
5x100uF 6.3V
5x220µF 6.3V

I think the differnce between the 220µF will be the series/size but I think using the same will be fine.

A tip: make a High quality foto of both sides. I my case, after desolder, I never remember the polarity or the Value....;-)

@Tesla roast me!! ;-)

Regards Nils
post #2570 of 2589

Thanks! I have done some soldering, but never on anything that I would be sad about messing up. I appreciate the advise!

post #2571 of 2589
There are some good videos on youtube concerning the replacement of the caps.
Here is the on for the 606
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GgDEtSug2o
Not the same board, but not realy different.
And as i wrote, instead of the smd/smt caps, you can use wired ones too.

It is not rocket science....good tools will help...


Regards Nils
post #2572 of 2589
Is it a good idea to replace *all* the caps at once? I read that only the 100uF caps needed to be replaced. And nils, is there a brand/series/supplier that you recommend for this purpose?
post #2573 of 2589
Good question,

Standard caps were inside, the last for about 4 years maybe? If you are not able to measure the caps, you will never now, problem is that you need a ESR meter, tesla wrote about that some posts ago,

The board location isn't good, because it gets to warm above the amplifiers.

What you can do is to replace the 100uF caps first, than put the board back and see what happens. Another possibility is too warm up the board with a hairdryer, The caps will get better when they are warm for a time, then cool the 100uF with icespray from yout local electronic shack and see what happens.


Buy good one with 105° temperature range. I think what you will get is ok for the job, 85°C are not the right choice, but on the other hand, I think they will work for the next year.

Keep me in touch when you have a video signal again!!
post #2574 of 2589
I think they will work for the next year.= I think they will work for the next yearS. Sorry!
post #2575 of 2589
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

Is it a good idea to replace *all* the caps at once? I read that only the 100uF caps needed to be replaced. And nils, is there a brand/series/supplier that you recommend for this purpose?

 

I heard Panasonic brand is good - http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/capacitors/aluminum-capacitors/131081

post #2576 of 2589
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Originally Posted by hAvAAck View Post

I heard Panasonic brand is good - http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/capacitors/aluminum-capacitors/131081
I heard that as well... All I care about is longevity and heat resistance so I'm just going to GI with whatever has the longest rated life. The ones I have seen people quote aren't the highest rated but Panasonic does make some that are rated 7000 hours.
post #2577 of 2589

hi there!!

 

first of all, this is an excelent thread and congrats to the community!

 

i'm from protugal and i bought a second hand onkyo sr607.


the ebay seller told that the receiver was having compatibility problems with is TV.

the tv says invalid format, wich is diferent from no signal.

i've been reading several threads about this issues regarding onkyo receivers, and no one said a thing about invalid format.


i need to know to start looking for the parts and repair the HDMI board, if it requires.

 

the receiver havent arrived yet, so i'm just trying to understand if i is a fault, bad config or compatibility issues.

 

 

 

sorry for bad english but i'm a litle rusty

post #2578 of 2589

Awesome, replaced all the HDMI daugherboard capacitors and... no change. Still broken. I'd test voltage, but I can't find that information. Onkyo has totally lost me for life..

post #2579 of 2589

hello,

 

do anyone knows if the "invalid format" message on the TV is related to any hardware fault of the hdmi board, or its just bad config from tv or receiver?

post #2580 of 2589
Not Good to hear, that replacingt the caps Didn,t help
The Service e Manual for the onkyo is on hifiengine.com, Voltage regulators for the HDMI Board are on side 25 called Q8005 to q8009 and you will find them with the Same Name on the Board too! Try to Measure the voltages 12v 4v 3.3v etc..... Regards Nils
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