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post #31 of 1956
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Originally Posted by mselcd View Post

I have seen some technical comparisons. Now that people have the real thing any feelings if Samsung actually improved this set for 2009 and by how much?


Physically how does the A and B differ?
Actual picture quality?
Sound?
Connections?
Etc?

The A version is selling for as much as $300 less than the B. Which is the better deal?


I'd like to know too....anyone?
post #32 of 1956
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mselcd View Post

I have seen some technical comparisons. Now that people have the real thing any feelings if Samsung actually improved this set for 2009 and by how much?


Physically how does the A and B differ?
Actual picture quality?
Sound?
Connections?
Etc?

The A version is selling for as much as $300 less than the B. Which is the better deal?

I don't know what you want for "Physically" different, pictures should give you enough of an answer on that one. It is only 3.1 inches deep without the stand. Picture quality I would say the B series has a little edge, but that can change from person to person. Sound, I don't believe this is any different than the A series. There are 4 HDMI's compared to 3 on the A, a RJ45 connection, and 2 usbs. And for Price, I see the 52A630 is going for about 1769 on Amazon, ABT has the B series for about $200 more with free shipping. IMO, I am glad I bought the B series over the A.
post #33 of 1956
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Originally Posted by Skiingmaniac00 View Post

I don't know what you want for "Physically" different, pictures should give you enough of an answer on that one. It is only 3.1 inches deep without the stand. Picture quality I would say the B series has a little edge, but that can change from person to person. Sound, I don't believe this is any different than the A series. There are 4 HDMI's compared to 3 on the A, a RJ45 connection, and 2 usbs. And for Price, I see the 52A630 is going for about 1769 on Amazon, ABT has the B series for about $200 more with free shipping. IMO, I am glad I bought the B series over the A.

Amazon has the "A" for $1800 ($1799.98) for the last few days. Before that it was $1809.98, and before that, it was $1659.98 for a bit (all free shipping). Fry's had it for $1499.99 for the last few weeks, also with free shipping. I wanted to buy it from Amazon as it has a better shipping option and I've never dealt with Fry's before. So a few days ago, I decided enough is enough, and went to buy it at Fry's. No more free shipping. In fact no shipping at all, only pickup at whatever stores had them left (and no stores anywhere near me). Now I see Fry's doesn't even list it anymore; I called, and they aren't getting any more in, as it's discontinued.

As of right now, Amazon still does not list the "B," nor does Samsung, and Abt is backordered 7-10 days.

The B has twice the dynamic contrast ratio as the A, 80,000:1 compared to 40,000:1. The A has an NTSC (analog) tuner, useless to most people in less than two months, while the B does not. The B uses a CCFL—Cold Cathode Fluorescent lamp while I don't believe the A does. The A has a straight-edge bottom, while the B has a bowl shaped drop.

If I can get the A for $1500/free shipping and the B is still $1978/free shipping, I think I'll save the $478 and never know the difference. If the A doesn't go down that low, I think I'll wait a month or two and see where the B prices go once Amazon and more other places stock them. If I had to buy one now, for the $278 difference, I'd buy the B, based on the contrast and CCFL. fwiw
post #34 of 1956
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Originally Posted by Skiingmaniac00 View Post

There are 4 HDMI's [on the B] compared to 3 on the A

The A630 only has 3 HDMI ports (2 rear, 1 side), but the A650 has 4 HDMI ports (3 rear, 1 side). I know because I own one (the 46" A650) and use all 4 HDMI ports.
post #35 of 1956
Thread Starter 
someone else has to have this tv by now...?
post #36 of 1956
Soon I hope! still working on ABT on getting the price down!! and I'm getting close to come down to the $2k mark now (with tax). crossing my fingers that I'll order it by next week.. I woudl like to see the unit in action thou and as abt is the only one that has it on display so far I might just have to buckle up and drive down to their show-room. I'm laos missing a BluRay player and I was hoping to get this before I got the TV and I'm thinking a PS3 would do a good jopb here (as I can get more than just a player for basically the same price as a stand-alone player).
What are the major Pro's and Con's (if any) that you have experienced with the TV so far?
post #37 of 1956
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Speakers are a let down nothing great, SD is ok, HD looks very good, BD look great. I ordered a PS3 for a bluray player, works great. I am happy with the tv.
post #38 of 1956
Honestly, i don't know why they even bother with speakers on larger units, I would think that the majority of the customers has speakersystems already and built in's just add $/space to the unit. It woudl be one thing if they could be used as a center speaker but this is usually not the case.. I already have a 7.1 system in place that I will use so I'm glad that this is really the only let-down you have as I won't be needing it. TCV would be used primary for DVD's and BluRay so SD is not needed either. Well, I'll be stopping by ABT tomorrow to check it out, will keep you updated.
post #39 of 1956
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Originally Posted by SwedishFishy View Post

Well, I'll be stopping by ABT tomorrow to check it out, will keep you updated.

Did you stop by and look?
post #40 of 1956
Did you compare glare of B650 prior to purchase of B630? Noticeable diffs? I have room with windows across and high up... Thanks.
post #41 of 1956
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Originally Posted by jlg5 View Post

Did you compare glare of B650 prior to purchase of B630? Noticeable diffs? I have room with windows across and high up... Thanks.

I never saw the B630 before I bought it. I did notice the glare at BB on the A650 and knew I would get alot of glare in my house with it as the old tv was a glossy screen. I have 2 windows to the right of the tv and I get a glare from the sliding glass doors in the dining room that get the evening sun shining into the living room. Maybe you can see if your local BB has an A630 and A650 to do a comparison.
post #42 of 1956
I Bought it!!!

Stopped by ABT and go the price down to $1950 (from the advertised price of $2069) I started to walk away thinking the sales rep would chase me down and get me a better deal but he did not, went home and got online and chatted with a sales-rep via the online chat they have at abt and after 45 minutes I had the price down to $1850 with free shipping!!!

They should be here within the hour to deliver it!

Will let you know what I think of it once I get everything hooked up
post #43 of 1956
Hi all, this is my first post here. I hope I have this posted in the correct thread as all of these Samsung model numbers have me confused.

First of all, we are coming from an old 27" CRT tv. We were in the market for a 40" up to a 50." Anything above 42" was just too expensive. I had done a little research over the past few weeks because we thought it was time to finally upgrade to a flat panel. I really did want the new Samsung LED tv but they are just too expensive right now. We looked at a few others like LG, Toshiba, Sharp, and a Pioneer that was on sale but too expensive. Since my parents have had a Samsung LCD for the past few years and are happy with it we stuck with Samsung. We had started off with the Samsung LN40B640 but had to return it as the glare was just too much for our living/tv room. This is something that the store just did not show how bad it was. So, we took it back and exchanged it for the Samsung LN40B630.

When we first went to the store a few nights before I was dead set on getting the LN40A630 (or was it the LN40A650) as it was on clearance. That is until the salesperson told us they had the new LN40B630 and 640 in stock. The 640 had a real nice square grey border. And since I didn't like the curved "red" we picked it. Not knowing what "Ultra Clear Panel" was turned out to be a mistake in our room with a patio door letting all kinds of sunlight in.

After that fiasco, we are very happy to have the LN40B630. Higher contrast ratio and a few other things the '08 model didn't have. Also, we can have the shade open during the day and still be able to see it.

The primary use of this tv will be watching cable through an HD box (HDMI) from the cable company. The other uses will be a DVD player (component), hooked up to my PC through DVI to HDMI cable for games and movies, and a Wii as well.

I did a little searching and found some calibration settings from those with the LN40A630. None as of now for the LN40B630. Right now I have these set for cable and the DVD. (from user genegold) (LINK REMOVED AS I DONT HAVE 3 POSTS)
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Here are my settings using a LN40A630/S for HDTV (Bresnan cable) and for a DVD player (one minor change). My viewing room gets some day light from well behind the viewing position during the day and low overhead light from behind at night.

Mode: Movie
Backlight 4 (5 w/ Philips DVD player)
Contrast 96
Brightness 43
Sharpness 10
Color 54
Tint (G/R) G50/R50

Detailed Settings:
Black Adjust Off
Dynamic Contrast Off
Gamma 0
Color Space Custom (see below)
While Balance (see below)
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Enchancement On
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options:
Color Tone Warm1
Size Just Scan
Digital NR Off
HDMI Black Level Low
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Off
Auto Motion Plus 120Hz Low

Sound
Plug & Play:
Entertainment Off
Energy Saving Off

Color Space:
Red - 59-2-0
Gr – 17-34-0
Bl – 0-6-36
Yel – 57-48-0
Cy – 18-36-0
Mag – 43-0-63

White Balance:
Red offset – 29, Gr – 30, Bl - 28
Red gain – 31, Gr – 29, Bl - 21

A few changes to the above:
- Tweaked the red settings down as those seemed to be a bit high or over saturated for my liking.
- Didn't set the blue as high either.
- Cable is set to "Standard" instead of "Movie"
- A few other things I changed (I can post my exact settings later)

I'm sorry I don't really have a thorough review right now as I'm not sure what you are looking for. But let me know and I will gladly tell you my thoughts, feelings, etc...

++A few problems I have noticed is that the RSS feed for the weather for my city isn't working. It pops up some kind of error that there isn't a region for my zip code. Odd thing is, it did work the first day I had it and now it doesn't. Any ideas?

++And the other problem is that the HDMI cables were VERY HARD to insert into the back of the tv. When I first got it home I had cable to HDMI #1, then PC to #2. Then I noticed that #1 has the DVI connection. So I switched them since my PC is from a DVI output. It took me an hour to get them back in (grrrr). I had to pretty much force them in and one of them made a loud noise when it finally did go in.. Hopefully I didn't break anything. Is there any way of making these go on easier??? And what does the "DVI" mean for HDMI #1???

Also, to others with this series TV...please post your settings!!!!

Thanks
post #44 of 1956
Thread Starter 
Glad to hear you like you b630 so far, I enjoy ours. I mostly watch HDtv, not as much BH (HDMI Cable). I'm glad with my purchase.

SwedishFishy - Good job on the pricing that you got, you got it for less than what I did with the free shipping.
post #45 of 1956
bought 46b630, had it for a week. Love it. I saw a 46b610 at Costco for 1599 other day.
post #46 of 1956
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Originally Posted by machop View Post

bought 46b630, had it for a week. Love it. I saw a 46b610 at Costco for 1599 other day.


Nothing on their site about them. I'll have to check and see in the store. I am looking for the 52 though.
post #47 of 1956
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Originally Posted by machop View Post

bought 46b630, had it for a week. Love it. I saw a 46b610 at Costco for 1599 other day.

Where did you buy it? What price?

I got the 46A630 from Amazon one month ago for $1400. I like it except for the off-angle color washout. Have been thinking of getting the B630 instead but it's not avail on Amazon.
post #48 of 1956
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Originally Posted by eimajination View Post

Where did you buy it? What price?

I got the 46A630 from Amazon one month ago for $1400. I like it except for the off-angle color washout. Have been thinking of getting the B630 instead but it's not avail on Amazon.

bought from vanns: $1529

Now it's been out of stock for a week.
post #49 of 1956
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Originally Posted by Skiingmaniac00 View Post

Glad to hear you like you b630 so far, I enjoy ours. I mostly watch HDtv, not as much BH (HDMI Cable). I'm glad with my purchase.

SwedishFishy - Good job on the pricing that you got, you got it for less than what I did with the free shipping.

This TV ROCKS!!!! Cant stop watching it. The biggest surprise was that it can play .mkv files which I did not know. just store them on a thumb drive or even a USB HD, connect directly to TV and play!! this is my first experience with HD and it was weird watching the sitcom's in 720p, they seem fake now! like you are in the studio watching as they record it! almost prefer the SD quality there!! hahaha
post #50 of 1956
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Originally Posted by SwedishFishy View Post

This TV ROCKS!!!! Cant stop watching it. The biggest surprise was that it can play .mkv files which I did not know. just store them on a thumb drive or even a USB HD, connect directly to TV and play!! this is my first experience with HD and it was weird watching the sitcom's in 720p, they seem fake now! like you are in the studio watching as they record it! almost prefer the SD quality there!! hahaha

That is the AMP you are noticing. Change it to Smooth and see the difference. I really don't watch SD anymore since I got this TV.
post #51 of 1956
LN52B630 Viewing Angle?

I see a couple of people have the LN52B630 now. I've searched high and low on the internet and cannot find the viewing angle listed. Neither Samung nor Amazon list the unit as of today. (And Amazon is up to their old tricks, increasing the price of the 52A630 to $1816.80; must be a "special" pre-mother's day deal) The LN52A630 is clearly listed as 178 degrees H/V. The lack of this spec on the B seems conspicuous by its absence. Anyone have any info?

Thanks
post #52 of 1956
LN52B630 PIP?

The few places that are currently selling the 52B630 show it has PIP. I'm wondering how it works on this unit. On the 52A630, in order to use PIP, it says you must have an analog source on the main tuner and a second feed from one of the other inputs. Thus, it appears the PIP function on the A630 will be virtually useless come mid-June.

The B630 is listed as not having an NTSC (analog) tuner, just ATSC, and I'm wondering how the PIP works on it. I'm doubting it has two tuners, so I'm guessing one pic from the main tuner and one from an input feed?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
post #53 of 1956
Wide Color Enhancer 3?

The specs I've seen on the LN52B630 show it has Wide Color Enhancer 3. Can anyone confirm?

Does anyone know the difference between it and earlier versions? (Specifically I want to compare it to the LN52A630, which only says "Wide Color Enhancer") Has anyone seen the difference on any size Samsung?

Thanks again
post #54 of 1956
Thread Starter 
Take a look at ABT for information on it.

http://www.abt.com/product/39744/Samsung-LN52B630.html
post #55 of 1956
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Originally Posted by Skiingmaniac00 View Post

Take a look at ABT for information on it.

http://www.abt.com/product/39744/Samsung-LN52B630.html

Yeah, that's where I found out most of what I "know," but it doesn't really answer the three questions posted here.

I see you're in Appleton. Me too. Small world.
post #56 of 1956
For those with the LN52B630 or other LNxxB630 sets can you post what your settings are? I haven't seen an "Official" LNxxB630 calibration thread yet.

It seems like on my LN40B630 I am having to turn the Reds way down to 5-10 for R-Gain and something like 10-30 in the Red Custom settings. I don't think it is a problem with the tv. It is that the reds I have noticed are oversaturated IMO. This is true on the 640 that I had returned for this 630.

It is hard to describe but when watching HD hockey with teams like the red wings and carolina. The jerseys are way too red. Also, just regular cable programing SD or HD, the faces and lips seem to have a reddish/purplish tint to them.

I had the same issue with my Canon 20D with reds being oversaturated out of camera. Photoshop fixed that. But why do these manufacturers have the need to oversaturate the red channel.

Any idea of what the trick is on getting reds under control on this TV? I can repost what I have changed from above (mainly the same aside from turning the reds way down).

Thanks
post #57 of 1956
I just got mine today and I agree with the above....this tv rocks. It replaces a Samsung DLP that also had an excellent picture...or so I thought until I watched this thing. More to come as I play around with it a bit more.
post #58 of 1956
I've been waiting for weeks for Amazon to get the b630 and am losing patience. I am thinking of going ahead and getting it from abt but i've never heard of abt before beginning this tv search. I'm just curious if abt is a reputable online store and is their service and return policies comparable to amazon?

side note: i did notice crutchfield now has it so maybe its about to be released to everyone. only problem is crutchfield is selling it for almost retail price.
post #59 of 1956
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Originally Posted by cjtexas View Post

I've been waiting for weeks for Amazon to get the b630 and am losing patience. I am thinking of going ahead and getting it from abt but i've never heard of abt before beginning this tv search. I'm just curious if abt is a reputable online store and is their service and return policies comparable to amazon?

side note: i did notice crutchfield now has it so maybe its about to be released to everyone. only problem is crutchfield is selling it for almost retail price.

ABT is one of the largest electronics/appliance stores in the midwest and very big in the Chicago region. You can call them and negotiate over the phone but we cannot discuss the pricing here due to rules. I got them and one-call in a pricematch war when I bought my Sharp 57" nearly 3 yrs ago and One won since I didn't have to pay tax since we have an ABT Store somewhere in MI.
post #60 of 1956
Just purchased the LN52B630 from ABT. Should have it in 4-7 days. Will update on my progress and will use calibration noted in this thread. Also ordered articulating wall mount and cables from Mono. This is my "first" HDTV purchase! I'm stoked.
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