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post #5131 of 10509
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Originally Posted by geister View Post

So temporary image retention could be visible for days? In considering a plasma display this seems relevant--these posts seem to suggest that ridding the set of IR is a constant process (someone used the term "babysitting"). For example, switching from a video game played at length to Blue Planet Seas of Life, Pt 2 (which is almost exclusively dark as night underwater footage) sounds like a nightmare. True or false?

Geister - I have a V10 now which replaced a 3 year old 42" Panasonic plasma. Have never had any IR and never done anything to remove it. I did follow Panasonic's recommendation on the first plasma to avoid static logos and black bars for the first 120 hours. On the new unit ran the break in slides for approx 180 hours interspersed with about 3 hours average TV or movie viewing per day. And when college football season gets here, if not at a home game (and it looks like my team is going to suck again this year), the plasma stays on football all day long. Of course, it might be bouncing between ESPN/ESPN2/Fox Sports/CBS/ABC/and whoever else might be broadcasting a game. Maybe that's why I've been lucky.
post #5132 of 10509
So I just got back from the Best Buy Magnolia store to re-schedule my 58" V10 delivery date. While I was there I figured I'd look at the V10s on display.

They have 2 50" V10s right next to each other; one that is "calibrated" and one that isn't. They also have a 65" V10 as well on the other side of the room.

While I was there, I noticed on the 50"ers that when you got up pretty close I saw pixels randomly changing a lighter red color. The only thing they were displaying was the Universal logo that acts as a screen saver on Blu-Rays after a certain period of inactivity. When I looked at the 65" which had different content I didn't see this at all.

What is the deal with this? Is this "shimmering"? Is it normal? You can only really tell up close, but it still seems weird how I saw it up close on both 50s but not the 65"er.
post #5133 of 10509
What is the deal with this? Is this "shimmering"? Is it normal? You can only really tell up close, but it still seems weird how I saw it up close on both 50s but not the 65"er.[/quote]

Maybe the 65 in on a different store circuit.
post #5134 of 10509
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

I just got a steal on the 65v10. well under 3,000 Brick and Morter. Im guessing the MSRP was wrong(3400 I saw this) in the computer and the sales guy Discounted from there.


Ok. I hinted about this last week. since i just picked up my panny V1065" im ready to speak

The store in question is only in Jersey, ny, and connecticut i believe. the tv is not even on the webpage.
again- I did confirm the MSRP in there computer is wrong(3400)and the 600+off came from that price making the v1065" a steal. when the guy told me the price i almost dropped, grabbed my wife, told her dont ask questions just give me the AMEX. lol


pm me for the store info-as id rather not post it. if fatwallet gets it forget about it

good luck-


((one other thing)) this MSRP price mistake was confirmed by myself by calling 5 other stores.
post #5135 of 10509
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Originally Posted by defdog99 View Post

Honestly, the sound on the V10 is trash... after hearing it hooked up to an AVR.
I would concentrate on AVR sound before line conditioners or even a blu-ray player!
Blu-rays prices are falling like mad so now is not really the ideal time.

I definitely agree. The sound on the V10 is horrible, they have a very tinny sound as if your listening to it through a hollow pipe. The very first thing you are going to want is a decent AVR, and 2 front speakers.

To me after having a great panel, is great sound. A giant part of the theater atmosphere is having encompassing sound that will give the viewers the thrill of "being there".

I would definitely save the money on all the extras and focus your money on these things.
post #5136 of 10509
Here is an idea for speakers.

Swan F2.2F Below

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post #5137 of 10509
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Here is an idea for speakers.

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I'm buying 2 to use with my IPOD.
post #5138 of 10509
When ?
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post #5139 of 10509
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I'm buying 2 to use with my IPOD.

Lolz
post #5140 of 10509
Can the direct tv remote change the volume on an AVR? I haven't been able to find a good forum on directTV. Thanks. My harmony universal remote wasn't up to the dvr functions, so it went in the drawer after 5 minutes.
post #5141 of 10509
Does the V10 upconvert standard resolution to 1080p?

I have a Dishnet converter VIP211 and my options for HD are 1080i and 720p.

Ny receiver does not convert up or down.

Thanks
post #5142 of 10509
Speaking of speakers, you can get 2 polk 60s on newegg for the price of 1 polk speaker at bb. ~ $117 each
post #5143 of 10509
While I'm waiting for my 58 to come in on Tuesday from Cleveland (thanks Chris!) I was wondering if any of you have used a wireless adapter to access any of the Vieracast stuff? I thought I saw in one of the threads that a Linksys game adapter will work...
post #5144 of 10509
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Originally Posted by pakman23 View Post

While I'm waiting for my 58 to come in on Tuesday from Cleveland (thanks Chris!) I was wondering if any of you have used a wireless adapter to access any of the Vieracast stuff? I thought I saw in one of the threads that a Linksys game adapter will work...

Yes, get a WET610N which replaced the WGA600N (also works well). Other option is a powerline , like the PLK300 from Linksys. I use both (diferent places) and the result is great.
post #5145 of 10509
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Originally Posted by bluesun68 View Post

Can the direct tv remote change the volume on an AVR? I haven't been able to find a good forum on directTV. Thanks. My harmony universal remote wasn't up to the dvr functions, so it went in the drawer after 5 minutes.

My DirecTV remote changes the volume on my Pioneer Elite AVR. I don't remember what I did to program it, though. I think there were instructions in the DirecTV software itself.
post #5146 of 10509
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Here is an idea for speakers.

Swan F2.2F Below


Hi,

Just asking but are these are good as the Bose?!!!!


Bazzy!
post #5147 of 10509
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Originally Posted by josthus View Post

ONE PROBLEM with this TV. For some stupid reason, the optical digital out on the TV will output in stereo only when viewing an HDMI source. Panny tech support confirmed this, which makes the output really useless. It could have been VERY NICE to have a single optical audio cable running from the TV, but I found 50-foot cable cheap enough it doesn't matter too much. But not passing an optical signal in 5.1 (at least) was a real bonehead move by Panasonic.

Did you consider putting an HDMI/Optical Audio switch between the TV and your AVR? I checked on Monoprice and the product ID: 5557 might meet your needs, but it won't be available for 2 weeks.
post #5148 of 10509
So has anyone hooked up Viera Cast on this beast. id like to go wireless do i need one of these hooked up in to the back of the TV.?

post #5149 of 10509
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Originally Posted by shedberg View Post

Just got my 54" Panny delivered. Thanks Cleveland Plasma and Chad - the TV looks GREAT! No problems with delivery except it was an older couple that had trouble so I helped carry it in the house. Decided not to try for help with the stand - roommate gets home around 4:30. All in all, VERY happy and no handshake issue with my Onkyo 706! LOVE this TV!

Thanks, I'm very happy to hear that!
post #5150 of 10509
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Originally Posted by mplsboywonder View Post

I definitely agree. The sound on the V10 is horrible, they have a very tinny sound as if your listening to it through a hollow pipe. The very first thing you are going to want is a decent AVR, and 2 front speakers.

To me after having a great panel, is great sound. A giant part of the theater atmosphere is having encompassing sound that will give the viewers the thrill of "being there".

I would definitely save the money on all the extras and focus your money on these things.

How much does one need to pay for an AVR. Any recommendations?
post #5151 of 10509
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Originally Posted by bluesun68 View Post

Can the direct tv remote change the volume on an AVR? I haven't been able to find a good forum on directTV. Thanks. My harmony universal remote wasn't up to the dvr functions, so it went in the drawer after 5 minutes.

The best forum I've come across for DTV stuff is DBSTALK.

Which Harmony do you have? My 676 works just great for controlling my entire system.
post #5152 of 10509
Panasonic 65" V10



It was calibrated today by Lee Gallagher (http://www.advancedaudiovisual.tv) from Phoenix, AZ.

I used the break-in slides (Sd card) for 180 hours per D-Nice instructions (added 60 more hours to it).

FANTASTIC Results. Calibration reports are included. Lee did a wonderful job on my set. He made sure that the grayscale is as perfect as possible and then he moved on to adjust other areas. The PQ is unbelievable. I can never thank him enough.

Other equipments:

Denon 3800BDCI (Bluray Player)
Toshiba HD-A35 (HD DVD Player)
DirecTV
Denon 3808 (AVR)

Here is Lee getting ready to calibrate

 

THX Mode - Color report.pdf 85.0771484375k . file
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Custom Mode Post-Calibration.pdf 139.5810546875k . file

 

Custom Mode - Color report.pdf 87.4521484375k . file

 

THX Mode Post-Calibration.pdf 141.7587890625k . file
post #5153 of 10509
Question about picture quality on my 50" V10. I've had it for a few months now. I am really starting to notice that when there are commercials that have a fading color background, the image shows circle lines, almost like what you see in a sunspot.
So say the background has a small yellowish circle in the center of the tv and it slowly fades to orange as it reaches the outer sides of the tv. As the shades graduate, you see the edges of the colors. It isn't a smooth fade.
I've only used the picture settings from Cnet. When playing a 1080p movie, I don't see an issue. When watching TV from Direct TV, on SD more so that HD, I see a lot of this color issue.

I am going HDMI from my DTV receiver to the TV. Using a monoprice.com HDMI cable, the heavier ones at the highest bandwidth they offer.

Anyone know what I am talking about or seen the issue?

The camera over exagerated the colors but you get the idea....
post #5154 of 10509
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Originally Posted by sharok View Post

It was calibrated today by Lee Gallagher ... from Phoenix, AZ.

Thanks for the calibration report. I've included it in the flat panel (Post#2) list that's linked at the bottom of my post.
post #5155 of 10509
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Originally Posted by jackal2001 View Post

Question about picture quality on my 50" V10. I've had it for a few months now. I am really starting to notice that when there are commercials that have a fading color background, the image shows circle lines, almost like what you see in a sunspot.
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Anyone know what I am talking about or seen the issue?

I have. Several times. Its called color banding
http://easyhdtv.blogspot.com/2007/02...v-display.html

Problem is as of now, I cant be certain if that was in the source or it was banding. The next time I see it, I will rewind it and play it on my LCD to compare.

Anyone already have an answer to this ?
post #5156 of 10509
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Originally Posted by Bazzy View Post

Hi,

Just asking but are these are good as the Bose?!!!!


Bazzy!

I cant decide if this is funnier than the iPod comment.

I guess yes by definition : Better Off (with) Something Else

(Yes the sarcasm meter registered :- )
post #5157 of 10509
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Originally Posted by mercury View Post

So has anyone hooked up Viera Cast on this beast. id like to go wireless do i need one of these hooked up in to the back of the TV.?


I dont think the V10 has a USB port.
post #5158 of 10509
Where in the picture settings do I find this HD Size 2 option?
post #5159 of 10509
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Originally Posted by geister View Post

So temporary image retention could be visible for days? In considering a plasma display this seems relevant--these posts seem to suggest that ridding the set of IR is a constant process (someone used the term "babysitting"). For example, switching from a video game played at length to Blue Planet Seas of Life, Pt 2 (which is almost exclusively dark as night underwater footage) sounds like a nightmare. True or false?



So, is this a matter of luck and/or viewing habits or do others find themselves constantly dealing with IR?

When I bought mine I decided not to do anything special to break it in an see what would happen
in a real world set up. I am off work on disability so I am watching a lot of TV. long before I had 200 Hours on the TV I would get into something on the computer like now and set the TIVO which I had on at the time on pause which those with TIVO know will keep the same frame on the TV for a good while ( not sure of the time out limit) I know it has been on for 1/2 hr or more with NO sign on Burn IN or IR. Form all the reading I have time to do I see that most engineers are saying IR or Burn in is not a problem and in my test I find that my picture looks great with no problems with any type of burn in. The only thing I noticed was I had to readjust the pictures setting after about the 200 Hour mark which would be normal on any set now that the TV is broken in. The only thing I did wrong on buying the 50V was not buying the 54, I had thought anything over 46 would be to big for my room but could only get the 50 and now after seeing the Difference between SD and HD TV,s you can really go a lot bigger then you would think.
post #5160 of 10509
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Originally Posted by Audiotitis View Post

I dont think the V10 has a USB port.


then how does one use viera cast with a wireless connection?
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