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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
I am planning on buying this from a guy off Craigslist and these are the only photos he said he could get me.

I am paying half, he is shipping and then i will pay the rest when i inspect the tv, but half is still alot of money

my question is. does the pioneer have this backlight that projects on the wall?




post #2 of 28
No that's something he added.
post #3 of 28
By the way if it were me buying that TV I'd have him take more pics with the lights on to see the overall condidtion of the unit.
post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by vidpro View Post

by the way if it were me buying that tv i'd have him take more pics with the lights on to see the overall condidtion of the unit.

+1
post #5 of 28
I agree - it's easy to get seduced by the sexy Kuro pic. I'd also want some info about how it's going to be shipped and packed. How far away is the seller? Is it being packed in the original box? Also if he really wanted to sell it, he sould be willing to send you any other pics you might want to see - including maybe even pics all packed up...hope this is a good deal for you to have to go through all the trouble and angst. I'd rather go to BB or talk to a forum sponsor...
post #6 of 28
The fact that he said "these are the only pics he can get you" would make me very suspicious. Everyone has a digital camera nowadays. I would wonder if he even has a Kuro to take a picture of and that he didn't just steal these off of a website.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by kinglm View Post

I agree - it's easy to get seduced by the sexy Kuro pic. I'd also want some info about how it's going to be shipped and packed. How far away is the seller? Is it being packed in the original box? Also if he really wanted to sell it, he sould be willing to send you any other pics you might want to see - including maybe even pics all packed up...hope this is a good deal for you to have to go through all the trouble and angst. I'd rather go to BB or talk to a forum sponsor...

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The glowing blue backlight in the picture is called "bias lighting." Instead of blue or any other distinct tint (a marketing hype a couple of manufacturers [not Pioneer] DID build into their sets), the recommended bias lighting should be 10% white (a pale gray). The purpose is to reduce eye strain from watching such a relatively small screen in a completely dark room. CinemaQuest is a company that makes a product line called Ideal-Lume. Joe Kane's Blu-ray DVE is a good source for additional info and set-up.

Don't have it now, but am considering adding some kind of bias lighting to my 111.
post #8 of 28
You should be careful about the whole "pay-then-ship" routine. You might want to buy locally.
post #9 of 28
Wouldnt buy a tv off of ebay or craigslist. Period.
post #10 of 28
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I am paying half, he is shipping and then i will pay the rest when i inspect the tv, but half is still alot of money

That screams "scam" to me. I personally wouldn't buy it unless you can pick it up locally.
post #11 of 28
Personally I would only buy something something like that used only if I could inspect it in person before buying.

What happens it arrives damaged? What recourse do you have? Like you said it's alot of money. Buyer beware........
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by dizzy810 View Post

the fact that he said "these are the only pics he can get you" would make me very suspicious. Everyone has a digital camera nowadays. I would wonder if he even has a kuro to take a picture of and that he didn't just steal these off of a website.

+1
post #13 of 28
I'd be very wary of this sale; in fact, I would not do it unless you can see the TV in person. Why not just get a new one from BB or from a sponsor here? They are heavily discounted now.
post #14 of 28
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post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 
that is what i was thinking.
I guess i just needed to hear from some one else.
thanks guys.
post #16 of 28
so fill us in. what craigslist city? so we can check out this scammers ad. did he want paypal, western union, cash??

half of what? you can get a brand new one for ~$3000 from authorized dealer with 2 year pioneer elite warranty.
post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 
he said he as since moved to orlando and is a student just trying to pay some bills.
this is what he said in a recent email, when i asked him about the backlighitng.
"yes it has to do with the auto lighting feature u have the option to turn off tho oh and the remote batteries r dying they r good for now tho maybe a week or 2"

so I say either buy a damn $5 disposible camera and take some pictures in the daylight of the front and back and of the receipt or the deal is off.

I will wait to see what he says.

he wanted to used western union but i said no. i tried paypal but he said no. so i was contemplating send a USPS money order with delivery and signature comfirmation.

i should know this is to good to be true. i will just continue to save each week till i have enough for a brand new one.
post #18 of 28
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post #19 of 28
I wouldn't even bother with that, dude.
post #20 of 28
You are wasting your time, move on. I would hate for anybody to get taken.
post #21 of 28
Thread Starter 
again thanks for the input. I know better than that. I guess my wants got in the way of my common sense
post #22 of 28
It sounds like your innate skepticism is working just fine. This is most definitely a scam.
post #23 of 28
Another vote that says this is a SCAM.

I bet if you told him you had decided against shipping and would drive down and pickup the set yourself, everything would change.
post #24 of 28
$1200 no way.....
post #25 of 28
I had someone try to scam me though Craigslist for a Receiver I was selling. See I was asking $400, but He sent a Check a Check for I think $1900. Wanted me to give the Extra so some person. It just screamed Scam. See your the sucker depositing the check and you get the money right away, but it can be up to like a month Later when the check is found out to be a fake and you loose all that money and you've sent the Hardware away and given them money in return. Using the Routing numbers on the check, I found out it was supposedly from a Bank on the other side of the country. I called the Bank and sure enough it was a fake account. I still have that check, I haven't heard anything from that person either. Not a e-mail in a while. Craigslist I think it should only be used to buy things that you can drive to, to look at and Pick up. Stick with CASH. (Personal Checks or Business Looking Checks, I just would never trust!!!)For the most part the things I've gotten from Craigslist and Sold on Craigslist have gone off without a hitch. The most expensive thing I've gotten from Craiglist was a $500 Jetski Trailer which in fact turn out to be a even better deal then I expected as the trailer was far better then I expected. He had 2 for sale, same price, Single ski trailers because he had gotten a Dual Ski Trailer. Garage Kept. Sometimes though if you plan to go off to who knows where, it might be smart to bring a friend with you, even if they stay near your Car for your own Protection. Be smart about it.

Personally I wouldn't buy any TV though Craigslist or ebay without looking at it and picking it up personally. Even if it's Packed good, in the Original Box, it could still get a cracked screen during shipping. It happens to even NEW HDTV's from a Name brand store. What you think is a good deal could end up being a costly deal in the long run.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Tom V View Post

+1

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The glowing blue backlight in the picture is called "bias lighting." Instead of blue or any other distinct tint (a marketing hype a couple of manufacturers [not Pioneer] DID build into their sets), the recommended bias lighting should be 10% white (a pale gray). The purpose is to reduce eye strain from watching such a relatively small screen in a completely dark room. CinemaQuest is a company that makes a product line called Ideal-Lume. Joe Kane's Blu-ray DVE is a good source for additional info and set-up.

Don't have it now, but am considering adding some kind of bias lighting to my 111.

I went this route with my Panny 85U and will move my "generic" bias light from my Panny to my 111FD. You can spend the $60-$90 on the Ideal-Lume (forget how much it costs), or you can make your own cheaper version for about $16-$20.

This is a link from the Panny 85U thread and my buddy Elway Lite posted the materials, cost, and even a pic to show you how to do it (you need to take the filter shield off the fixture and use electrical tape on the bulb to cut off some of the light).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light&page=180

All I know is, that this made a big difference on my Panny and am sure it will help with my Elite as well.

BTW...Elway Lite did eventually purchase the Ideal-Lume (was thrown in with his professional calibration), but he said the difference in effect was marginal.
post #27 of 28
1200 rofl thats the biggest scam. Do not send him any money
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by rkish View Post

I went this route with my Panny 85U and will move my "generic" bias light from my Panny to my 111FD. You can spend the $60-$90 on the Ideal-Lume (forget how much it costs), or you can make your own cheaper version for about $16-$20.

This is a link from the Panny 85U thread and my buddy Elway Lite posted the materials, cost, and even a pic to show you how to do it (you need to take the filter shield off the fixture and use electrical tape on the bulb to cut off some of the light).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light&page=180

All I know is, that this made a big difference on my Panny and am sure it will help with my Elite as well.

BTW...Elway Lite did eventually purchase the Ideal-Lume (was thrown in with his professional calibration), but he said the difference in effect was marginal.

Thanks. Looks like a good, economical solution.
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