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post #91 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:01pm
Does anybody know if 1.02.04 firmware allow subtitle to work even though you moved the video vertically? Please let me know, Thanks.
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post #92 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by cyberdad View Post

I'm just transferring a large iso file to my drive.
I'll test this one in about 15 minutes, and get back

Just tested a large blu-ray iso, and it works not perfect!
After a few minutes, I miss sound and the movie is stuttering.
This happens every 5 minutes
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post #93 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:12pm
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More audio formats for MKV container

Does anyone knows which (new?) audio formats?

TIA
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post #94 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:28pm
Can anyone tell me as i cant seem to find an answer... (and its related to this thread because of new 24hz update :P)

Whats the difference between 24hz and 60hz and why do people prefer 24hz?

Also how can i tell if 24hz is supported by my tv? I tried it and its fine and no stutter from previous versions but not sure if i should be running it or not?

FYI i have a samsung le40a656 please answer me somebody!
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post #95 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by teksigns View Post

the seagate is only about half full .....
does not work at all now ....

the sata docking plays but they still have about 10 gigs free
just very very slow at responding to remote

the half full one isn't the one having the delayed responses though....what's capacity on the docked drive ? try deleting another 5-10g just to test....or read my earlier post and then decide (if you think the similarities are many...there is nobody else that has reported similar to the best of my knowledge)

here's the link to earlier post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=#post16202888
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post #96 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by jonkrav View Post

Can anyone tell me as i cant seem to find an answer... (and its related to this thread because of new 24hz update :P)

Whats the difference between 24hz and 60hz and why do people prefer 24hz?

Also how can i tell if 24hz is supported by my tv? I tried it and its fine and no stutter from previous versions but not sure if i should be running it or not?

FYI i have a samsung le40a656 please answer me somebody!

according to the user guide for your tv....






[img=http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6200/samyzn.jpg]
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post #97 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by cyberdad View Post

Just tested a large blu-ray iso, and it works not perfect!
After a few minutes, I miss sound and the movie is stuttering.
This happens every 5 minutes

which sort of audio?
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post #98 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by jsimeo View Post

I found improvement that is not in the changelist of 1.02.04 and also new bug

Searching at speed 8x is now very good! 16x is like it was.

The bug: Try to 2x reverse and you will see all of your life comes before your eyes (until pressing play again) !

I also noticed that at "2x reverse" the movie seems to rewind in very fast speed but when you press play again you see the real reverse point that the movie has reached.

1st new bug so far!!
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post #99 of 415
4/13/09 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by taz420 View Post

according to the user guide for your tv....






[img=http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6200/samyzn.jpg]

Hmm think it supports below that... still dont know what the benefit of 24hz is though.
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post #100 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:09pm
Hello,

if i want to watch 1080p/24, do i need the source to be Bluray? Or it can be from mkvs ? How do i tell if my tv is playing back 1080p/24 when i watch a movie?
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post #101 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:16pm
Hello

My first question is , is there anyone from WD support reading those posts ??
If Yes , PLEASE keep it in mind some futures :

WD need some basics things like :

- random aspect ratio ( almost all kmp videos 720p and 1080p need to delete black lined up/down ). It's really important because now we can't change the screen. The LCD can to do that .. but you'll loose the sub ( out of screen )

- random sub positions !!!!!!! UP and DOWN !!! Thats really important

- background for the subs ( some of the movies need this option. Depends )

- Subtitle colors ( or add --- > This kind sub )

Looking forward this options.

Beside this all my movies are working perfect on mkv 720p - 1080p / 60 Hz DTS.
No problem at all with mkv now.
Great job !! Keep it up
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post #102 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:38pm
I'm having trouble with this file:

Code:
General
Complete name                    : J:\\Documentos\\Peliculas - Series\\Ghost In The Shell SAC\\Ghost_in_the_Shell_SAC_01.DVD(XviD.AC3_5.1)[KAA][F67F7A11].mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 341MB
Duration                         : 26min.
Overall bit rate                 : 1 817Kbps
Movie name                       : [KAA]_Ghost_in_the_Shell_SAC_01
Encoded date                     : UTC 2004-10-13 18:19:13
Writing application              : mkvmerge v0.9.5 ('The Na Na Song') built on Aug 21 2004 17:46:01
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.1 + libmatroska v0.7.3
Cover                            : Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes

Video
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Simple@L3
Format settings, BVOP            : Si
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : 0 warppoint
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 26min.
Bit rate                         : 1 287Kbps
Width                            : 704pixeles
Height                           : 396pixeles
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate                       : 29,970fps
Resolution                       : 24bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progresivo
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.154
Title                            : [KAA]_Ghost_in_the_Shell_SAC_01
Writing library                  : XviD 1.0.2 (UTC 2004-08-29)

Audio
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 26min.
Bit rate                         : 448Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6canales
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48,0KHz
Title                            : Japanese Audio (6 ch)
Language                         : japonés

Texto
Format                           : ASS
Codec ID                         : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title                            : English Subs (ASS)
Language                         : inglés
It takes 14 seconds to start. The first minute plays fine. After that, the sound goes off and doesn't come 'til 1'55''. Also it suffers one second freezes all the movie.

I'm playing it in a Sharp AQUOS LC-32GP1U and an Onkyo HT5100.

Thx
PS: Sry about my english.
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post #103 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:48pm
I didn't know WD HD supports bluray ISOs.
Does it?


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Originally Posted by cyberdad View Post

Just tested a large blu-ray iso, and it works not perfect!
After a few minutes, I miss sound and the movie is stuttering.
This happens every 5 minutes
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post #104 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:50pm
AHHH I updated to 1.02.04 and now it won't recognize my WD Passport 500gb or my 8gb thumbdrive. I upgraded the firmware with my Passport and obviously it read it fine.
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post #105 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by Iveo83 View Post

AHHH I updated to 1.02.04 and now it won't recognize my WD Passport 500gb or my 8gb thumbdrive. I upgraded the firmware with my Passport and obviously it read it fine.

of course RIGHT after i post this it reads the drive. It wouldn't read it for over 30min. At least it's working!!
Will postback with my findings..
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post #106 of 415
4/13/09 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by jonkrav View Post

Can anyone tell me as i cant seem to find an answer... (and its related to this thread because of new 24hz update :P)

Whats the difference between 24hz and 60hz and why do people prefer 24hz?

Also how can i tell if 24hz is supported by my tv? I tried it and its fine and no stutter from previous versions but not sure if i should be running it or not?

FYI i have a samsung le40a656 please answer me somebody!

Your TV does support 1080p/24Hz, I know because a friend of mine has the same model.

I have a different Samsung model, but they all are very similar as far as the setup is concerned. Set the WD TV-HD to 1080p/24, and press 'Info' on your Samsung remote. It should show you that it is running at 1080p/24. If your TV supports 100Hz (I think it does, not 100% sure though), turn it off in the setup also while you are at it.

People (cineastes in particular) prefer the 24Hz (23.976Hz rather), because that's the native frame rate of movies, a necessity for the authentic 'film look'. If you play them back at 60Hz, they look more like videos, or TV for that matter. That authentic look is lost.
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post #107 of 415
4/13/09 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by molhopicante View Post

No OGG/Vorbis sound in MKV.

Yeah, I'm expecting this too...
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post #108 of 415
4/13/09 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by vanylapep View Post

Hello,

if i want to watch 1080p/24, do i need the source to be Bluray? Or it can be from mkvs ? How do i tell if my tv is playing back 1080p/24 when i watch a movie?

It does not have to be Blu-ray, any source with a 24Hz (23.976Hz) frame rate can be used, including .mkvs, of course. Use MediaInfo for detailed information of those files.

Your TV should have an 'info' button or similar, showing the resolution and frame rate currently in use. For Samsung TVs, it's the 'Info' button on the remote.
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post #109 of 415
4/13/09 at 5:20pm
seems that subtitles disappears when you use the RW/FF button too often even you try to enable/disable them with options... I have to stop the video and resume it again to make them appear.
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post #110 of 415
4/13/09 at 5:35pm
Also, the letters in subtitles are kinda far from each other :/


like: H e l l o - I ' a m - a - d u c k


should be: Hello I'am a duck

but the black outline is already far better
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post #111 of 415
4/13/09 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by GuyWD
Other than the fix for the last subtitle not being displayed, subtitles are unchanged in this firmware.

we're working on it.


Regarding subtitles, please don't forget these things:


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*BUG* Subtitles disappear, when the "displace image" function (changing screen position) OR the "zoom" feature is used during video playback with activated subtitles.

*BUG* Subtitles suddenly stop being displayed approx. 10 seconds before the end of the video file is reached.

*BUG* When you resume viewing a video file it is not resuming using the same subtitle (and audio track) it was being viewed before.

*BUG* Subtitles disappear when you REVerse/FastForward too frequently.


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Subtitle requests

  • The ability to alter the vertical position of subtitles using short intervals,
    to move them higher or lower on screen.
    Possible way: The UP and DOWN cursor buttons on the remote could be used when the "subtitle" icon in the "OPTION" menu is highlighted by the user during video playback. The last chosen position should by stored into the WD TV into its brain.
  • A new selectable option in the settings menu: "subtitle outline thickness" with ~5 different values to make subtitles better readable ...
    ... where 0 stands for "no outline", 1 "as it is in the current 1.02.04 firmware", 2 "a little bit thicker than 1", 3 "a little bit thicker than 2" ...
  • A new selectable option in the settings menu: "subtitle color".
    Requested colors: white, yellow, dark yellow, transparent white, grey and black. (more possible)
  • A new selectable option in the settings menu: "subtitle outline color": black, white and yellow. (more possbile)


Taken from here:
The (inofficial) Western Digital "WD TV" bug list & feature request thread
 (four months old!)




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Two brand new subtitle requests by the community:
  • A new selectable option in the settings menu: "Auto load external subtitles?": On or OFF.
  • A new selectable option in the settings menu: "Auto load embedded subtitles?": On or OFF.
    Important note: The WD TV should select the embedded subtitle track which is marked as "default" first. (default track flag)
    Important note 2: Subtitle handling of DVD-VIDEOs should not be affected by this setting. (That's a different story)



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24Hz works fine now.

Are you guys REALLY sure???


What about the following *BUG*? ->>


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  • In "1080p 24Hz" display resolution mode, 23.976 fps video files (e.g. .M2TS) suffer a really short stuttering/juddering (exactly 1 frame to be exact ) in a 40-seconds cycle. (this is not the other 24p .MKV bug)
    This juddering in a 40-seconds-cycle usually occurs, if the device outputs fixed 24.000 fps whereas it should output 23.976 fps. (24 Hz is not the same as 23.976 Hz)
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post #112 of 415
4/13/09 at 6:02pm
I advice everybody that have problems with WDTV recognizing their drive to first delete the .wd_tv folder and restart the wdtv (disconnect from power).

As for playback problems (choppy playback and loss of sound) with large ~25GB blu-ray rips. The wdtv may have problems with disk reading speed over usb. You should try using faster file system, ntfs with 64kb clusters, fat32 (with bigger files cut to smaller parts) or ext2.

And my thoughts about current firmware:
- srt subs now fully works to the end of movie
- vobsub idx/sub still doesn't show last subtitle but now have nice black outline around letters

So, looks like THE firmware to keep
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post #113 of 415
4/13/09 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by oldskoolluva View Post

I have plenty parent folders with subfolders and all the thumbnails display fine.....I found that whatever .jpg you want to use for folders and sub-folders should be in the corresponding folder and named "folder" with lower case letters....I was originally naming them "Folder" and they wouldn't show, when I changed the first letter to lower case, all my folder .jpgs appeared, including parents and subs......

I have had no problems with thumbnails with different names than the folder. But all my parent folders have a jpg named "folder.jpg". My hd is arranged as follows:

Animation (folder)
- Movie name - Year.Release (sub-folder)
- Movie name - Year.avi
- Movie name - Year.jpg
- Movie name - Year.srt
- folder.jpg
Movies
Movies HD
TV Shows
folder.jpg (I want to have my hd associated with a thumb on the folder view. dunno if it's possible or not, is it?)

Did your parent folders displayed thumbs on the 1.02.03 firmware?
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post #114 of 415
4/13/09 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by high_definitely View Post

People (cineastes in particular) prefer the 24Hz (23.976Hz rather), because that's the native frame rate of movies, a necessity for the authentic 'film look'. If you play them back at 60Hz, they look more like videos, or TV for that matter. That authentic look is lost.

I don't believe any displays actually show video at 24hz but rather an even multiple - usually 72hz. I believe that's the case with my Optoma HD65.

I could be wrong so please correct, but this is my understanding.
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post #115 of 415
4/13/09 at 7:05pm
What I have noticed regarding thumbnails now is that the WD TV seems to only cache a minimal amount of thumbs. If you go over the thumbs have to reload. For example when I go to ALL VIDEO I scroll through and load all thumbnails. Then when I go to MUSIC / FOLDERS. Scroll and load 300 albums with thumbs. Then once I go to ALL VIDEO again the thumbs have to actually "reload" or re-cache them. Doesnt seem to retain them and load fast. Its like I removed the hard drive and it has to re-cache them again. Anyone else notice this? That the thumbs arent being cached with a large number of files?

I guess my question is how many thumbs can the wd tv cache in order for the thumbs to display "fast

Ok. It seems the WD TV is only caching 250-300 (ish) thumbnails (files with thumbnails). Are thumbs being loaded in memory? It seems so. I figure it would go to hard drive, to its own cache file or something.

Kind of annoying with large collections, waiting for thumbnails to initially load. I figure once they load the first time they would stay and not have that 5-7 second delay of loading 10 thumbs on screen
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post #116 of 415
4/13/09 at 7:07pm
So I've done a bit of testing with firmware 1.02.04 and here are some quick notes...
  • 24fps videos seem to be working... mostly. I noticed the odd stutter on a few files but it could be an issue with the file itself rather than the display. I will test some more.
  • Fast-forwarding and rewinding indeed seems to be messed up. For instance, if you fast-forward visually to a spot and press play, it will revert back to a previous point in the video. This was tested on MKVs.
  • I do not like subtitles on by default.
  • As someone else pointed out, menus indeed feel somewhat sluggish at 1080p/24
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post #117 of 415
4/13/09 at 7:53pm
Subtitles are acceptable this time around, at least how they display. I have not tried any any more tests, though. Count me in with having them auto-off, unless that is the limitation of having them work properly or something.
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post #118 of 415
4/13/09 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by lwk View Post

which sort of audio?

DTS.
Another thing in the iso is, that I can't select subtitles.
I'm trying to convert now to a mkv file, and in the selection options I could choose wich subtitles to keep.
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post #119 of 415
4/13/09 at 8:28pm
GuyWD/ScottWD

Tested 1080p with 24fps, AC3 Audio + UTF8 Subtitles
Issues: 1. Subtitles not sync, not even displaying properly.
2. Sound goes after 10Mins of paly
3. Video Shuttering
4. 2x Rev. realy sucks, it's looks like 16x rev.
5. 2x rev then Play then 2x FWD, takes you to aprox 1.5/2 mins ahead.

Media Info
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General
Complete name : F:\\flicks\
efined-inkheart-blu1080p.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 7.95 GiB
Duration : 1h 46mn
Overall bit rate : 10.7 Mbps
Writing application : x264.exe
Writing library : mkv2rls v1.0

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate : 9 655 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 10.1 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.257
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1137 1fda882
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.3 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=10087 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 46mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Title : English AC3 640kbps
Language : English

Text
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : English
Language : English

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post #120 of 415
4/13/09 at 8:32pm
Looks Solved
Scanning of HDD is quite fast now.
Loading time for avi and mkv is also quite acceptable.

Issue

200-300 Folder with Thumbnails, Take Long to load.
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