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post #391 of 476
Appreciate the time very much, I'll check em out!
post #392 of 476
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Originally Posted by yatesd View Post

I think they both represent a good value for what they offer. I bought the HF S100 a two weeks ago, but at the time B&H was throwing in some free goodies. The S100 offers a nicer lens and more manual controls, and should be better in low light since it has the flexibility to shoot 24/30P.

Right about the low light performance, but the HF200 does also have the ability to shoot in 24p and 30p modes.
post #393 of 476
Hi guys, brand new on the forums here and I will be an proud owner of a new Canon camera REALLY soon.
My main concern is still the Low Light performance,
My eye caughtthe S serie of Canon, but I dunno exactly the difference in Low Light between the cams maybe someone can help?

The HF-S100 no memory on the camera, which the HF-S10 and HF-S11 have.
But is there an difference between the S100 and the S10/S11 with Low Light Performance?
Hope anybody can help
post #394 of 476
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Originally Posted by dannycnl View Post

The HF-S100 no memory on the camera, which the HF-S10 and HF-S11 have.
But is there an difference between the S100 and the S10/S11 with Low Light Performance?
Hope anybody can help

Congratulations on your new camcorder!

No difference in functionality other than the standard memory. Please keep in mind this camcorder still does better than average in low light, just not the best in the prosumer category. In addition, most tests were performed at 60i while the Canon does much better at 24/30p. Most camcorders don't even have this option.
post #395 of 476
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Originally Posted by yatesd View Post

Congratulations on your new camcorder!

No difference in functionality other than the standard memory. Please keep in mind this camcorder still does better than average in low light, just not the best in the prosumer category. In addition, most tests were performed at 60i while the Canon does much better at 24/30p. Most camcorders don't even have this option.

Thanks for your reply, so which camera is the best to buy if you look at low light performance.

The Canon HF-S100
Or the Canon HF-S10/S11 (because I dont think there is any difference in the low light performance?)
post #396 of 476
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Originally Posted by dannycnl View Post

Thanks for your reply, so which camera is the best to buy if you look at low light performance.

The Canon HF-S100
Or the Canon HF-S10/S11 (because I dont think there is any difference in the low light performance?)

They are exactly the same. Personally I chose the Canon HF-S100 since I believe it offers a better value...especially as memory card prices keep falling.
post #397 of 476
doesnt the HF-S100 performs worse than the HF-S10 and HF-S11?
There is more difference between the last tweo since the HF-S11 has an better OS.
But as far as camcorderinfo states the performance in low light is better with the HF-S10
post #398 of 476
anyone using a wireless mic or two with their HF-S100 setup? how would you set this up?
post #399 of 476
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Originally Posted by yatesd View Post

I would also make sure you don't have the x.v. color setting turned on. Toggle on/off and see if that makes a difference.

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Originally Posted by olo567 View Post

Are the samples you were looking at in original format or converted? Somtimes the H.264 (AVCHD) codec used on the computer will make the colors look less vibrant, but they can usually be adjusted. If it looks correct on the LCD, it's probably okay. Try connecting to a TV (HDTV if available) and see how the colors look then.

Thanks for the suggestion. I did hook it up directly to my HDTV and the pictures look fine on it. The files on my computer that I look at were downloaded from the camcorder using Pixela, and I view them using the Pixela viewer also. Do you think it's the codec with Pixela? What other software could I use to try viewing the files?

I also verified that I don't have the x.v. color setting turned on.
post #400 of 476
Hello,

I am interested in upgrading from SD to a HD camcorder and specifically looking at a HF S10. I currently have a Canon FS 11 which is one of Canon's premium SD camcorders and I am fairly happy with it's performance. I will specifically be using the camcorder for one of two things. I am a rail-fan and will be shooting trains passing by at a generally high rate of speed or from inside an Amtrak car looking out filming while traveling at speed. Here are two random examples from youtube of the type of filming I will be doing (I know neither of these people and just randomly found these clips as examples):

Filming train passing by at speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0EAUPNNLE

Filming out the window while train is moving at speed:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tigerhol...96/_Nyn-IAnUVk

I will only be using this footage for personal use on my own personal computer which is a brand new Dell XPS 8000 with i7 core processor and 8GB of RAM and a 2GB video card. I will not be burning the footage to DVD or watching on my HDTV at home.

With that being said, what kind of performance can I expect from the S10 using a shutter priority at 1000 or maybe even 2000? I will not be using the camcorder in the dark, but maybe towards the evening as the sun is starting to set. Will I be able to capture the high speed motion where it is a clear picture or will I have to deal with motion trailing blur with the CMOS system? I have searched for video clips filmed on the S10 that replicate this type of use situation, but most clips I have found do not have high speed motion in them.

Please share your opinion if you think I should stick with my SD FS11 which gets the job done ok for my needs, or if I will notice a substantial increase in Picture Quality in fast moving scenes moving up to the S10.

Thanks!
post #401 of 476
Does anyone know if a Sony VCLHG0758 High Performance Wide Conversion Lens x0.7 for 58mm diameter lens would work OK on our cams?

I can get a good deal on one, as the Canon WD-H58 is out of my price range at this point.

Perhaps I do not even need wide angle... our first baby is due next month, and we are looking for the bare minimum accessories for now.

Short list was:
mic (leaning towards DM-100)
UV lens filter (not sure which one yet)

Any pointers or good reads appreciated!
Thanks!
post #402 of 476
w00 h00 my HFS10 shipped! I was worried my order was going to get canceled! A-zon for six niner niner w/ free extra battery!

Is there a good wiki for these cams regarding accessories and best bang for buck filters etc? I will continue to search/read, but if people would continue to post what they have if they recommend it.
post #403 of 476
Just received my S10 and recorded my first scenes today. Not real happy at the moment as my fears have been realized. I shot a moving train coming towards me at about 30mph. I used the TV shutter priority mode set to 1000 and recorded in 60i at the highest quality setting. I had considerable motion blur and all the lettering on the side of the cars is blurred. Is this inherent with the CMOS technology or can I use a different setting to eliminate this? I know it is not the same thing, but with my Nikon D90, I just move up the shutter speed to 500 or 640 and the pictures are perfect with no blur.

Any help would be appreciated in getting a clearer picture. Thanks!


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Originally Posted by LineBrawl View Post

Hello,

I am interested in upgrading from SD to a HD camcorder and specifically looking at a HF S10. I currently have a Canon FS 11 which is one of Canon's premium SD camcorders and I am fairly happy with it's performance. I will specifically be using the camcorder for one of two things. I am a rail-fan and will be shooting trains passing by at a generally high rate of speed or from inside an Amtrak car looking out filming while traveling at speed. Here are two random examples from youtube of the type of filming I will be doing (I know neither of these people and just randomly found these clips as examples):

Filming train passing by at speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0EAUPNNLE

Filming out the window while train is moving at speed:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tigerhol...96/_Nyn-IAnUVk

I will only be using this footage for personal use on my own personal computer which is a brand new Dell XPS 8000 with i7 core processor and 8GB of RAM and a 2GB video card. I will not be burning the footage to DVD or watching on my HDTV at home.

With that being said, what kind of performance can I expect from the S10 using a shutter priority at 1000 or maybe even 2000? I will not be using the camcorder in the dark, but maybe towards the evening as the sun is starting to set. Will I be able to capture the high speed motion where it is a clear picture or will I have to deal with motion trailing blur with the CMOS system? I have searched for video clips filmed on the S10 that replicate this type of use situation, but most clips I have found do not have high speed motion in them.

Please share your opinion if you think I should stick with my SD FS11 which gets the job done ok for my needs, or if I will notice a substantial increase in Picture Quality in fast moving scenes moving up to the S10.

Thanks!
post #404 of 476
Heres a review of HF S11 vs HF S21 new for 2010... Essentially the same

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...Comparison.htm
post #405 of 476
Hey, I also found that the Pixela ImageMixer 3 was not user friendly and I have Premiere Elements on my PC but ImageMixer only exports video files in 720X480 MPEG-2 which is considerably less in quality than the original videos.

Q: How can I get the video files directly off the hf s10 without using the Pixela software and onto my hardrive so I can use them in Premiere Elements.

I think I'm just missing something but I couldn't access the hard drive of the camcorder where the video files were so I could just copy paste, though I could access the stills.
post #406 of 476
I just purchased a HFS10. Does anyone know if it is possible to set it up on my computer like a webcam, so that I can use it with something like Ustream?
post #407 of 476
Sick prices on Dell for these cameras today... lowest i've seen
post #408 of 476
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Originally Posted by tunaman4u2 View Post

Sick prices on Dell for these cameras today... lowest i've seen

http://tr.im/O2Ou

Dell has the Canon VIXIA HF S100 for cheaper than I've ever seen.
post #409 of 476
Just got a HF-S10 and was wondering what should I set all the settings to for best picture quality. Forgive me if this is a stupid question but I am new to the camcorder world. I had a flip mino before this so this is quite a different animal. I will be using this with a MacBook Pro if this makes any difference. I shot a small clip after the battery charged and it didnt look as good as I thought it would. Maybe because it was indoors and dusk/night?? Hopefully I made the right choice between the HF-S10 and the HV-40 I was considering. :/
post #410 of 476
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Originally Posted by CaliMarley View Post

Just got a HF-S10 and was wondering what should I set all the settings to for best picture quality. Forgive me if this is a stupid question but I am new to the camcorder world. I had a flip mino before this so this is quite a different animal. I will be using this with a MacBook Pro if this makes any difference. I shot a small clip after the battery charged and it didnt look as good as I thought it would. Maybe because it was indoors and dusk/night?? Hopefully I made the right choice between the HF-S10 and the HV-40 I was considering. :/

Good point.

Has anyone came across, or even set up a page somewhere that gives the lowdown on all the HFS10/100's settings to get best quality for different situations?

I'm a relatively newbie, so I'd love to hear from advanced users on this.
post #411 of 476
If you were going to film at this venue what settings would you use with hfs100? Will probably mostly be hand-held from one location, not moving around or zooming in. There will probably be a separate sound recording. Not sure if I can put a link to youtube here but if you search "mandy lauderdale lamberts" it should be the first one. Fast reply would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
post #412 of 476
Hi there!

I was wondering, is there a way I could take a shot from my camera and then edit it and then put it back onto my camera?

Thanks.
post #413 of 476
Btw, it's a HF S 100.
post #414 of 476
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Originally Posted by tunaman4u2 View Post

Sick prices on Dell for these cameras today... lowest i've seen

There is at least 10 shops selling HF S100 for 699$ now including amazon/J & R etc

I think price will drop to 499$ when HF S200/SD700 actually arrive
Panasonic msrp for SD700 is 899$ (So amazon will properly sell it for 799$)
post #415 of 476
I was originally going to buy the Canon HF200 for $499, then I saw that I could get the HFS100 for $699.

I wanted your guys opinion if you feel there is a big difference only having the 10 X vs the 15 X the HF200 has?

What are teh benefits you see in having teh HFS100 vs the HF200? Thanks
post #416 of 476
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Originally Posted by bjbjordan View Post

I was originally going to buy the Canon HF200 for $499, then I saw that I could get the HFS100 for $699.

I wanted your guys opinion if you feel there is a big difference only having the 10 X vs the 15 X the HF200 has?

What are teh benefits you see in having teh HFS100 vs the HF200? Thanks

HFS100 is superior in every way, the only advantage of HF200 is being smaller camcorder

And trust me the 10x-15x zoom is awful unless you use a tripod (The longer you zoom the more blurry/shaky your video will be) and Canon having one of the worst stabilization doesn't help at all

You be the judge
Sony stabilization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAGxi...layer_embedded
Canon stabilization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRNL...layer_embedded

10x Zoom is more than what you will ever need and there is digital zoom available when needed (Acceptable till you reach 22-25x Zoom)
post #417 of 476
This is a double post. Sorry about that but I thought I originally posted in the "Official HFS" section.

I usually get frustrated with these kinds on posts when I see them in my areas of expertise (computers/displays/motorcycles) but after days of researching I'm still not sure what is what as far as formats/exporting/editing and everything else. Enough of the anti-flaming clause.

I have a CanonHFS10 camera and I want to make movies of my daughter, wife and hobbies. Right now I have to use the junk ImageMixer3 software that came with the camera to get the video from the camera to the computer. Since IM3 crashes every 2 minutes I export the video to an MPG-2 file so I can work with Microsoft Movie Maker and I have been having success with the microsoft program adding stills,audio and video to make some ok movies.

The problems:

when I export the videos are only 720x480

I feel like I have to do twice the work (pulling video from cam, then convert to edit)

What format does my camera encode. The videos show .mts as an extension. I thought this thing shot in AVCHD or is that just what it can convert to?

The Fix?

Could Sony Vegas 9 or some other software allow me to pull video from the camera and edit from there bypassing ImageMixer3.

I read the SVega9.0 specs and it shows both .mts and AVCHD as exceptable formats but don't know if the IM3 is still needed by the Canon!

Thanks!
post #418 of 476
Is there anyone who can upload a raw .mts movie (in mxp mode if possible). I saw some (low-light) movies of the HF200 and those were terrible.
post #419 of 476
Should have a new Canon HFS100 on my doorstep when I get home today. It will be used for filmimg 2 year old daughter, and 2 boys 6 & 9 mainly outdoor sports (other than basketball).

Any advice on good settings for:

-Low Light (nightime family room recessed lighting)

-Outdoor Sports (spring/summer/fall)

Thanks in advance look forward to any advice.
post #420 of 476
What video software do most recommend to use with the Canon HFS100? It seems like Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 is the most popular. Right now I can find Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 pro pack at a really good price. Would you say jump on this or consider something else?
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