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post #421 of 476
3/3/10 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by budven View Post

What video software do most recommend to use with the Canon HFS100? It seems like Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 is the most popular. Right now I can find Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 pro pack at a really good price. Would you say jump on this or consider something else?

I have downloaded the trial version and am happy with it. It is a pretty intense program, really more than what I was looking for but it works for the AVCHD. If you don't mind me asking, where and what is the price, I may jump on it too. If you don't want to post it, just PM me, thanks.
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post #422 of 476
3/4/10 at 6:05am
Amazon has Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 Platinum Pro Pack right now for $64.99 with free shipping. That seems to be an excellent price.
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post #423 of 476
3/5/10 at 10:58am
Canon just released this and the marketing documentation says that it works with all Vixia HF S series camcorders.

But if you go to the actual Canon webpage for the microphone and click on compatible devices it only lists the new Vixia HFS20 models as compatible (and the new M series camcorders).

Anyone know if the HFS 10/100 is compatible?
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post #424 of 476
3/9/10 at 9:16am
I just got the HFS100 through Amazon, and have not had any time to really play w/ it yet.

I will be filming my 6 year old in his Kindergarten Musical tonight.

Any recommendations on seetings for filming in a dim lit auditorium?

Thanks in advance!!!!!

BJ
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post #425 of 476
3/9/10 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by bjbjordan View Post

I just got the HFS100 through Amazon, and have not had any time to really play w/ it yet.

I will be filming my 6 year old in his Kindergarten Musical tonight.

Any recommendations on seetings for filming in a dim lit auditorium?

Thanks in advance!!!!!

BJ

30p - Cinema mode.
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post #426 of 476
3/9/10 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by the_Skywise View Post

30p - Cinema mode.

Thanks for responding to that quickly!

What about in a hospital?

First child, wife being induced tonight. Charging batteries and not had time to learn yet either!
Thanks!
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post #427 of 476
3/9/10 at 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by Prodeje79 View Post

Thanks for responding to that quickly!

What about in a hospital?

First child, wife being induced tonight. Charging batteries and not had time to learn yet either!
Thanks!

Probably the same. Although I might just use the "indoor" setting and make sure you have the white balance set for fluorescent lighting. (which is what most hospital rooms use).
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post #428 of 476
3/10/10 at 10:46pm
Hello All,

I just wanted to share...

Accessories:
Cavision LH-80 Rubber Lens Hood [Modified to fit snug on WD-H58]
Canon WD-H58 Wide Angle Lens
Hoya 58mm UV Multi Coated Glass Filter
Canon BP-827 Battery
Canon 2.7-Inch LCD Hood
Canon RA-V1 Remote Control Adapter
Manfrotto 585LNC Modosteady Remote Control [Modified to mount to tripod]
Rode VideoMic
Rode VXLR
JuicedLink CX211
Sima Quick Connect adaptor
Sima SL-20LX Ultra Bright Video Light (2)
LumiQuest ProMax Mini SoftBox (2)
Adorama Heavy Duty L-bracket (2)
Ravelli AVTP 75mm Tripod w/ Fluid Drag Head
Ravelli ATD Tripod Dolly

Sony Movie Studio Platinum 9 Pro Pack
NewBluFX Video Essentials, Essentials II, Essentials III

I welcome your comments and feedback...




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post #429 of 476
3/11/10 at 9:09am
How does the new microphone sound make it onto the video? And is it just 2-channel still?
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post #430 of 476
3/11/10 at 9:43am
Hi AbMagFab,

The sound is patched into the camera via the 1/8" plug on the strap-side which is used to connect external mics. So, the audio path is: VideoMic, VXLR adaptor, JuicedLink pre-amp, and finally into camera via the external mic input.

Using the VXLR adaptor converts the TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) to XLR allowing the "stereo" signal to pass into the pre-amp. The input channel on the JuicedLink is set to "Center" pan which maintains the "stereo" signal. The CX211 is a 2-channel pre-amp and each can be set to pan either Left, Right, or Center. I currently only use 1 channel and plan to use the 2nd channel for a wireless mic - which at that point, i'll pan each channel separately hard left & right so that I can easily balance the mix in post. The JuicedLink has a single output as "stereo", 1/8".

So currently, with channel 1 set to Center pan, I get a "stereo" signal into the camera.

[Note: I say "stereo" with quotes because I believe the Rode VideoMic is actually a mono-directional microphone which is wired to output on a TRS... The Rode Stereo Mic is a real "stereo" microphone... (I'm not an expert on this so please double check the info at the Rode site.)]

I hope this helps!
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post #431 of 476
3/13/10 at 7:05am
haven't logged onto avs forum in some millennia ... i just bought an HF S10, and have some basic questions. i admit i didn't read thru the entirety of this thread because it's lengthy, sorry about that ...

i bought this camcorder as my first camcorder, and also because my wife is expecting soon, so what better gadget to get at this time ...

anyway, it does 2 formats of HD video i believe, i want to be able to take recordings made in HD formats, and put them on blu-ray discs that can be played back on standard blu-ray players ... i looked thru the documentation and software that came with the camera, but i don't think it has the tools to do this ....

i have a blu-ray burner on my laptop, so i would assume that hooking the camera up via USB and transferring the video to software that will convert it to the correct format to burn onto a BD disc is what i want to do.

can anyone point me in the right direction on what authoring software will work well for this ?

EDIT:
sorry for my ignorance ... i looked into the specs of the software included and it authors blu-rays, so i think i am good to go ... i was wondering, if i have an SDHC card in the camcorder, would i be able to create recordings on the built-in memory, pause, then continue recordings onto the memory card ? i guess what i would like to do would be to increase the movie capacity from 32GB to maybe 48 or 64 ....
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post #432 of 476
3/13/10 at 8:39am
will sony's pmb software work with the canon hfs 10...when you plug the camcorder into your computer is there a button that transfers the files to the software... Ism asking because I just bought a Sony cx550 and might return it because the auto white ballance doesn't adjust fast enough from going outside to inside
but I like the sony pmb software because with the software you can burn a avchd DVD...can the cannon software do this to?
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post #433 of 476
3/13/10 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by AmCamMan View Post

Hello All,

I just wanted to share...

Accessories:
Cavision LH-80 Rubber Lens Hood [Modified to fit snug on WD-H58]
Canon WD-H58 Wide Angle Lens
Hoya 58mm UV Multi Coated Glass Filter
Canon BP-827 Battery
Canon 2.7-Inch LCD Hood
Canon RA-V1 Remote Control Adapter
Manfrotto 585LNC Modosteady Remote Control [Modified to mount to tripod]
Rode VideoMic
Rode VXLR
JuicedLink CX211
Sima Quick Connect adaptor
Sima SL-20LX Ultra Bright Video Light (2)
LumiQuest ProMax Mini SoftBox (2)
Adorama Heavy Duty L-bracket (2)
Ravelli AVTP 75mm Tripod w/ Fluid Drag Head
Ravelli ATD Tripod Dolly

Sony Movie Studio Platinum 9 Pro Pack
NewBluFX Video Essentials, Essentials II, Essentials III

I welcome your comments and feedback...




Greetings

I am looking to get some accessories for my camera hf s10. We are shooting KrazyCanadian Adventures 3 this year which is a snowmobile film featuring mountain riding at it's finest.

I just ordered a lcd hood. Bright light seems to be an issue when filming and makes it hard to see the viewer.

I'm considering a telephoto lens but am afraid of the cheap ones on ebay... should I be?

I'm also considering a lens hood as well but I don't know if I should go with a round one or a rectangular one?

I assume a lcd protector is a good idea...

Any suggestions on any of these accessories and where to get them which would be suited for snow conditions?


I've read alot about 60i 30P and 24P I have only recorded in 30P which I thought would be the best for the sports and slow motion playback and pulling still's.....

after reading 15 pages I have to wonder if shooting the 60i will be better for my application?

I have found that alot of the modes are not much better than the automatic mode P.... I am keen on setting up the TV mode and using the dial to controll aperature since it sounds like a good way to record.... Snow mode is excellent but vivid and cinema seem to ruin that feature.... Anybody care to comment on this opposed to auto ?


Are Canon accessories the only ones to use or are there some other quality alternatives out there?

Can I use any 58mm threaded accessorie?



T.I.A.
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post #434 of 476
3/22/10 at 1:38am
I'm having a weird issue where for any camera stills I can see the thumbnail but trying to view the actual photograph on the viewfinder results in a "this photo cannot be displayed" with five blue squares displayed on the screen. Downloading to the pc results in corrupt jpegs. Videos are recording just fine the issue is only with with camera stills. I've tried reinitializing the card (quick and complete) multiple times as well as using other cards. The cards are transcend 32gb and 16gb class 6. Anyone seen this issue before and know if there is a fix or just an issue with the camera itself. google yields nothing.

Update
This turned out to be an issue with the hardware itself I ended up sending the camera back to canon and they repaired and sent it back.
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post #435 of 476
3/22/10 at 10:23am
Hi All,

TIA for any answers I get.

#1 - I shot a clip the other day and when I pulled the footage off of the camera, the file was split in two. On file was the name I am used to seeing and one file was the same file name with the added _1 at the end of it.

When I went to add the two items to the video timeline, there was a split second gap and I am wondering if others have had this happen, if it is something normal, and how I can NOT let this happen in the future??

#2 - Is time lapse a possibility with the HF S100? Are there settings I can play with to get a time lapse feeling or only in the video editing software? I am using Premiere Pro CS4 but even with that, I do not know how to do it...

#3 - Wide Angle lens - I am looking at purchasing the Raynox HD-7000 Pro 58mm 0.7x High Quality Wide Angle Converter Lens for the HF S100. Are there any people here who use this lens and can recommend it??

Thanks,

Ore
you can see some of my vids on my site www dot potentialgold dot com
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post #436 of 476
3/23/10 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by Ore View Post

Hi All,

TIA for any answers I get.

#1 - I shot a clip the other day and when I pulled the footage off of the camera, the file was split in two. On file was the name I am used to seeing and one file was the same file name with the added _1 at the end of it.

When I went to add the two items to the video timeline, there was a split second gap and I am wondering if others have had this happen, if it is something normal, and how I can NOT let this happen in the future??

#2 - Is time lapse a possibility with the HF S100? Are there settings I can play with to get a time lapse feeling or only in the video editing software? I am using Premiere Pro CS4 but even with that, I do not know how to do it...

Thanks,

Ore
you can see some of my vids on my site www dot potentialgold dot com

If you install the Pixela software that came with the camera and use it to download the videos you will be able to join the files. Then you can place the long, uninterupted file in the timeline of your editor. That is what I do.
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post #437 of 476
3/23/10 at 9:17am
"after reading 15 pages I have to wonder if shooting the 60i will be better for my application?

I have found that alot of the modes are not much better than the automatic mode P.... I am keen on setting up the TV mode and using the dial to controll aperature since it sounds like a good way to record.... Snow mode is excellent but vivid and cinema seem to ruin that feature.... Anybody care to comment on this opposed to auto ?"

Shooting action at 60i is perfectly fine. Look at this (hockey) video of very fast action and fast panning and zooming, shot at 60i and also think of the NBC broadcasts of the olympics, shot at 60i.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU95lNvgLQo
(choose 1080p)

You want to fix the shutter speed; the ideal is 1/60th of a second for 60i. You then can control exposure manually using the viewfinder. Too fast a shutter speed results in strobing-like video. The hockey action video was shot at 1/60th of a second. You do not see annoying blurring or interlacing artifacts.
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post #438 of 476
4/19/10 at 11:29pm
This might have been covered somewhere but i started to get a headache looking for it

How do you encode it videos and not get this choppy result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNiunblbLnw

i have a canon hf s100. i use adobe premier. i shoot in MXP @ 24p and i set the premier project at 1080 24p. i use the export encoder and this is what i get

I really dont get it... its sooo choppy.

do only thing i dont do is, i remove the sd card and pull the stream from there instead of pulling from the camera via cable.. could that be the problem????

any help would be super appreciated. thanks.
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post #439 of 476
5/11/10 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Prodeje79 View Post

Thanks for responding to that quickly!

What about in a hospital?

First child, wife being induced tonight. Charging batteries and not had time to learn yet either!
Thanks!

I have a good amount of new baby recordings on my HFS10 built-in memory.
I cannot seem to get my compuer to see them.
I have WIndows 7 64bit, connected to rear USB connection. It shows the camera as a device, but I cannot see the built in memory. The Pixela transfer wants to look at the empty SD card slot. Sony Vegas 9 does not see anything either.

What am I missing?

I desperately want to back up the video on my PC.

I think I may attempt to connect it to my work laptop running XP pro 32bit to see if it is an OS issue.

Any help appreciated.

EDIT: Dang, it mounted and copied fine to my work laptop 32bit xp pro. Must be the Windows 7 64bit I guess?
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post #440 of 476
5/11/10 at 5:18pm
I had an older card reader that apparently didn't like the newer cards and the computer wouldn't see them. I replaced the card reader with a newer one and the card read fine.
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post #441 of 476
5/13/10 at 5:59pm
Hi all I just received my HF S100 and have a few questions.
I tried to search for the answers but couldn't find them


Question 1: Class 10 SDHC Cards are not fully supported, is there a fix or do I have to return my card?


Question 2: Can I livefeed my HF S100 to my Mac, with livefeed I mean, connect it to my laptop and let it be recognized as a Webcam so I can capture screens directly on my Macbook pro.


Question 3: What are the settings you usually film with INDOOR and OUTDOOR?


Question 4: Is a UV Hoya filter (58mm Ultraviolet UV) useful or shouldn't I bother?

Thanks! And I hope some people can answer question1 and 2 for sure since I can't find a clear answer.
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post #442 of 476
5/14/10 at 12:22pm
I can only help with question 4. It appears perhaps one of my posts was edited because it linked to another forum. I'll just post the meat here.
I ended up just going clear with the nice coating on it though.

Lens (leave on perm to protect lens)
UV option B+W 58MM CLEAR UV HAZE MRC (010M) 66-070222 B+W 58MM CLEAR UV HAZE MRC (010M) 66-070222
Clear option B+W 66-1001700 58MM CLEAR MRC (007M) B+W 66-1001700 58MM CLEAR MRC (007M)

Case
Lowepro Rezo 140 AW Camera Bag
Lowepro Rezo 140 AW Camera Bag

Lens Cap
Zeikos ZE-LC58 58mm Plastic Snap On Lens Cap (Black)
Zeikos ZE-LC58 58mm Plastic Snap On Lens Cap (Black)

Tripod (wow price has gone up $12)
Manfrotto 785 Modo Maxi Photo Video Grip Head Tripod
Manfrotto 785 Modo Maxi Photo Video Grip Head Tripod



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Originally Posted by BlackZ View Post

Hi all I just received my HF S100 and have a few questions.
I tried to search for the answers but couldn't find them


Question 1: Class 10 SDHC Cards are not fully supported, is there a fix or do I have to return my card?


Question 2: Can I livefeed my HF S100 to my Mac, with livefeed I mean, connect it to my laptop and let it be recognized as a Webcam so I can capture screens directly on my Macbook pro.


Question 3: What are the settings you usually film with INDOOR and OUTDOOR?


Question 4: Is a UV Hoya filter (58mm Ultraviolet UV) useful or shouldn't I bother?

Thanks! And I hope some people can answer question1 and 2 for sure since I can't find a clear answer.
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post #443 of 476
5/23/10 at 4:40pm
So what cards are you guys/gals useing with the HF S100? I was told to use ONLY Sandisk class 4-6. I'm sure others can be used just looking for cards that have been tested from you all. I know I can get NON OEM batteries but get a icon in the battery window which does not tell you battery time left.

Thanks in advance.
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post #444 of 476
6/7/10 at 9:36pm
I need some advice on choosing between an S10 and an M31.

My wife will be the main user of the camera, mostly to take video of the kids. We may occasionally use photo functionality of the camcorder, but I have a good camera and she has a Canon P&S, so unless the latter breaks, we'll mostly be taking clips of birthday parties and shows and stuff.

Here's the dilemma. The M31 is a good middle range camera. It is going to have mediocre low-light quality, but it takes HD video, so it will be fine for normal party-type uses. It should be easy to use, compared to the S10. It will be about $645 or so.

There seem to be some leftover S10's out there in the $775 range. I figure it will have significantly better low-light performance, and the still camera is obviously better.

Here's the tradoff, though. According to Camcorderinfo.com, the S10 is NOT easy to use. She is going to want to pick the thing up and after setting the initial settings when we get it (e.g. 17 FPS, that sort of thing), she's not going to make ANY changes to ANY manual functions EVER. I mean it. So since she's using it, it isn't worth trying to support spending an extra $130 unless she'll really benefit from the improvements over the M31 AND won't get frustrated by the usability menus of the S10 the review rants about.

Real world users, picture a novice tech person using the camera you own. Is it easy to use if you don't want to do ANYTHING but pick it up, and push the red button to record? Is it worth $130 to buy the S10 over the M31 if you don't want to use ANY of the manual functions? Or should I stick with the mediocre low light but easier to use M31 and buy an extra memory card or two for the savings?

Thanks!!

HELP!?!?!?!
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post #445 of 476
6/8/10 at 5:43am
I probably recommend starting your own thread outside of this one. Although I would expect most people in this threads own the s10 s100 and might be bias towards it like myself.
my wife uses our S10 fine and she does not mess with any settings.
I did show her the light source options though for outside etc. Otherwise I have my ideal settings locked in.
I got mine below what you say they are going for plus a free battery awhile back before my son was even born. six niner niner no tax free ship amazon.
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Originally Posted by jonandabby View Post

I need some advice on choosing between an S10 and an M31.

My wife will be the main user of the camera, mostly to take video of the kids. We may occasionally use photo functionality of the camcorder, but I have a good camera and she has a Canon P&S, so unless the latter breaks, we'll mostly be taking clips of birthday parties and shows and stuff.

Here's the dilemma. The M31 is a good middle range camera. It is going to have mediocre low-light quality, but it takes HD video, so it will be fine for normal party-type uses. It should be easy to use, compared to the S10. It will be about $645 or so.

There seem to be some leftover S10's out there in the $775 range. I figure it will have significantly better low-light performance, and the still camera is obviously better.

Here's the tradoff, though. According to Camcorderinfo.com, the S10 is NOT easy to use. She is going to want to pick the thing up and after setting the initial settings when we get it (e.g. 17 FPS, that sort of thing), she's not going to make ANY changes to ANY manual functions EVER. I mean it. So since she's using it, it isn't worth trying to support spending an extra $130 unless she'll really benefit from the improvements over the M31 AND won't get frustrated by the usability menus of the S10 the review rants about.

Real world users, picture a novice tech person using the camera you own. Is it easy to use if you don't want to do ANYTHING but pick it up, and push the red button to record? Is it worth $130 to buy the S10 over the M31 if you don't want to use ANY of the manual functions? Or should I stick with the mediocre low light but easier to use M31 and buy an extra memory card or two for the savings?

Thanks!!

HELP!?!?!?!
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post #446 of 476
6/8/10 at 7:40pm
I missed the sweet spot for them as they were being sold off before the S20's were rolled out. But the $775 price is still lots less than the S20 is.
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post #447 of 476
6/8/10 at 10:48pm
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Originally Posted by JagenSteel View Post

I got a prob, the camcorder automaticly split long video into multiple 2gb files. I noticed today when adding those video on premiere to merge them that at the end of each file their a 4 frames gap where theirs no sound at all... As i recorded a concert this is kind of problematic as it make a noticable "bump" in the music... (not too often at least...) any solution?

Is there a solution to this?

I ran into the same problem. I have had my S100 for almost a year, but have never created scenes long enough where the camcorder would create split files (at around 11 minutes 20 seconds). This past weekend, a friend used my S100 to record a family event and created one scene on the camcorder that is about 90 minutes long, which created 7 files that are around 2GB each.

Until now, my scenes were all under 10 minutes (2GB), so I just copied the MTS files off the SD card and imported them into Premiere Pro CS4 projects, no problems.

However, when importing the split scene MTS files into PrPro, the MTS files seem to have trailing "junk", extra frames, dropped frames, missing audio, etc. or leading extra frames. Not consistent across all 7 MTS files. But none of the split files seamlessly align in PrPro.

The kicker is that the 90 minute scene plays perfect in the camcorder. I have reviewed the scene at each point where the files transition, frame by frame, and there are no problems - on the camcorder.

I have tried copying just the MTS files off the SD card, copying with CPI files, and even used the Pixela transfer utility, all with the same problematic results. I am beginning to wonder if the problem is somehow with PrPro in handling these split MTS files.

Any suggestions for software to combine all 7 split MTS files into a single MTS file that I can import into PrPro?
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post #448 of 476
6/9/10 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by Martyus View Post

Is there a solution to this?

I ran into the same problem. I have had my S100 for almost a year, but have never created scenes long enough where the camcorder would create split files (at around 11 minutes 20 seconds). This past weekend, a friend used my S100 to record a family event and created one scene on the camcorder that is about 90 minutes long, which created 7 files that are around 2GB each.

Until now, my scenes were all under 10 minutes (2GB), so I just copied the MTS files off the SD card and imported them into Premiere Pro CS4 projects, no problems.

However, when importing the split scene MTS files into PrPro, the MTS files seem to have trailing "junk", extra frames, dropped frames, missing audio, etc. or leading extra frames. Not consistent across all 7 MTS files. But none of the split files seamlessly align in PrPro.

The kicker is that the 90 minute scene plays perfect in the camcorder. I have reviewed the scene at each point where the files transition, frame by frame, and there are no problems - on the camcorder.

I have tried copying just the MTS files off the SD card, copying with CPI files, and even used the Pixela transfer utility, all with the same problematic results. I am beginning to wonder if the problem is somehow with PrPro in handling these split MTS files.

Any suggestions for software to combine all 7 split MTS files into a single MTS file that I can import into PrPro?

As follow-up to my own post, I found a link to an excellent utility, MTSMerge, on another forum:
http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=161735

I used this application to combine the split MTS files into a single MTS file with no problems at all.
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post #449 of 476
6/18/10 at 11:56am
Could someone show me how to connect both of the Mic (DM-100) and the Flash (VFL-2) to the mini advanced shoe at the same time?

If you can only connect one device to the shoe, what is the work around?

Thanks,
Dustin
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post #450 of 476
6/21/10 at 6:48am
SWEET!!! However, I didn't see any kind of independent recording device with this rig (or did I miss it?)

QUESTION: FYI, I plug a wireless lavalier and/or AKG shotgun mic with XLRs into a little Beachtek breakout box, then put the 1/8" mini-plug into my HFS 100 camera. Although I know how to control the audio levels themselves, I'm wondering if there's any way to turn OFF the compression/limiter on the audio on the HFS 100? I'm getting some heavily "crushed" audio so far, would like to avoid that if possible.

And is it true you can only get "auto" on the audio settings while in 24p Cine Mode? I hope that's not the case...

thanks,

marty
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