Cleveland, OH - HDTV - Page 86

I don't see any new posts here for than a week, so I'm going to dare to go slightly off topic here to keep this forum going.

A little bit of Cleveland area history, I downloaded this Cleveland Press newspaper clipping image a few years back. The muddled date has to be Dec 18, 1947, as Channel 5 went on the air then, and was the area's first TV station. I think the main TV part was missing, but a correct insight on the future of FM (it really took till the 1970's). AM radio dominated at the time, FM was experimental. This is from when radio and TV really served the local community.

Image courtesy of Tim Lones.

I edited and put Mr. Lone's original link in, as he has more goodies on that page. I also re-edited my info here to make it a bit more accurate given Mr. Lone's input, so the quoted part in his post was my original post.

http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspo...ht-before.html

Danny:
That particular image was taken from my Cleveland Classic Media Blog dated February 20, 2008. Here's a link to it..

http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspo...ht-before.html

It was from the Cleveland Press, and you are right about the date (December 18, 1947). The article was part of a huge multi-page section on the Introduction of TV, specifically WEWS, to Cleveland. If I can ever find a way to get a copy of the entire section. I'd like to do that.

Good stuff guys

Thanks much Tim, I knew I got it on a forum somewhere, all the credit goes to you, and I edited my original post to give you credit and your link, and change the info to The Cleveland Press, now I see it was the press on re-read, LOL. I'm glad the edit button doesn't disappear here as quick as it does on some other forums, like the Radio Info board which I also shared, but corrected with another post. Again thanks for the interesting read, that I thought was cool and re-share.

Danny:
I'm not that particular about credit, really, it just looked familiar..Thank you though..The idea was to spotlight December 16, 1947 as the last day Cleveland was a "Radio Only" city..

Here's the blog home page:

http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspot.com/

I think my Sony is finally biting the dust, it goes off now several times an evening to the point of annoying... about a 10-15 minute pause to wait for a picture again. Sometimes during a movie when there is a drastic picture change, I'll lose the picture too.

I was offered one of the following 27" CRT TV's:

RCA - F27442 (Mfg date 5/2002 - Mexico)
or
Magnavox (Philps) MS2730 C221 (Mfg date 7/2001 - Mexico).. Has Philips moulded in the rear of the case on back, Magnavox branded on the front so assume this was before Funai purchased the name.

The Magnavox has more milage on it (used to babysit a dog during weekdays) & is slightly older, though it has rear video inputs. The RCA only has front inputs - is slightly lighter & smaller, & has some feature called SystemLink (??.. has a 3.5mm jack on the back with an IR remote receiver on it).

Surprised at the lack of inputs for their age (thus the drawback for both, especally the RCA's lack of rear input). My Sony is from March 1995 (6-7 years older than both of these), has dual AV inputs, & an S input.

As I see the prices on the LCD's dropping further, I was looking at a couple of VIZIO 42's & the Insignia 42" LED @ Better Buys (Mfg by LG.. eeech!), I just don't feel my need to stimulate the outside economy at this point with no employment prospects in sight. Then again not buying a TV now would be one less thing to relocate (temporarily or permanently) if the worst case should happen.

Any of you familiar with these CRT models I mentioned? I know it's not it's not 'top end' stuff, but gotta be less annoying that the Sony's present state.
I've read the RCA/Thomason had quality issues at some point, & my current Philips 20" has it's quirks too.

The biggest hurdle will be hauling the Sony off. I could have picked up a working 2000 Sony 32" @ Goodwill for $35, though again, no way to pick it up to haul. I expected the Sony to outlast anything (even the current crop of LCD's), The AKB (Auto Kine Bias) keeps shutting the tube off, with no way to bypass it, I'm thinking the 2-3 years I had this stored may had done more harm than good.

16 would interfere with 15 & 17 at that point being in an adjacent market (I would think).

I'm sure WBNX would have something to say about setting up on 29.

So 35 is still broadcasting on analog? & no timetable for lighting up on 16?

Question if I Can Receive WVPX indoors on a two drawer nightstand with a ClearStream 2 Antenna would i be Able to get WEAO with another antenna possibly a homemade one like a Gray Hoverman or maybe a preamp

If WBNX Would have an Issue with WAOH on 29 then WAOH/W35AX Failed to protect their channels but one thing i remember seeing with WIVN is this notice http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/pro...etter_id=28804
and wonder why there was not any type of letter about WAOH/W35AX like the one in that link to WBNX and WOUC or is it that WAOH/W35AX in their current analog form would work if they just went digital with the same service contour

Does WXOX have to be on the air by February 24th Channel 6 http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/pro...etter_id=27876

I would take it that WXOX has to Feb 24th to complete their experiments on 6 to resolve interferance issues on 6 if so exist.... best left for Trip I guess.

I'm taking you mean W35AX flash cuts to digital on 35 with the aproximate power needed to keep the same service contour? BTW what happened to WRAP, & WXOX I actually used to get somewhat of an analog signal out here on 65 & 32, though nothing on 35.

What these guys ought to do is team up, find a open channel, bump up the power a bit & all the SD subs would fit on one channel with better coverage... Like WXOX did with Channel 53 (RF7) very briefly.. now I was able to receive this for a few days until they did something to favor the signal to the south & west... not that I miss these guys, but they seem the need to null up this way.

I would like to get be able to get 16 when it goes digital, I'm pretty much right at the contour edge, & perhaps too close to the lake, the pattern seems to null out the mile or so inland along the lake up here... it will be iffy if putting faith in the contour maps.

I'm assuming all the LP stations are dark except 53 & 35?

i do believe WRAP is going to be on the same tower as Channel 8 and will only go digital and approved once the move to 31 is completed

On 32 digital? I actually forgot their programming, some kind of shopping thing I thought... redundant to WXOX... thus I am not going to miss

Can this feature be disabled if I should happen to get a Wi-Fi set? or if I do not have broadband or a Wi Fi set up it will not affect anything? I won't be receiving cable from the neighbors or such?

This type of set 'broadcast' information to other Wi-Fi Sets?

Most WiFi users set up encryption so if your neighbor's WiFi signal is seen by your WiFi set it is not going to adversely affect your TV unless you know your neighbor's WEP Key.

I can see it now, a whole neighborhood full of wireless devices screwing with each other as the day passes along. My uncle has been setting his up for a couple years now.
JJK

I used to upkeep my departments PC hardware & software & resolved most PC issues where I was working 10-15 years back when Eithernet cards were just starting to become popular.. let alone wireless not being available. After being downsized, I never had too much exposure to all this let alone newer OS, Reason why I asked... Excuse my stupidity... but these things called 'apps' on these devices is just another name for a program, right?


Exactly why I don't want these things in my house. I also feel it's good to be doing your personal bookwork on a PC that is NOT online (such a thing anymore?). I can see about 8-10 different wireless networks from my house, apparently all secure too. I'm sure though one smart enough would just break down the barrier... just because it was there.

Anyways, I take it Wi Fi sets can't have this feature disabled via the internal firmware/software?

Filing taxes online, internet commerece.. yeeech!

On a laptop you can turn off the WiFi receiver. I presume you can do the same on a TV, however I never owned one or have even been around a TV with WiFi to even try the feature out.

Just don't access the WiFi or Apps section of your TV, it will be fine.

WJW Translators were approved on January 18th
Austintown http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws....ion_id=1408797
Canton http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws....ion_id=1408796

Our they on the air yet and when is WJW going back to RF 31?

Thanks

they are not on the air yet and nothing on 31 yet

I checked today and didn't get anything except for rf 21 but that was from Columbus and Detroit.
Thanks for the info.

Isn't Austintown in the Youngstown DMA?

I think WJW is still waiting on the FCC to give their blessing.

yes it is in the Youngstown DMA

Will they still use rf 21 and rf 46 when they go back to rf 31?

I have no idea. I don't work there. Sorry.

UHF 31 should gain move coverage area than VHF 8 did...............

Since 16 (W35AX) would most likely not work in akron in a post i made i just thought hey 28 (WUAB) and 30 (WBNX) means that 29 (WAOH) would most likely not work in akron for the same reasons and i am assuming that to transmit on 16 some new transmit equipment would be needed so i was thinking that 29 (WAOH) would have to move to Cleveland i also thought that WJW could also buy WAOH/W35AX for reasons why a certain station went to lp status (WRAP-LP) and who knows what could occur as far as i know 28 and 30 were not assigned to cleveland with the article from the fcc on the move to 31 for WJW i now see why WAOH 29 Digital has not gotten anywhere i'd really like to see WAOH/W35AX go digital maybe that will happen maybe it's a situation where WBNX and or WUAB help make that happen or WJW this all relates to the WBNX/WJW Channel 31 fued and figured why not put WUAB in the mix

I just got a RadioShack set top antenna and I'm getting everything perfectly...except for CBS (10.1), which I cannot get at all. Maps say I should be able to get it - is this a common problem on the east side?