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post #3871 of 3983
Back in november the FCC did Admonish WBNX over a kidsWB! commercial, i am not sure if they ever responded back
http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=44787
maybe not all is going well at WBNX, between the ThisTV bug and not showing syndicated programs in HD
post #3872 of 3983
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Originally Posted by jxg0754 View Post

Back in november the FCC did Admonish WBNX over a kidsWB! commercial, i am not sure if they ever responded back
http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=44787
maybe not all is going well at WBNX, between the ThisTV bug and not showing syndicated programs in HD
It's very sad when the FCC has to fine individual stations for a violation that was caused by the network. If that's the case, wouldn't Kids WB/The CW be responsible for paying the fines for each affected affiliate? I think it is absolutely ridiculous that a small image and a brief glimpse of the Xiaolin Showdown character would be considered a violation. I mean, how many kids are going to catch that? Sounds like some over-protective parent wanted to be in the news and carefully watched Kids WB for violations.

And these stupid FCC rules are the reason why most OTA networks moved away from children's programming. It is also the reason why broadcasters are required to show those awful E/I certified shows that are very repetitive along with those annoying PSA's. Most kids are going to watch Nick or Disney Channel rather than the FCC's certified E/I programs. Those who don't have cable would rather watch something else.

The violation is probably why WBNX has two E/I bugs on the screen, one from the syndicator and one integrated in their ID. Must be their way of making sure they don't end up in hot water again.
post #3873 of 3983
it has something to do with their license renewal, i do not know what would happen if they ignore it and not acknowledged it how the fcc sees it in the renewal application
post #3874 of 3983

It is only FCC regulations and congressional oversight that are keeping broadcast TV from becoming as wretched as cable TV. Somebody needs to make sure that Fred Flintstone doesn't sell cigarettes to kids and Buffalo Bob and Howdy Doody don't spend the whole show doing pitches for sugary cereals, hard liquor, and contraceptives.

 

The regulations may seem silly, but they were put in place for a reason.

The regulations were (and are) noble attempts to make our society better than our corrupt tendencies.

 

I mean, without federal regulation, just imagine what kind of funny smokes Colorado stations might be advertising right now!

post #3875 of 3983
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Originally Posted by dannykewl View Post

Happy New Year everyone! Too bad the Radio Info/Radio Discussions board has been closed down. I know we talked about WLFM-LP here before, and it is technically a TV station.

Are you aware of Radio Insight? Here's the link to the Cleveland page... http://radioinsight.com/community/board/midwest/cleveland/
post #3876 of 3983
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

It is only FCC regulations and congressional oversight that are keeping broadcast TV from becoming as wretched as cable TV. Somebody needs to make sure that Fred Flintstone doesn't sell cigarettes to kids and Buffalo Bob and Howdy Doody don't spend the whole show doing pitches for sugary cereals, hard liquor, and contraceptives.

The regulations may seem silly, but they were put in place for a reason.
The regulations were (and are) noble attempts to make our society better than our corrupt tendencies.

I mean, without federal regulation, just imagine what kind of funny smokes Colorado stations might be advertising right now!

I wish the mission statement of the FCC were as simple as you explained....being a long time Howard Stern fan/follower I can tell you it's not....
post #3877 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Andrew K View Post

Are you aware of Radio Insight? Here's the link to the Cleveland page... http://radioinsight.com/community/board/midwest/cleveland/

I'm aware now, thanks Andrew! Looks like a good site, I'll have to register on that one. Happy New Year!
post #3878 of 3983
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

It is only FCC regulations and congressional oversight that are keeping broadcast TV from becoming as wretched as cable TV. Somebody needs to make sure that Fred Flintstone doesn't sell cigarettes to kids and Buffalo Bob and Howdy Doody don't spend the whole show doing pitches for sugary cereals, hard liquor, and contraceptives.

The regulations may seem silly, but they were put in place for a reason.
The regulations were (and are) noble attempts to make our society better than our corrupt tendencies.

I mean, without federal regulation, just imagine what kind of funny smokes Colorado stations might be advertising right now!

I wish the mission statement of the FCC were as simple as you explained....being a long time Howard Stern fan/follower I can tell you it's not....

 

I was never too impressed by Stern. He struck me as someone who had talent but often chose to get easy laughs by pushing the envelope rather than doing the hard work required to craft sharper comedy.

To his credit, though, he eventually went over to satellite radio, where he could be more assured that his only listeners would be people who made a deliberate choice to buy what he was selling.

 

That's my beef against the decline of standards and practices departments at the broadcast networks and the basic cable networks. The companies don't seem to realize that many of their viewers are just flipping through the channels, not intending to come across programming that is provocative or violent.

post #3879 of 3983
i have now attempted to contact ThisTV about the bug, i am waiting for a response if i get one
as far as the WBNX Admonish they may not have to respond back to the FCC, if they have any other problems relating to children's programming they will probably be in big trouble
i feel though now they are not really investing in the station, no syndicated programs in HD and the ThisTV Bug, no Time Warner carriage for ThisTV, maybe they are not getting enough retrans fees if any at all and/or enough advertising revenue, as far as network feeds they proably are just set it and forget it
post #3880 of 3983
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Originally Posted by jxg0754 View Post

i have now attempted to contact ThisTV about the bug, i am waiting for a response if i get one
as far as the WBNX Admonish they may not have to respond back to the FCC, if they have any other problems relating to children's programming they will probably be in big trouble
i feel though now they are not really investing in the station, no syndicated programs in HD and the ThisTV Bug, no Time Warner carriage for ThisTV, maybe they are not getting enough retrans fees if any at all and/or enough advertising revenue, as far as network feeds they proably are just set it and forget it

 

I suspect, from the tone of the admonition, that it was a mere formality that requires no written response from the station. It sounds as though the error was mainly the fault of the now-defunct WB network rather than the fault of the station. (But a station is technically responsible for any violation and cannot pass the buck to the network.) As part of the license renewal, the station probably had to disclose any violations that it was aware of. So, the FCC duly noted the violation that occurred way back in 2006 and issued an admonition, which sounds to me like a fancy word for "tsk, tsk, well, just don't let it happen again".

 

It is good for a regulatory agency to remind people of the authority that it technically has, even when it does not plan to take any significant enforcement actions.

post #3881 of 3983
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Originally Posted by jxg0754 View Post

i have now attempted to contact ThisTV about the bug, i am waiting for a response if i get one
as far as the WBNX Admonish they may not have to respond back to the FCC, if they have any other problems relating to children's programming they will probably be in big trouble
i feel though now they are not really investing in the station, no syndicated programs in HD and the ThisTV Bug, no Time Warner carriage for ThisTV, maybe they are not getting enough retrans fees if any at all and/or enough advertising revenue, as far as network feeds they proably are just set it and forget it
IMO, WBNX started to fall apart after the CW affiliation. I don't even watch them anymore and they use to be my favorite in the 90's up until the mid 2000's. I think the CW affiliation did a lot with the syndicated shows, replacing the family themed shows with more adult ones. Even the movies don't impress me anymore, they all contain elements that you wouldn't see on WBNX back when it was an independent station. I think Ernest Angley is trying to recreate WBNX's original independent format on 55.2 since 55.1 got destroyed by The CW. Only time will tell if that subchannel will get more programs.

I too, am waiting for the day when WBNX finally gets the equipment to syndicate in HD. They still need to fix some problems with their picture as you can see digital static in the left sidebar and a blur effect when something moves quickly. I've contacted them about that but never heard back, so I don't know if they know about it or if they just don't care. I also wish they would put a fade in/fade out effect on their bug. So unprofessional seeing it appear/disappear out of nowhere.
post #3882 of 3983
Even WMFD in Mansfield (a very small independent station) has HD Syndication, HD local news, and HD commercials. They've had it for maybe a year now.
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Originally Posted by snowdog 88 View Post

I too, am waiting for the day when WBNX finally gets the equipment to syndicate in HD. .
post #3883 of 3983
WYTV was always rock solid when they went to 1000 watts. Now it's breaks up or I can't receive it at all. I posted it in the Yougstown thread but nobody has replied.....
I am near Steubenville Ohio……………..
post #3884 of 3983
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

WYTV was always rock solid when they went to 1000 watts. Now it's breaks up or I can't receive it at all. I posted it in the Yougstown thread but nobody has replied.....
I am near Steubenville Ohio……………..
Steubenville is on the fringes of WYTV's signal. You'd have to be on top of a mountain with a very good antenna to pick them up. According to rabbitears.tv, It looks like the majority of WYTV's signal is nulled towards the south, so their 1000 kW of power is not being sent in your direction, only to the north east. Coverage map.

Co-channel interference could be your problem as TV signals tend to travel a little bit father during the winter months. It is likely that adjacent RF 35 (WOUC 44) from Cambridge could be creating some interference with WYTV. Can you receive WOUC and if so, are they coming in better than usual?
post #3885 of 3983
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Originally Posted by snowdog 88 View Post

Steubenville is on the fringes of WYTV's signal. You'd have to be on top of a mountain with a very good antenna to pick them up. According to rabbitears.tv, It looks like the majority of WYTV's signal is nulled towards the south, so their 1000 kW of power is not being sent in your direction, only to the north east. Coverage map.

Co-channel interference could be your problem as TV signals tend to travel a little bit father during the winter months. It is likely that adjacent RF 35 (WOUC 44) from Cambridge could be creating some interference with WYTV. Can you receive WOUC and if so, are they coming in better than usual?

Its always been around 70-75 %.............
post #3886 of 3983
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

Its always been around 70-75 %.............
From the looks of that coverage map. any signal you were getting in Stubenville had to have some atmospheric assistance to get down there. Here in Parma I get WKBN almost 24/7 but not the other 2 Y'Town commercial stations (I do get an occasional 45). A look at the coverage map shows a small fragment of signal out my way. Those Longly-Rice maps are very accurate, so if you don't see your area in some color, you are literally out of range.
post #3887 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Michael P 2341 View Post

From the looks of that coverage map. any signal you were getting in Stubenville had to have some atmospheric assistance to get down there. Here in Parma I get WKBN almost 24/7 but not the other 2 Y'Town commercial stations (I do get an occasional 45). A look at the coverage map shows a small fragment of signal out my way. Those Longly-Rice maps are very accurate, so if you don't see your area in some color, you are literally out of range.

When they were at 50 Watts it was hit skip and miss like it is now. When they went to 1000 Watts it was solid. Maybe they reduced their power out-put........
post #3888 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Michael P 2341 View Post

From the looks of that coverage map. any signal you were getting in Stubenville had to have some atmospheric assistance to get down there. Here in Parma I get WKBN almost 24/7 but not the other 2 Y'Town commercial stations (I do get an occasional 45). A look at the coverage map shows a small fragment of signal out my way. Those Longly-Rice maps are very accurate, so if you don't see your area in some color, you are literally out of range.

21 and 27 are around 90-95%
post #3889 of 3983
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

21 and 27 are around 90-95%
That's because those channels are putting out most of their power towards your direction. Coverage area wise, 27 has the most coverage while 33 has the least. Reception wise, all the Youngstown channels would be better received in the Steubenville area if the terrain was flatter and not as hilly.
post #3890 of 3983
I noticed this morning that a slot for the "Get TV" channel has shown up on the Titan TV listings.
Their website says February 3rd.
61.2 still not lit up on converter box.
post #3891 of 3983
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by firemantom26 View Post

When they were at 50 Watts it was hit skip and miss like it is now. When they went to 1000 Watts it was solid. Maybe they reduced their power out-put........

Yesterday I checked the signal levels of the Youngstown stations here in Canton and everything seemed as usual. Chs 21 and 27 were at 100% and 33 was fluctuating between 95-98%. (This is off a fringe antenna atop a 50' tower.) Even though the signals are pretty much at the same level when the antenna is pointed towards Youngstown, I can also receive 21 and 27 almost that well when it is in the Cleveland position. That is not true for 33 which requires a more NE orientation to get the best signal level. I suppose it's a combination of wattage and antenna height. Have you checked to make sure that your antenna position hasn't been moved somewhat by the recent winds? You might also want to make sure the incoming coax isn't having problems. Back a few years ago, I suddenly lost my reception from Steubenville and it turned out to be due to moisture in the coax. Most other channels weren't being affected by the moisture problem.
post #3892 of 3983
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Originally Posted by rluyster View Post

Yesterday I checked the signal levels of the Youngstown stations here in Canton and everything seemed as usual. Chs 21 and 27 were at 100% and 33 was fluctuating between 95-98%. (This is off a fringe antenna atop a 50' tower.) Even though the signals are pretty much at the same level when the antenna is pointed towards Youngstown, I can also receive 21 and 27 almost that well when it is in the Cleveland position. That is not true for 33 which requires a more NE orientation to get the best signal level. I suppose it's a combination of wattage and antenna height. Have you checked to make sure that your antenna position hasn't been moved somewhat by the recent winds? You might also want to make sure the incoming coax isn't having problems. Back a few years ago, I suddenly lost my reception from Steubenville and it turned out to be due to moisture in the coax. Most other channels weren't being affected by the moisture problem.
Not sure what is going on...................
post #3893 of 3983
Hello all:
Last Fall my Terk indoor amplified indoor tv antenna gave out. From 20-24 digital channels I was getting down to 5 or less..I am looking at the Clearstram indoor antennas from Antennas Direct. From where I am in Canton (Southwest end) I can get 17, 23, 27, 39, 45, 47 and 49 with a good amplified antenna. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the Clearstream Indoor or Indoor/Outdoor models...They say their better indoor models go out 35 miles plus..I would love to just get the above channels consistently most of the time..Any other "new" channels will be a bonus. If not the Clearstream models, any other good/very good ones out there?
post #3894 of 3983
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Originally Posted by Tim Lones View Post

Hello all:
Last Fall my Terk indoor amplified indoor tv antenna gave out. From 20-24 digital channels I was getting down to 5 or less..I am looking at the Clearstram indoor antennas from Antennas Direct. From where I am in Canton (Southwest end) I can get 17, 23, 27, 39, 45, 47 and 49 with a good amplified antenna. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the Clearstream Indoor or Indoor/Outdoor models...They say their better indoor models go out 35 miles plus..I would love to just get the above channels consistently most of the time..Any other "new" channels will be a bonus. If not the Clearstream models, any other good/very good ones out there?
I would upgrade to an outdoor UHF/VHF yagi antenna along with an amp if possible. I never liked those panel antennas as they are best used within 10 miles of the transmitter. I'm surprised your indoor antenna worked well for you as you are on the fringes of both the Youngstown and Cleveland market. The Antennacraft HBU33 has been mentioned here several times and is recommended by most of us.
post #3895 of 3983
I would say WYTV. went back to 50 wats to save money. Lol.


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post #3896 of 3983
WQHS 61.2 lit up sometime this afternoon, but my TV's are displaying the channel as .3 (skipping over .2) with no program information or video. The channel label does say GET-TV.
post #3897 of 3983
Looks like the folks at Reserve Square need to take a look at their equipment. Some syndicated shows look like they are running at a frame rate of 18-20 FPS. Some of the shows include Who Wants To Be A Millionaire & The Queen Latifah Show on 19 and The Steve Wilkos Show on 43. I also noticed that infomercials on both channels look like they are slightly zoomed in.
post #3898 of 3983
I wonder what will end up on 61.2 at some point, will it be another english network or maybe UniMas, you never know we could even see 61.4 light up considering the bit rate for the .1 feed according to rabbitears, looks like the station could easily do 3 subchannels
post #3899 of 3983
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Originally Posted by jxg0754 View Post

I wonder what will end up on 61.2 at some point, will it be another english network or maybe UniMas, you never know we could even see 61.4 light up considering the bit rate for the .1 feed according to rabbitears, looks like the station could easily do 3 subchannels
I'm sure it's a configuration error on WQHS' part. They probably don't know what they are doing and now need to contact somebody in order to deactivate .3 and move it over to .2
post #3900 of 3983
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