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post #1 of 591
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Eastern Conference Quarterfinals -- All Times Eastern (* If Necessary)

No. 1 Bruins vs No. 8 Canadiens
April 16 -- 7:00 Game 1: Canadiens @ Bruins
April 18 -- 8:00 Game 2: Canadiens @ Bruins VERSUS
April 20 -- 7:00 Game 3: Bruins @ Canadiens
April 22 -- 7:00 Game 4: Bruins @ Canadiens
April 25* -- 7:00 Game 5: Canadiens @ Bruins
April 27* -- TBD Game 6: Bruins @ Canadiens
April 29* -- TBD Game 7: Canadiens @ Bruins

No. 2 Capitals vs No. 7 Rangers
April 15 -- 7:00 Game 1: Rangers @ Captials
April 18 -- 1:00 Game 2: Rangers @ Captials NBC
April 20 -- 7:00 Game 3: Capitals @ Rangers VERSUS
April 22 -- 7:00 Game 4: Capitals @ Rangers VERSUS
April 24* -- 7:00 Game 5: Rangers @ Captials VERSUS
April 26* -- 2:00 Game 6: Capitals @ Rangers NBC
April 28* -- TBD Game 7: Rangers @ Captials VERSUS

No. 3 Devils vs No. 6 Capitals
April 15 -- 7:30 Game 1: Hurricanes @ Devils
April 17 -- 7:30 Game 2: Hurricanes @ Devils
April 19 -- 7:30 Game 3: Devils @ Hurricanes
April 21 -- 7:30 Game 4: Devils @ Hurricanes
April 23* -- 7:30 Game 5: Hurricanes @ Devils
April 25* -- TBD Game 6: Devils @ Hurricanes VERSUS
April 27* -- 7:30 Game 7: Hurricanes @ Devils

No. 4 Penguinss vs No. 5 Flyers
April 15 -- 7:00 Game 1: Flyers @ Penguins VERSUS
April 17 -- 7:00 Game 2: Flyers @ Penguins VERSUS
April 19 -- 3:00 Game 3: Penguins @ Flyers NBC
April 21 -- 7:00 Game 4: Penguins @ Flyers VERSUS
April 23* -- 7:00 Game 5: Flyers @ Penguins VERSUS
April 25* -- 3:00 Game 6: Penguins @ Flyers NBC
April 27* -- TBD Game 7: Flyers @ Penguins VERSUS


Western Conference Quarterfinals (* If Necessary)

No. 1 Sharks vs No. 8 Ducks
April 16 -- 10:30 Game 1: Ducks @ Sharks VERSUS
April 19 -- 10:00 Game 2: Ducks @ Sharks VERSUS
April 21 -- 10:30 Game 3: Sharks @ Ducks VERSUS
April 23 -- 10:30 Game 4: Sharks @ Ducks VERSUS
April 25* -- 10:00 Game 5: Ducks @ Sharks VERSUS
April 27* -- TBD Game 6: Sharks @ Ducks VERSUS
April 29* -- TBD Game 7: Ducks @ Sharks VERSUS

No. 2 Red Wings vs No. 7 Blue Jackets
April 16 -- 7:00 Game 1: Blue Jackets @ Red Wings VERSUS
April 18 -- 6:00 Game 2: Blue Jackets @ Red Wings
April 21 -- 7:00 Game 3: Red Wings @ Blue Jackets
April 23 -- 7:00 Game 4: Red Wings @ Blue Jackets
April 25* -- 7:00 Game 5: Blue Jackets @ Red Wings VERSUS
April 27* -- TBD Game 6: Red Wings @ Blue Jackets
April 29* -- TBD Game 7: Blue Jackets @ Red Wings VERSUS

No. 3 Canucks vs No. 6 Blues
April 15 -- 10:00 Game 1: Blues @ Canucks VERSUS
April 17 -- 10:00 Game 2: Blues @ Canucks VERSUS
April 19 -- 7:00 Game 3: Canucks @ Blues VERSUS
April 21 -- 8:00 Game 4: Canucks @ Blues VERSUS
April 24* -- 10:00 Game 5: Blues @ Canucks VERSUS
April 26* -- 8:00 Game 6: Canucks @ Blues VERSUS
April 28* -- TBD Game 7: Blues @ Canucks VERSUS

No. 4 Blackhawks vs No. 5 Flames
April 16 -- 8:30 Game 1: Blackhawks @ Flames VERSUS
April 18 -- TBD Game 2: Blackhawks @ Flames
April 20 -- 9:30 Game 3: Flames @ Blackhawks VERSUS
April 22 -- TBD Game 4: Flames @ Blackhawks VERSUS
April 25* -- 10:00 Game 5: Blackhawks @ Flames
April 27* -- TBD Game 6: Flames @ Blackhawks
April 29* -- TBD Game 7: Blackhawks @ Flames


Versus games are not exclusive in the 1st round, locally televised games are blacked out on Versus. In the 2nd round Versus gets 2 exclusive games per series. NBC games are always exclusive. Games without a TV provider listed are available on local sports nets, HD is based on local availability.
post #2 of 591
Ugh, NBC/Versus's concentration on NY and Philly is getting ridiculous. Boston and Montreal is such a heated rivalry and is being almost completely ignored.

Any word if NHL Network will pick up some of the CBC/TSN/team RSN-produced coverage of the games not already on VS or NBC?
post #3 of 591
They better not, i'm tired of getting locked out of games on Center Ice just because they are on NHL Network, which I don't see a point in getting quite yet.


And I don't think they will so people will watch the national coverage...unless they just forget about the ratings completely.
post #4 of 591
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

Ugh, NBC/Versus's concentration on NY and Philly is getting ridiculous. Boston and Montreal is such a heated rivalry and is being almost completely ignored.

NBC and Versus would rather not show a team from Canada since that only gives them half a fan base. Not to mention that the CBC doesn't like to show day games like NBC does. Versus can pick up more games in this series if others end early and this goes longer.
post #5 of 591
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Originally Posted by ncsu1 View Post

They better not, i'm tired of getting locked out of games on Center Ice just because they are on NHL Network, which I don't see a point in getting quite yet.

Isn't NHL Network included in your Center Ice subscription? It is here.

NHL Network does not carry live playoff games.
post #6 of 591
Nope. It's in the Sports Tier here. TWC NC.


Any news for FS Carolinas?!
post #7 of 591
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Originally Posted by ncsu1 View Post

Anyone on here that would know anything before the announce it, if they ever do, about HD playoff games for the regional networks, specifically FS Carolinas?


We got something like 12 ****ing HD games the whole season, there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to pick up some of the road games in HD, right?

It is going to be tough to get HD for the Ducks and Blues RSNs to get HD. The primary HD trucks for the area are already scheduled to do MLB games.

There may an idle/available (Mobile TV Group) HD truck floating around the Carolina area.
post #8 of 591
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

NBC and Versus would rather not show a team from Canada since that only gives them half a fan base. Not to mention that the CBC doesn't like to show day games like NBC does. Versus can pick up more games in this series if others end early and this goes longer.

Both of my teams imploded down the stretch, so I'm simply watching as a fan of the game. For my money, Boston-Montreal is going to be the most exciting series, while I can't see the Rangers lasting more than 5 games before Ovi and Semin finish them off.

Also, how does Versus plan to show Columbus-Detroit at 7, Chicago-Calgary at 8:30, and Anaheim-SJ at 10:30 on Thursday without skipping half of the later games? This is where NHL Network would be perfect: give us the TSN coverage of Chicago-Calgary on NHL Network and keep the others on Versus. If this year is anything like last, most of the Western Conference games will be simulcasts of the Canadian coverage anyway, so why not use all available channels to show us more complete games?
post #9 of 591
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^^^^
Because Versus is paying the NHL money to show games. Why would they want another national channel (NHL Network) showing games that could take away viewers from them?
post #10 of 591
I can see that on the exclusive games, but how many viewers does Versus really expect to draw on a non-exclusive half game?
post #11 of 591
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

I can see that on the exclusive games, but how many viewers does Versus really expect to draw on a non-exclusive half game?

the NHL draws such low numbers that they should do everything they can to get eyeballs, even if it means giving viewers the option to watch this game here or that game there. TSN and CBC are going head-to-head in Canada during the playoffs.

i look at the model that the NBA uses for NBA TV in the playoffs. they schedule a bit better for TV (no more than 3 games per night during the week, 4 every weekend day, during the 1st round). ESPN2 helps out ESPN on their nights. NBA TV helps out TNT on their nights. and then ABC has some day games, and every game is televised nationally. NBA TV is offered as a free preview during the entire 1st round of the playoffs, including maybe 3 or 4 games.
post #12 of 591
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

^^^^
Because Versus is paying the NHL money to show games. Why would they want another national channel (NHL Network) showing games that could take away viewers from them?

This is the most fan un-friendly arrangement imaginable. I live in Virginia, and pay up lots of money for center ice every year, but it looks to me, like we will only get to see half the Cgy/Chi game 1 at best. And since Vs is claiming this game, I am sure it will not be on Center Ice. There is a good chance, they won't even show any of this game! Way to piss off your loyal customers, nhl.
post #13 of 591
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Originally Posted by ncsu1 View Post

Any news for FS Carolinas?!

None of the FS-CR games say HD on the NHL schedule.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebymonth.htm?month=200904
All of the Devils broadcasts will be on MSG+HD but the schedule does not list them.
post #14 of 591
There will be plenty of hockey to watch especially starting with the second round.

Football and baseball are the only sports you can see every game come playoff time because there are way fewer so people should not expect that from hockey and basketball.

Fear the Bear!!
post #15 of 591
Versus Looks To Light NHL Postseason Ratings Lamp

Network Brings Nielsen Momentum Into Hockey's Playoffs

by Mike Reynolds -- Multichannel News

Versus will carry ratings momentum into the boards when the National Hockey League faces off for the 2009 Stanley Cup Playoffs Wednesday.

The Comcast-owned sports network continued its Nielsen advance with the puck sport with significant double-digit growth during the 2008-09 regular season. At the same time, Versus will look to measure up to the major gains it registered with last year's postseason run.

“It's our fourth season. Versus is the established home for the National Hockey League,” said Versus executive vice president of programming, production and business operations Marc Fein, who notes the network is also benefiting from an expanded sub base that has grown 4% over the past year in surpassing the 75 million mark.

During its 56-game regular-season game coverage, Versus scored a 21% increase in viewership to 329,794 from 272,417 in the 2007-08 season, according to Nielsen Media Research data. Officials said the network reached 32.9 million total viewers, its most-ever with the NHL, and improved its delivery among men 18 to 34, 18 to 49 and 25 to 54 by 51%, 43% and 41%, respectively.

Fein also believes that Versus is scoring with younger-skewing sports like WEC (World Extreme Cagefighting), which helped it become one of the five fastest-growing ad-supported cable networks among the 18-to-34 set in 2008. Versus also figures its coverage of the Indy Racing League will fuel more playoff viewers.

“There's been lot of promotion for the Indy Car series,” said Fein. “We've only televised one race so far, but we anticipate it will bring a new audience. Hopefully, there will be some crossover to the NHL.”

Versus also is looking to push the puck along with a multimedia NHL promotional playoffs campaign, including a quartet of spots, which carry the “Every Second Counts” tagline.

With clubs still jockeying for playoff positioning at press time, Versus, according to Fein, would not finalize its opening-round schedule until Sunday April 12. However, it's looking at a postseason lineup that will include such hockey hotbeds as Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. It also includes the New York Rangers and the nation's largest DMA as the Blueshirts clinched a playoff spot with a 2-1 win over the Flyers Thursday night.

On the ad front, McDonald's, Cisco and Bridgestone are NHL official sponsors and new season-long advertisers. Taco Bell, Domino's Pizza and Honda are newcomers to Versus' NHL ad roster, with the auto steering a large post-season presence. Anheuser-Busch is a presenting sponsor for the network's Hockey Central post-game show, while Verizon and the U.S. Marines Corps have secured similar positions for its intermission reports.

At a minimum, Versus will televise 50 playoff games, depending on how the series break, with exclusivity skating in during the conference finals. Over 52 quarterfinal, semifinals, conference finals and Stanley Cup Finals games in 2008, Versus scored a 50% increase to a 0.6 average and a 58% surge in viewership to 661,669 viewers.

During nine conference-final matchups, Versus notched a 1.2 average and 1.29 million viewers on average, advancing 71% and 77%, respectively, from the comparable round in 2007.

The network capped 2008 with a 1.8 rating and 2.3 million viewers for Game One of the Detroit Red Wings-Pittsburgh Penguins Stanley Cup Finals and a 1.9 and 2.54 million for the second contest — the sport's best cable post-season marks since 2002 on ESPN2. The latter was Versus' top telecast ever in terms of both households and viewers.

This year, there is a switch in game assignments, as NBC will show games one and two before Versus covers the third and fourth Cup contests. The schedule opens up some interesting possibilities.

“Sure, we want a good series for the sport and NBC,” said Fein. “But it would be cool if the Cup were hoisted by the Stanley Cup champions on our network.”
post #16 of 591
The fact that the cup-winning game could potentially happen on Versus makes me very sad.
post #17 of 591
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

There will be plenty of hockey to watch especially starting with the second round.

Football and baseball are the only sports you can see every game come playoff time because there are way fewer so people should not expect that from hockey and basketball.

Fear the Bear!!

Who cares if there is plenty of hockey if you can't see the team you follow. It is ridiculous that they black out paying center ice customers feeds so that versus can show maybe a period of the game, or perhaps none at all as is the case Thursday where they are trying to show 3 games in 6 hours.

That is the point of center ice, to see games that aren't shown nationally.
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Who cares if there is plenty of hockey if you can't see the team you follow. It is ridiculous that they black out paying center ice customers feeds so that versus can show maybe a period of the game, or perhaps none at all as is the case Thursday where they are trying to show 3 games in 6 hours.

That is the point of center ice, to see games that aren't shown nationally.

But that is for the regular season. Come playoffs there are all sorts of new contractual agreements that come into play and if your not in your home teams market, your most likely not going to see it unless it ends up as one of the national games and it has always been that way.

So just hope your team goes deep into the playoffs as it will increase the chances that you will get to see them!
post #19 of 591
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

But that is for the regular season. Come playoffs there are all sorts of new contractual agreements that come into play and if your not in your home teams market, your most likely not going to see it unless it ends up as one of the national games and it has always been that way.

So just hope your team goes deep into the playoffs as it will increase the chances that you will get to see them!

Why do you come in spewing this garbage, when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 1st and 2nd round playoff games not covered nationally have always been on center ice. It is advertised when they sell it, and has almost always been the case. The crappy thing that is happening this year, is that VS is claiming 3 games in one night that they can't possibly show much more than a period/period and a half of. Therefore blocking them from Center Ice.
post #20 of 591
I guess we will all find out what's blacked out and what's not tomorrow night.
post #21 of 591
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Originally Posted by beaudot View Post

Why do you come in spewing this garbage, when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 1st and 2nd round playoff games not covered nationally have always been on center ice. It is advertised when they sell it, and has almost always been the case. The crappy thing that is happening this year, is that VS is claiming 3 games in one night that they can't possibly show much more than a period/period and a half of. Therefore blocking them from Center Ice.

And Versus would be blacked out in the local market due to contractual agreements with the local RSN!

Vs usually picks up another feed in a lot of those games and is not exclusive. Could be a CBC or TSN telecast for example.

So different rules do apply in the playoffs, I'm not making them up.
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And Versus would be blacked out in the local market due to contractual agreements with the local RSN!

Vs usually picks up another feed in a lot of those games and is not exclusive. Could be a CBC or TSN telecast for example.

So different rules do apply in the playoffs, I'm not making them up.

Versus will either produce their own broadcast, or show CBC or TSN's feed from Canada. http://puckthemedia.wordpress.com/ does a good job of telling its readers the who's and what's for the nationally televised games.
post #23 of 591
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

And Versus would be blacked out in the local market due to contractual agreements with the local RSN!

Vs usually picks up another feed in a lot of those games and is not exclusive. Could be a CBC or TSN telecast for example.

So different rules do apply in the playoffs, I'm not making them up.

Blacking out VS to show the game on local RSN is ok. Viewers can still watch locally.

Blacking out Center ice to show the game on Vs is fine. You can watch the game on Vs.

Blacking out Center ice to show maybe one period, maybe nothing at all of a game is crap. Either show the game, or give it to Center Ice.
post #24 of 591
2009 Stanley Cup Finals Schedule

All games in HDTV
All Times ET
* If Necessary

If the Conference Finals end after May 26:

Game 1
Friday 6/5
8pm NBC / CBC

Game 2
Saturday 6/6
8pm NBC / CBC

Game 3
Monday 6/8
8pm Versus / CBC

Game 4
Wednesday 6/10
8pm Versus / CBC

* Game 5
Friday 6/12
8pm NBC / CBC

* Game 6
Sunday 6/14
5pm NBC / CBC

* Game 7
Tuesday 6/16
8pm NBC / CBC


If the Conference Finals end before May 26:

Game 1
Friday 5/29
8pm NBC / CBC

Game 2
Saturday 5/30
8pm NBC / CBC

Game 3
Tuesday 6/2
8pm Versus / CBC

Game 4
Thursday 6/4
8pm Versus / CBC

* Game 5
Saturday 6/6
8pm NBC / CBC

* Game 6
Tuesday 6/9
8pm NBC / CBC

* Game 7
Friday 6/12
8pm NBC / CBC
post #25 of 591
Does vs have a way to show different games to different parts of the country like what is done for the NFL?
post #26 of 591
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Does vs have a way to show different games to different parts of the country like what is done for the NFL?

not sure, but since they have blackouts for the playoffs, it's possible. i'd like to have an alternate game when Versus has the Rangers or Devils.
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Does vs have a way to show different games to different parts of the country like what is done for the NFL?

I don't believe so.
post #28 of 591
Okay, I blame the Hurricanes for the horrible deal they negotiated with FSN, when they had the opportunity to get more games and HD games, they didn't take it.

Credit to FSNS for replying in less than 24 hours, and this was a mass email, I wasn't the only one complaining apparently:
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Thank you for taking the time to write. We understand your frustration with this situation and understand that you would rather see the Hurricanes in HD than receive an explanation back from FOX Sports Carolinas. However, several factors play into whether a game can be televised in HD, including the availability of an HD production truck from our truck vendors and the availability of HD transmission space from FSN’s national facility. Unfortunately, with FSN regional networks across the country televising the NHL playoffs and NBA and MLB regular-season games, we are not able to produce the Hurricanes’ playoff series in HD.

We increased our HD schedule from the 2007-08 NHL season to the 2008-09 NHL season and are working towards producing a full HD schedule in coming years. Again, we apologize for this inconvenience and hope that you enjoy watching John Forslund and Tripp Tracy call the Hurricanes series against the Devils.

Thank you.

Didn't the national facility upgrade allow all of their units to do games in HD?
post #29 of 591
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Didn't the national facility upgrade allow all of their units to do games in HD?

That was my understanding, but the upgrade may not be complete.
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Didn't the national facility upgrade allow all of their units to do games in HD?

Yes, it did however the issue is not the master control facility capacity, it is the availability of HD production trucks as they said in their email to you.
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several factors play into whether a game can be televised in HD, including the availability of an HD production truck from our truck vendors
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