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post #1471 of 3784
10/11/10 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by TheMarco View Post

I never expected a lot of trolling on a sophisticated forum such as AVS. Ever since I started following this particular thread I have not seen any trolling. I have however seen a lot of accusations related to trolling, including being accused of it myself.

In my opinion cuco33 is right.

Your last sentence invalidates anything you've ever written on any subject. One of the biggest trolls in AVS history is "right", yet you haven't seen any trolling. Well, now you know why.

GT brings all the trolls to the yard, and they're like, FZ3's better than yours.

Brandon
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post #1472 of 3784
10/11/10 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Your last sentence invalidates anything you've ever written on any subject.

Guess I'll go sit and sob in a corner now.
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post #1473 of 3784
10/11/10 at 7:58pm
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For only $9,500 you can get a top of the line GT5 racing pod:
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If you’ve been watching the evolution of GT5 at various game shows and events over the past few years, you probably noticed these circular “racing pods” used to show off the game. Made of steel and glass, they’re certainly impressive looking and are now being sold to the public.

According to Middle Eastern gaming site MEGamers, the pods are available for 35,000 Dirhams (or approximately $9,529.24 at current exchange rates) at Jumbo Electronics stores in Dubai – and a few units have already been sold. For that price, you get the pod itself, the racing seat, a Logitech DFGT, a PlayStation 3 250GB console, a copy of GT5 (when it’s released), and a 40” Sony Bravia 3D TV.

One of GTPlanet’s own users, super_fla, actually won one of these pods back in August of 2008 in the GT5 Prologue Middle East Challenge. Don’t miss these pictures of his modified rig – complete with a Logitech G25 wheel upgrade and custom inverted pedals.

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post #1474 of 3784
10/11/10 at 8:01pm
a driving force GT???? GTFO G27 or G25 if i'm paying 9500 bucks for a frickin GT5 pod
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post #1475 of 3784
10/11/10 at 8:04pm
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Here's the currently known track and variation course list, compiled at GTPlanet:




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Notes: Special Stage Route 11 might not turn out to be "Route 11", but a new track with a different name. It appears to be different than Special Stage Route 5 that's been confirmed some time ago. Some of its features remind SSR11 from past games. Same for "Route B". That's the highway-like night track with Special Stage scenery seen on the weather effects video.

There's the possibility that all "Special Stage" tracks might turn out to be all variations of the same common circuit/location (With Shuto Expressway-like scenery) in different places, by the way, so they might actually count as one track/location with several variations.
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post #1476 of 3784
10/11/10 at 9:53pm
Just pre-ordered yesterday, can't frickin wait!
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post #1477 of 3784
10/11/10 at 11:36pm
i'm not seeing grand valley speedway, infineon raceway, or laguna seca. these are my favorite tracks. and you would think we'd have stuff like this confirmed this close to launch.

i wouldn't mind seeing cote d zure and seattle make the cut, either.
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post #1478 of 3784
10/12/10 at 6:41am
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Your last sentence invalidates anything you've ever written on any subject. One of the biggest trolls in AVS history is "right", yet you haven't seen any trolling. Well, now you know why.

GT brings all the trolls to the yard, and they're like, FZ3's better than yours.

Brandon



I'm 'one of the biggest trolls in AVS history'?!?! really?!
ummmmm WTF?!



Put down the koolaid then get back to me. The only 2 things you can say about me being negative on this entire site was my dislike of Warhawk and the existence of GT5:Prologue. Nothing more.
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post #1479 of 3784
10/12/10 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by blklightning View Post

i'm not seeing grand valley speedway, infineon raceway, or laguna seca. these are my favorite tracks. and you would think we'd have stuff like this confirmed this close to launch.

i wouldn't mind seeing cote d zure and seattle make the cut, either.

+1

That can't be the full track list. Laguna Seca is there though (#15).
I'd be here all day if I was listing off more tracks I'd like in the game (like Road Atlanta, Sebring, Buttonwillow, Mid-Ohio, and Lime Rock, yes.. Lime Rock )
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post #1480 of 3784
10/12/10 at 7:27am
Yeah, stupid Laguna Seca will be there. Damn, I hate that track . One of those I could never master in GT4, I would always tremble and hesitate when approaching that downhill turn. argghh..

Those you who are spilling the beans on the CE, there are some new info on the Apex book as well as few pics. I'm looking forward to studying all the cars on the go
20 days to go.
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post #1481 of 3784
10/12/10 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by cuco33 View Post



I'm 'one of the biggest trolls in AVS history'?!?! really?!
ummmmm WTF?!



It seems some people on here have a different concept of 'a troll' than the rest of the internet does.
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post #1482 of 3784
10/12/10 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

Still, in the end I'm not sure what they hope to accomplish. GT5 will sell a bajillion copies and actual gamers with honest interest in it will be racing, discussing and thoroughly enjoying this title -despite the game not being 100% pristine perfect in every area- until GT6 touches down. Nothing they say or do will change that. As partially listed above, there is far more epic greatness put into GT5 than the trolling gripers/whiners want to give it credit for, which is why they deserve less than zero respect as individuals in this thread whether the point they bring up is valid or not.

WOW. I mean just WOW. I know I said I was out of this thread but THIS right here sums it up. No disrespect at all intended to you joeblow but this whole paragraph reads as a 13 year old wearing a "I LUV GT5" T-Shirt sitting at the keyboard mad as hell. Seriously man? A person deserves zero respect because something they consider a basic feature is missing or incomplete in the game and they wish to express it and point out how glaring it is? Really man. And that's justified because GT5 is going to sell a "bajillion" copies? And lets be honest, GT5 is the Madden of Racing in that people will buy it simply because they feel they have to have it if they have a PS3. And a huge portion of those will stop playing with a few months. Don't take my word for it. Just wait till January and see all the used copies that'll be sitting in Gamestop. That's not a knock on the game, it has established itself as a must have. But let's be real you know alot of those sales are just followers or those who want a "pretty" game.

Previously you mentioned a "few" people are complaining about cockpits. Trust me when I say it's far far more than a "few". There are threads all over the internet pages long on this very subject of less than 200 cars having cockpit views while the others have no cockpit view at all.

As was mentioned before they could have honestly left Karts out. I mean really what does it cost to go karting for real? It's not like something that a person couldn't actually go out and do themselves regardless of driving skill level.
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post #1483 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:05am
Do you honestly think that, if they didn't have karts, they would have 400 cars with cockpits?
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post #1484 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by totalownership View Post

Previously you mentioned a "few" people are complaining about cockpits. Trust me when I say it's far far more than a "few". There are threads all over the internet pages long on this very subject of less than 200 cars having cockpit views while the others have no cockpit view at all.

...and we all know that when people complain on the internet, they always stick to their guns/boycotts/abstentions/petitions/etc.
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post #1485 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:11am
my wife is so cool, she gave me the green light on getting a wheel
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post #1486 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by confidenceman View Post

...and we all know that when people complain on the internet, they always stick to their guns/boycotts/abstentions/petitions/etc.

The crazy thing is that PD has basically added everything people have asked for over the years. Tire effects, online play, damage, smoke, etc. All these deficiencies in prior GT games have been addressed. They also added a bunch of other stuff, stuff which looks to make the game much better. But the only thing anyone can focus on is the 200/800 split.

Maybe PD should just not have bothered with standard cars and just shipped with 200, and said hey this is the first game in the gen and this is all we could get in.
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post #1487 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by Bazylik View Post

Yeah, stupid Laguna Seca will be there. Damn, I hate that track . One of those I could never master in GT4, I would always tremble and hesitate when approaching that downhill turn. argghh..

Those you who are spilling the beans on the CE, there are some new info on the Apex book as well as few pics. I'm looking forward to studying all the cars on the go
20 days to go.

I love the track. Once you know where the brake points are on certain cars it's like 2nd nature to me. I used to fear the corkscrew because I used to do it wrong (braked too late most times, too early some times) until enough practice. Now it's just a matter of learning the car's characteristics, the game's engine, and the right brake point and the corkscrew is no brainer... until another car is around you of course
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post #1488 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

Maybe PD should just not have bothered with standard cars and just shipped with 200, and said hey this is the first game in the gen and this is all we could get in.

Or seriously, all PD had to do was not bother creating any "premium" models at all, and no one would have noticed the difference. But because they added extra visual flair and accuracy to "only" 200 cars, people are now complaining that they didn't do more!

I can only shake my head and say to myself, "ridiculous culture of entitlement..."
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post #1489 of 3784
10/12/10 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by confidenceman View Post

Or seriously, all PD had to do was not bother creating any "premium" models at all, and no one would have noticed the difference. But because they added extra visual flair and accuracy to "only" 200 cars, people are now complaining that they didn't do more!

I can only shake my head and say to myself, "ridiculous culture of entitlement..."

Thats not the issue. Only 200 or so cars get the dash view is the issue. They spent their R&D replicating back seats and carpets while that man power could have gone else where. Priorities are a bit screwed.
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post #1490 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by totalownership View Post


Amazing that you have to invent a position of mine to argue against instead of sticking with what I've said repeatedly. Definitely not a surprise coming from you.

Never once have I said that the game is perfect, or that it has to be, or that people are wrong for mentioning an issue. I point out the simple fact that a few dedicated GT trolls abound and that they exist *only* to derail GT5 topics on the 'net and they do it by wither focusing solely on whatever problem they want to whine about (you just know their pathetic post will be a another complaint when you see the name) or go off-topic about Forza, which does not even work on this system.

That's it in a nutshell. Responsible gamers can praise/criticize any title. I've never said differently. But the true trolls that come from under their bridge to comment in various gaming forums have no interest in that. They exist only to get the attention on themselves as they try to derail any and all positive discussions of a particular game. The point of bringing up the bajillion sales of GT is to point out why this particular title gives birth to a much higher population of trolls than most games, and that their sad derailment attempts won't do anything to change its success.
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Previously you mentioned a "few" people are complaining about cockpits. Trust me when I say it's far far more than a "few". There are threads all over the internet pages long on this very subject of less than 200 cars having cockpit views while the others have no cockpit view at all.

Lies. Nowhere did I say that. I said that it is dumb to think that PD would remove all premium cars to appease the "few" complainers of the dashboard issue who would otherwise not be satisfied with the game. Yes, I do believe that there are only a few who are like that (maybe ten in the world?). If you are going to use my statements to contribute to your derailment attempts, stop making up your own facts when you do it.
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post #1491 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:17am
Newbie questions for GT5.

I picked up a PS3 Slim for the kids and watching Blu-Ray movies, I've never played any games on it however I'm intrigued by GT5 and as a hopeless Top Gear fan I gotta have it. So I'm wondering:

#1 Can I just play it? By which I mean can I sit down with any car I want and race it round any track I want without having to spend countless hours building my way up some progress ladder to get the cool cars?

#2 Can turn off the hideous background music I hear on the demo videos (assuming that's really in the game)? Or better yet have it play my own tunes? I have some great Morse code tapes (<-That's a top gear joke)

#3. Related to #1, other than having the game and perhaps a cool wheel do I need anything else like fees for online play?

#4. Flappy paddle gear box? Do you use a clutch with those or are they more like an automatic? I'm just curious, I drive a stick but cars with flappies are a bit outside my normal driving range....

Thanks.
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post #1492 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by confidenceman View Post

Or seriously, all PD had to do was not bother creating any "premium" models at all, and no one would have noticed the difference. But because they added extra visual flair and accuracy to "only" 200 cars, people are now complaining that they didn't do more!

I can only shake my head and say to myself, "ridiculous culture of entitlement..."

Nailed it. Well said.

Although i like the cockpit view, when getting down and dirty in a close race, 90% of the time, I'll be in the bumper cam, with just the road in front of me.
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post #1493 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by Scamps View Post

Newbie questions for GT5.

I picked up a PS3 Slim for the kids and watching Blu-Ray movies, I've never played any games on it however I'm intrigued by GT5 and as a hopeless Top Gear fan I gotta have it. So I'm wondering:

#1 Can I just play it? By which I mean can I sit down with any car I want and race it round any track I want without having to spend countless hours building my way up some progress ladder to get the cool cars?

#2 Can turn off the hideous background music I hear on the demo videos (assuming that's really in the game)? Or better yet have it play my own tunes? I have some great Morse code tapes (<-That's a top gear joke)

#3. Related to #1, other than having the game and perhaps a cool wheel do I need anything else like fees for online play?

#4. Flappy paddle gear box? Do you use a clutch with those or are they more like an automatic? I'm just curious, I drive a stick but cars with flappies are a bit outside my normal driving range....

Thanks.

1. In Arcade mode, (at least in previous versions) you can pick the car and track you want and race. Though not all tracks and cars were unlocked right away.

2. From what I read yesterday, Custom Soundtracks are a feature, so start ripping those Morse code tapes to your PS3's HD. Books on tape might be good too.

3. No fees, the PSN is free; and you don't need a wheel, though they help if you use the Simulation or Professional handling modes.

4. Most wheels come with flappy paddle gear boxes, but it's up to you which transmission you want -auto or manual. I think the top of the line wheel has a clutch, but I've never tried it.

See you on the Top Gear test track.
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post #1494 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by Scamps View Post

Newbie questions for GT5.

I picked up a PS3 Slim for the kids and watching Blu-Ray movies, I've never played any games on it however I'm intrigued by GT5 and as a hopeless Top Gear fan I gotta have it. So I'm wondering:

#1 Can I just play it? By which I mean can I sit down with any car I want and race it round any track I want without having to spend countless hours building my way up some progress ladder to get the cool cars?

#2 Can turn off the hideous background music I hear on the demo videos (assuming that's really in the game)? Or better yet have it play my own tunes? I have some great Morse code tapes (<-That's a top gear joke)

#3. Related to #1, other than having the game and perhaps a cool wheel do I need anything else like fees for online play?

#4. Flappy paddle gear box? Do you use a clutch with those or are they more like an automatic? I'm just curious, I drive a stick but cars with flappies are a bit outside my normal driving range....

Thanks.

#1 - I had my dad sit down and play GT: Prologue. I honestly think it was the first time he ever played a video game before. He loves racing, especially NASCAR, so he of course understood the concept of the game. I set everything up with arcade settings, put him on the High Speed Ring and he was doing laps against the CPU cars with no problems at all having the time of his life.

#2 - One feature of GT5 is the ability to play your own custom soundtrack via the XMB songs you have saved.

#3 - Online play for ALL internet-compatible games on the PS3 is 100% free. Some MMOs are on the way that will charge you monthly (DC Comics Online, Final Fantasy XIV online), but those are the rare exceptions. GT5 will not charge for its online play.

#4 - There are different wheels available. The DFGT from Logitech is the paddle shift; it is cheap but of good quality. The Logitech G27 has the gearshift box, but is pretty expensive comparatively:


#5 - I know you didn't have a fifth question, but I expected a query on wheelstands. Wheelstand Pro is one of the ones a lot of people get to stabilize your driving experience.
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post #1495 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by Scamps View Post

Newbie questions for GT5.

I picked up a PS3 Slim for the kids and watching Blu-Ray movies, I've never played any games on it however I'm intrigued by GT5 and as a hopeless Top Gear fan I gotta have it. So I'm wondering:

#1 Can I just play it? By which I mean can I sit down with any car I want and race it round any track I want without having to spend countless hours building my way up some progress ladder to get the cool cars?

#2 Can turn off the hideous background music I hear on the demo videos (assuming that's really in the game)? Or better yet have it play my own tunes? I have some great Morse code tapes (<-That's a top gear joke)

#3. Related to #1, other than having the game and perhaps a cool wheel do I need anything else like fees for online play?

#4. Flappy paddle gear box? Do you use a clutch with those or are they more like an automatic? I'm just curious, I drive a stick but cars with flappies are a bit outside my normal driving range....

Thanks.

1) no, you'll need to make $$$ to buy new cars and performance parts
2) probably
3) no
4) no comprende
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post #1496 of 3784
10/12/10 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

Thats not the issue. Only 200 or so cars get the dash view is the issue. They spent their R&D replicating back seats and carpets while that man power could have gone else where. Priorities are a bit screwed.

It seems that there's some real confusion here, and PD hasn't been especially clear in this regard. Part of the issue might be one of terminology, and another part might be poor translation. Just doing a quick Google search, you'll see links to "official" sources stating that standard cars will have cockpit racing view, and other "official" sources saying that they won't. I think this is a wait-and-see detail (and, for me, a non-issue).
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post #1497 of 3784
10/12/10 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by rgdigital View Post

Nailed it. Well said.

Although i like the cockpit view, when getting down and dirty in a close race, 90% of the time, I'll be in the bumper cam, with just the road in front of me.

so basically you're saying everyone should cater to your preferences?
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post #1498 of 3784
10/12/10 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

so basically you're saying everyone should cater to your preferences?

no he told the internets what he prefers
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post #1499 of 3784
10/12/10 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by Sonies View Post

4) no comprende

All the cool Super Cars they have on Top Gear have traded the historic clutch-and-gear shift of old:



With the on the wheel flappy paddle:



I was just curious if a clutch pedal is still used with a flappy paddle. However in digging up the photos I learned that a "Flappy Paddle" is really called a Semi-Automatic or clutchless manual transmission.
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post #1500 of 3784
10/12/10 at 12:22pm
oh paddle shifters... yeah no clutch for those!
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