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post #31 of 565
Anyone buy the HD radio add on? The other thread has me concerned on spending the extra $$ for the addon.

I'm leaning towards saving some $$ and buying the 6140 from flea bay. It'll save me half the retail price and I guess a square trade warranty will cover me - hopefully. The install @ BB is another $150 plus about $60 for the installation material - kit/harness/adaptor.
post #32 of 565
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Originally Posted by ymarker View Post

I saw that. What is interesting is that the updates come on an SD card. hmmm.... that does give me some ideas he he

Me too.
I installed the karen voice and treaked it a bit using ttsvoiceeditor.

http://www8.garmin.com/support/downl...ls.jsp?id=1043

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/6271616.html

http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/TTSVoiceEditor
post #33 of 565
Got my DNX6140 Yesterday. Hooked it up to see how it works. So far I'm quite happy. There are a few things I liked about the AVIC-F90BT better, but this Kenwood is much faster. Still getting used to the settings and I don't have everything hooked up yet, but I think I'll like it. Here's what I know so far about the 6140;

Cons
  • Either fader or Sub control (not both)
  • 2D and 3D map a little cheesy
  • No SD card reader
  • USB reader slow with large flash drive (32 gig)
    (expected, even my computer takes awhile to load all the songs)
  • No un-highlighted lettering on address search
    (letters that can't be used don't disappear on keyboard while name is completed)

Pros
  • Fast start up
  • Great resolution even at angles
  • Connects to LG Envy
  • On screen handsfree cancel/active button
  • Touch screen responsive
  • iPod loads fast with easy control
    (data loads in a few seconds, iPod charges while plugged in)
  • Easy EQ adjustment
  • Mini USB port on back for NAV upload/download
  • Can actually turn off unit completely
  • Anytime rear view view by holding NAV button down for more than second
  • Handsfree loud and clear on vehicle end
    (other end has some electronic distorsion, typical of speaker phone)
  • Handsfree volume adjustable with volume knob during call
    (not preset in function controls)

What have you found about the unit?
post #34 of 565
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Originally Posted by mntmst View Post

Me too.
I installed the karen voice and treaked it a bit using ttsvoiceeditor.

How do you install a new voice on the 6140?
post #35 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post

How do you install a new voice on the 6140?

Good question. I have a DDX812/KNA-G510 combo. The KNA-G510 has both a SD card slot and mini-usb for updates. I just connect my laptop to the unit and power it up. With the garmin driver you can select garmin mode or mass storage to copy files.
post #36 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post


Cons
  • No SD card reader
  • No rear view on command (just in reverse)

I've not tried it yet but I wonder.... If you plug the SD card into a USB reader, if the unit will look at SD cards that way... and if so, can the Garmin portion of the unit be updated that way.?.? I suppose that worse case scenario is that you could burn the data on the Garmin SD card to a CD or DVD.

As for the "rear view" (I think you're talking about the rear view cam??) if you press and hold the top left hard button, the rear view input should come up and stay up until you select something else.
post #37 of 565
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Originally Posted by mntmst View Post

Good question. I have a DDX812/KNA-G510 combo. The KNA-G510 has both a SD card slot and mini-usb for updates. I just connect my laptop to the unit and power it up. With the garmin driver you can select garmin mode or mass storage to copy files.

I just realized the 6140 has a mini usb port on the back. Uses the same garmin plug for the hand helds. Cool. Does that must mean you can download/upload roads, tracks and POI's just like a regular garmin gps?
post #38 of 565
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Originally Posted by Daggar View Post

I've not tried it yet but I wonder.... If you plug the SD card into a USB reader, if the unit will look at SD cards that way... and if so, can the Garmin portion of the unit be updated that way.?.? I suppose that worse case scenario is that you could burn the data on the Garmin SD card to a CD or DVD.

I think I read in the instructions that you can't use a card reader in the usb. Just realized that the 6140 has a mini usb plug for updates and downloading?
post #39 of 565
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Originally Posted by mntmst View Post

Good question. I have a DDX812/KNA-G510 combo. The KNA-G510 has both a SD card slot and mini-usb for updates. I just connect my laptop to the unit and power it up. With the garmin driver you can select garmin mode or mass storage to copy files.

With what Garmin driver? The unit doesn't come with any cd/dvd or any info on how to do updates.
post #40 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post


Pros
  • Fast start up

Maybe this is relative, or I'm just a little impatient. LOL. I know it takes mine about 15 seconds from the time I start the car to the time it actually starts playing music. I guess I was spoiled by the factory unit that would turn on within a few seconds after flipping the key...but again, I guess i'm just spoiled.
post #41 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post

I think I read in the instructions that you can't use a card reader in the usb. Just realized that the 6140 has a mini usb plug for updates and downloading?

A standard multi-card reader, probably not. The single SD to USB card readers though... I've got a sneaking suspicion that so long as you're using a card reader that contains the firmware necessary to convert SD to USB that it might work just fine.

I say that because multi-card readers usually depend upon operating system drivers to handle the format of whatever type mem card you have plugged into the reader whereas single card converter usually contain firmware that accomplishes the data conversion on the fly.

I'll check it out and report back once I get hold of a single card converter. I've already confirmed that the USB port will accept MP3s etc. from your run of the mill thumb drive.
post #42 of 565
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Originally Posted by IIGood View Post

Maybe this is relative, or I'm just a little impatient. LOL. I know it takes mine about 15 seconds from the time I start the car to the time it actually starts playing music. I guess I was spoiled by the factory unit that would turn on within a few seconds after flipping the key...but again, I guess i'm just spoiled.

Your factory unit probably had no operating system to speak of where these things will go through and initialize the ports, devices, and so-on, just as a computer with a solid state drive and other peripherals would.
post #43 of 565
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Originally Posted by IIGood View Post

Maybe this is relative, or I'm just a little impatient. LOL. I know it takes mine about 15 seconds from the time I start the car to the time it actually starts playing music. I guess I was spoiled by the factory unit that would turn on within a few seconds after flipping the key...but again, I guess i'm just spoiled.

As say fast start up based on how slow the Pioneer AVIC-F90BT that I had was. That unit would take 30-40 seconds before you could anything.
post #44 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post

As say fast start up based on how slow the Pioneer AVIC-F90BT that I had was. That unit would take 30-40 seconds before you could anything.

Holy cow...that's painful...
post #45 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post

With what Garmin driver? The unit doesn't come with any cd/dvd or any info on how to do updates.

http://www8.garmin.com/support/downl...ils.jsp?id=591

If you have the miniusb interface you can install new voices in "garmin" mode then use "mass storage" to over-write the file in the /garmin/voices directory.
post #46 of 565
Used my daughters ipod lat night. Quick load (a few seconds) and easy control. Can sort by album, artist, song, genre and more. Charges while plugged in.
post #47 of 565
Has anybody tried to obtain the 2010 maps yet from Garmin? The link doesn't even list the 6140 as an option...I'm on hold with Garmin now. I did try submitting the request online but they just sent me to the same link that's been posted here...which doesn't have the 6140 listed. Argh.
post #48 of 565
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Originally Posted by IIGood View Post

Has anybody tried to obtain the 2010 maps yet from Garmin? The link doesn't even list the 6140 as an option...I'm on hold with Garmin now. I did try submitting the request online but they just sent me to the same link that's been posted here...which doesn't have the 6140 listed. Argh.

Does anyone know if the 6140 is based on or an upgrade from another unit? It isn't listed on any charts for maps, upgrades or support yet. Just wondering if you could use anothers model support, or if it's its own platform?
post #49 of 565
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Originally Posted by jamesdeanj View Post

Does anyone know if the 6140 is based on or an upgrade from another unit? It isn't listed on any charts for maps, upgrades or support yet. Just wondering if you could use anothers model support, or if it's its own platform?

Check the GPS "settings/about/software" menu. if your software is 3.80 it's the same as mine.
post #50 of 565
After talking with Garmin support, it appears as if they haven't gotten to the 2010 map upgrades yet for this line of Kenwood units. Heck, the couple techs I talked to didn't even know the 6140 existed...but knew of the other Kenwood 2009 DNX models (5140, 7140, etc).

Seems the 6140 is almost a "one-off"...there was no DNX6120, but there was a 5120, 7120, 8120. This year, there's the 5140, 6140, 7140, 8140, and even a 9140. Guess Garmin hasn't caught up yet. I can't see how Garmin's engine would really be different between each model, but what do I know.
post #51 of 565
I lost on screen control of my iPod. Did something mess up or did I accidentally mess up a setting somewhere? It still plays, but you control it from the iPod instead of the screen.
post #52 of 565
This thread rocks!! Im so glad i stumbled onto it.
We just bought a (please be kind) toyota sienna with a jbl system/no nav and wanted to do a kenwood or pioneer setup immediately. Based on the info here it sounds like i should spend a little more and go kenwood.

Im planning to add an overhead dvd unit by audiovox.

Does anyone know if an iphone/ipod with video can be played on the overhead unit or just on the kenwood?

The boss wants backup cam, sirius and iphone hooked up asap.

Do most run the iphone/ipod connector to a central console or to some mount?
Also is there a big difference b/w this and the next model up 7140 besides the extra 1"? seems like $500 for that increase is steep.

thanks for all the info and help!
post #53 of 565
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Originally Posted by goondog View Post

This thread rocks!! Im so glad i stumbled onto it.
We just bought a (please be kind) toyota sienna with a jbl system/no nav and wanted to do a kenwood or pioneer setup immediately. Based on the info here it sounds like i should spend a little more and go kenwood.

Im planning to add an overhead dvd unit by audiovox.

Does anyone know if an iphone/ipod with video can be played on the overhead unit or just on the kenwood?

The boss wants backup cam, sirius and iphone hooked up asap.

Do most run the iphone/ipod connector to a central console or to some mount?
Also is there a big difference b/w this and the next model up 7140 besides the extra 1"? seems like $500 for that increase is steep.

thanks for all the info and help!

You can play music and video from your iPod on the unit. You can then hook up other monitors via the AV output on the head unit. I bought my 6140 from Sonic Electronix for $750. ( this listing says $799, but there ebay store has it for $750 so they matched the price) The mains difs between the 6140 and 7140 is the 7140 has
  • front, rear and sub output
  • $40 Remote is included
  • Motorized faceplate (can adjust screen angle)

Other than these it doesn't look like much performance difference for the $300 increase. I would spend the saved money on rear/overhead monitors and backup camera. That's if you don't have money just fallen out of your pockets. I think the extra features are cool, I just couldn't justify spending the extra money. As you can see here I spent plenty in other ares.






Here's my mods list:

Old Man Emu's 901 Heavy Load (350lbs.) Rear Coil Springs.
Air Ride 1000lb leveling air bags in rear coils. Part# 60812.
Dual Viair 480C air compressor and 2.5 gallon air tank.
Firestone pneumatic controller and psi gauge.
Old Man Emu's 303003 Heavy Duty Torsion Bars.
San Diego Off Road Innovations 1.5" Ball Joint Spacer.
4Crawler 4" Panhard Bar Drop Bracket.
JDC Brake Proportioning Valve Relocation bracket.
Extended Brake lines by Trail Gear Inc.
Dual Battery system with quick connects front and rear.
Rancho RS5272 Front Shocks. 1.625" longer than stock.
Rancho RS5208 Rear Shocks. 1.75" longer than stock.
Energy Suspension 9.9101 Bump Stop. 2.125"
Warn Premium Manual Hubs. Part# 28761
JDC Front lower bumper w/2" Receiver and Quick-links.
JDC Safari Rack with KC lights and Hi-Lift Jack mounts.
JDC Extreme duty adjustable lower link arms.
JDC lower front bumper valance.
Custom paint job (color change including jams).
Powder coated bumpers (black hammer tone w/clear).
JDC Replacement Factory graphics.
Body side moldings.
Clear Bra (Paint Protection Film).
Transmission cooler.
Oil filter relocation kit.
LED backup lights in rear bumper.
Hi Lift HL-485 Extreme Jack.
Eclipse Sunshade.
Kenwood DNX6140.
JL Audio component speakers all around.
JL Audio 10" w1 sub.
Dual Pioneer GM Series amps.
Rear backup camera.

I'm getting ready to do a full write up on the deck and install as soon as I have it all buttoned up. Here is the rest of my 93 4Runner build write up.
post #54 of 565
Thread Starter 
Ok... I'm lost. What do those pics have to do with the 6140?
post #55 of 565
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Originally Posted by Daggar View Post

Ok... I'm lost. What do those pics have to do with the 6140?

Sorry, I was saying I didn't have the extra money for a 7140 because I spent my money elsewhere.
post #56 of 565
thanks for the info.
i miss my 05 4R and happy that you can enjoy the truck.

Unfortunately i dont have the knowledge/experience in installation and will be purchasing the unit and having it installed so i gotta go with whatever their price is.
Another question i have is can i have a ipod nano put into the center console that i leave in the car AND an iphone hook up?

ill post some pics once its done.
post #57 of 565
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Originally Posted by goondog View Post

thanks for the info.
i miss my 05 4R and happy that you can enjoy the truck.

Unfortunately i dont have the knowledge/experience in installation and will be purchasing the unit and having it installed so i gotta go with whatever their price is.
Another question i have is can i have a ipod nano put into the center console that i leave in the car AND an iphone hook up?

ill post some pics once its done.

You should be able to bluetooth the phone and leave the nano plugged in.
post #58 of 565
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by goondog View Post

thanks for the info.
i miss my 05 4R and happy that you can enjoy the truck.

Unfortunately i dont have the knowledge/experience in installation and will be purchasing the unit and having it installed so i gotta go with whatever their price is.
Another question i have is can i have a ipod nano put into the center console that i leave in the car AND an iphone hook up?

ill post some pics once its done.

Yes... IIRC the nano just has a din output and there's a din input on the face of the 6140. You can use the iphone cable through the USB input for video/audio from your iphone. You can also use the bluetooth for the A2P functions but you'll not be able to run video from your iphone through BT.
post #59 of 565
Daggar thanks for the info.

i saw that you put an overhead screen in at the same time and you could control it (basic functions-play stop ff, rr) from the kenwood. Was this a monitor LCD or an actual DVDplayer. Im thinking of putting a dvd player so the kids can independently control the screen but i like the idea of head unit control so the kids are not getting out of seats to put in a disc while car is moving. How was this connected/wired up in your setup? I plan on a back up camera so i dont know if that would limit me.

and lastly since the iphone uses up the only usb input, is it possible to use a splitter to gain an extra usb port? Dont know why but thought it might come in handy.

thanks again!!
post #60 of 565
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Originally Posted by Daggar View Post

Yes... IIRC the nano just has a din output and there's a din input on the face of the 6140. You can use the iphone cable through the USB input for video/audio from your iphone. You can also use the bluetooth for the A2P functions but you'll not be able to run video from your iphone through BT.

Daggar, you can display the clock in nav mode, at least I can on my 7140, I dont remember exactly where but in the nav setup pages there is an option for more or less data, it brings up a column on the right hand side with more info i.e. time of arrival, speed, ect. you can then click on one of those data blocks and there is an option to display actual time.

I love my 7140 almost got the 6140 but this thing is awesome.

Patrick
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