Samsung PN**B450 Picture Settings - Page 37

Originally Posted by TaichiKid

My Colourspace settings are the same, except one My Magenta has a HUE of 0x16 vs your 0x17. I am in western Canada, and my panel was from Jan 2010.

Originally Posted by kanpol

Are you refering to my colorspace default(US) or Mac4ps colorspace default(EU).
My defaults are
W2_Rgain-131
W2_Bgain-91
W2_Roffsets-119
W2_Boffsets-121

Originally Posted by TaichiKid

And for anyone who want to compare, here are my deault settings...

In contrast to the classic CRT calibration/s I still did a whole 4 - 5 years ago today's sets have no deflection yokes, no power supplies set to approximately 31.5 KVolts, no differing crystal clocks, no discrete circuit boards, or delay lines.

The sets today are uniformly derived with phase locked loops, crystal countdown to 1/100 million, digital signal processing, zener diode based voltage supplies, uniform lead inductance & capacitance vs discrete boards.. Even plasma cells are pretty uniform.

One observation I have is that most in this forum are loath to turn on digital edge detection. I would beg to differ.

For one thing, non hi-def broadcast is still 480i in N.America, and 576i in Europe. Zoom that picture up a lot & the pix often look fuzzy.. The old edge enhancement algorithm used the trick of making any edge look like a square wave by increasing the high frequency components, increasing upper Fourier transform components, modern DSP also uses matrix edge detection based on context. The modern stuff first extrapolates whole edges using matrix based image processing before deciding something is an edge, and then unobtrusively as possible enhances only a real edge..

Give the digital edge enhancement 'ON' a try if you see a fuzzy picture.

Here are my default service settings. I would be interested in seeing others in all regions.

Originally Posted by jamesco411

C450 owner here, having a question about the b450 models with regards to color space of auto vs. native. I have noticed on my c450 plasma that the auto color space s blues and reds when compared to native color on OTA HD signals (haven't tried with Blu-Ray). Eg: On the recent Cavs/Bulls NBA telecast, the red uniforms of the Bulls were much easier on the eyes and seemed much more accurate with the native setting than with auto setting on my c450 plasma.the reds were deeper and less fuzzy. To me, it would seem as though the function should be the opposite for auto vs. native, meaning that native should be expanding the color space beyond the sourceso I started to tinker with my Samsung LCD.

When testing out my Samsung LCD, the native color space ends up fluorescing these reds/blues, whereas auto tones them down. I'm curious as to why these settings are flip-flopped in for the plasmas vs. LCDs. Can anyone test their B450 to see what these respective color spaces do to reds/blues? Test to see if there is a noticeable difference on various sources?

Originally Posted by EE_engineer

Hopefully the functions are not flipped around (although anything is possible with Samsung). The "NATIVE" setting belongs in the service menu since it should never be used for normal viewing. If the colors appear to fluoresce and/or are fuzzy, that's a good indication that the "COLOR" setting is set way too high. Try turning down the color... the color shouldn't jump out at you. Set the color level to give a natural looking flesh tone. Good luck

Originally Posted by jamesco411

My color is at 38.....vs. the default of 50

Originally Posted by TaichiKid

This one is driving me batty; I get a delay out of the optical audio output somewhere between 65 and 75 msecs, does anyone have a number which worked well for them? I am guessing that the delay in the video processing circuitry is uniform because it is all in one unit.

Originally Posted by shibez

i dont notice a delay when i connect my dig. cable box to my audio receiver with optical audio

Originally Posted by dogukan

i accessed service menu today.the code is INFO + MENU + MUTE and then press the power button.but you should be really quick. i tried mac4ps ' s settings. actually it looks really good on samsung pn50b450. my reds was really bad and it looks really good right now.thank you guys.

Originally Posted by spon

Is there a trick to getting into the service menu? If I'm understanding correct, with the TV turned off hold down the INFO+MENU+MUTE buttons on the remote, then release them and press the power button. I've tried probably 50 times and can not get it to work.

Originally Posted by Pure_McNasty

If that method doesn't work, your set code is probably 1 + 8+ 2 + Mute. I have the 42B450 (US) and 182Mute is my code.

As a word of caution though, going in and changing only the CMS values as above isn't a problem, but there are settings in there that can make your tv not work. AT ALL. So don't touch a setting unless your absolutely sure of what it does.

Originally Posted by kanpol

hey Spon, your default colorspace matches my default. You can turn the mode to on and put the settings you want to use for movie mode (example contrast brightness color tint) that way it will automatically keep settings you want as its default. If you change the default settings from colorspace and the the W2 W1 N, make sure your either write the defaults down or take a picture of them. If you go into the expert section of the service menu you can turn N/D adjustment to on and you will have cal-day and cal-night mode. For that to work you will also need to change your tv model to b560 or b590. That wi9ll also enable cinema smoooth.
this link will explain it all in detail, just be careful, please

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569

Originally Posted by kanpol

hey Spon, your default colorspace matches my default. You can turn the mode to on and put the settings you want to use for movie mode (example contrast brightness color tint) that way it will automatically keep settings you want as its default. If you change the default settings from colorspace and the the W2 W1 N, make sure your either write the defaults down or take a picture of them. If you go into the expert section of the service menu you can turn N/D adjustment to on and you will have cal-day and cal-night mode. For that to work you will also need to change your tv model to b560 or b590. That wi9ll also enable cinema smoooth.
this link will explain it all in detail, just be careful, please

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569

Originally Posted by mac4ps

Hey, my first post. My tv is the PS50B430 (european model) Here are my settings after calibration with HCFR and DTP-94. I use the service menu because it is easier and I have more options (CMS) and it allows to make your settings as default at least for the movie mode.

Before make any change in service menu write down default settings.

Enter Service Menu: with the TV in stantby press in the remote control INFO + MENU + MUTE and then press the power button.

Highlight ADVANCED and then press 0 0 0 0

Then you go to WB Movie and set MODE to ON to activate. Now everything you set is the default mode for movie.

My settings are:

WB MOVIE

Mode - ON
Color Mode - Movie
Color Tone - Warm 2
MSub Brigh - 128
MSub Contr - 128
W2_RGAIN - 121
W2_BGAIN - 90
W2-ROFFS - 86
W2-BOFFS - 67
MOVIE CONTR - 86
MOVIE BRIGH - 48
MOVIE COLOR - 48
MOVIE SHARP - 0
MOVIE TINT - 50
MOVIE BKLIGHT - 10
M. GAMMA - 0,93
M. SUBGAMMA - 0

Now you press RETURN and go back to previous menu. Then you must go to COLOR SPACE. This is the CMS. These are my settings;

COLOR SPACE

RED SAT - 0x12
RED HUE - 0x23
GREEN SAT - 0x13
GREEN HUE - 0x3F
BLUE SAT - 0x1B
BLUE HUE - 0x49
CYAN SAT - 0x07
CYAN HUE - 0x18
MAGENTA SAT - 0x19
MAGENTA HUE - 0x1E
YELLOW SAT - 0x0C
YELLOW HUE - 0x0B

FWC BLUE 0x0F
FWC RED 0x0F

By the way if anybody knows what is FWC please post it.

These are my results:

Greyscale:



Gamma:



RGB Levels:



CIE Chart (rec709)




Best

Originally Posted by Kosta011

mac4ps, can these settings be used for european model samsung ps-c450?

thanks