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post #841 of 1416
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Originally Posted by bobbyy9 View Post

Yes, i did. I liked them..but found the setting i posted to show a bit more shadow detail other than that i couldn't really tell a difference i actually kept switching back and forth for about 30 mins lol because i couldnt decide what was better till i saw one scene where there was just slightly more detail with mine.But now i'm trying to figure out how to keep it relatively the same just a bit brighter. Question though..how do you tweak the white balance like that? are you using DVE and colour filters? i couldn't figure out how to do it....when i adjust them it doesnt seem to do anything


I used Spears and Munsil HD Calibration DVD. I especially like the settings I posted for sports viewing.
post #842 of 1416
I found these on cnet there for the b650 but figured id try them anyways but they were exactly what i was looking for more light output while still being accurate..so im still waiting to try dallows but as of now..with all the different settings ive tryed i think i finally found the winner.

--Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Cell Light: 10
Contrast: 99
Brightness: 49 or 48 just have to try both
Sharpness: 0
Color: 48
Tint: G50/R50

Advanced settings submenu
Black tone: Off
Dynamic contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Color space: Auto
Flesh tone: 0
Edge enhancement: Off


White balance submenu
R-Offset: 25
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 25
G-Gain: 21
B-Gain: 21

Picture options submenu
Color tone: Warm2
Size: Screen Fit

these settings get the light output higher and right around the 40ft/lmbt my last settings i just found to dim unless i turned all lights off for a movie...HD cable they werent bright enough these are perfect have a bit more accurate colour and more detail..skin tones look better..there just better lol right now im watching a show on sid the kid (crosby) vs alexander the great (ovechkin) on TSNHD haha and i finally got that wow effect from my HD that ive been looking for.
post #843 of 1416
I set up my 42b450 with tikijojo's and bobbyy9's settings and switched back and forth between them as one is set for standard and one is set for movie.

tikijojo's setting has just a hair more detail in the faces, but you have to look close to see them. I paused a frame where James T. Kirk and Spock are face to face just before Kirk took over the ship in the Star Trek 2009 movie. I was looking at Kirk's cut between his eye brows and that is what I used to compare.

You can see just a little more detail in the cut on tikijojo's settings. Also on LIVE FREE or DIE HARD on a freeway scene with tall buildings in the background there is a little more black detail or dark detail with tikijojo's settings.

Both flesh tones looked the same or real close to me and also the color. Both these settings look good to me and I could watch either one. They are so alike it is hard to pick which to use.

I enjoy watching this little 42 inch entry level plasma. I am watching it using a Sony BDP 550 Blu-ray player.

Thanks for all the hard work on this forum everybody has put in so others like me can ride on there shirt tails and enjoy. Just think all we have to do it dial in the settings and enjoy.

There is nothing really wrong with any of the settings people have posted I just like these for my old eyes.

Again thanks, Kenny
post #844 of 1416
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Originally Posted by Kenny Brant View Post

I set up my 42b450 with tikijojo's and bobbyy9's settings and switched back and forth between them as one is set for standard and one is set for movie.

tikijojo's setting has just a hair more detail in the faces, but you have to look close to see them. I paused a frame where James T. Kirk and Spock are face to face just before Kirk took over the ship in the Star Trek 2009 movie. I was looking at Kirk's cut between his eye brows and that is what I used to compare.

You can see just a little more detail in the cut on tikijojo's settings. Also on LIVE FREE or DIE HARD on a freeway scene with tall buildings in the background there is a little more black detail or dark detail with tikijojo's settings.

Both flesh tones looked the same or real close to me and also the color. Both these settings look good to me and I could watch either one. They are so alike it is hard to pick which to use.

I enjoy watching this little 42 inch entry level plasma. I am watching it using a Sony BDP 550 Blu-ray player.

Thanks for all the hard work on this forum everybody has put in so others like me can ride on there shirt tails and enjoy. Just think all we have to do it dial in the settings and enjoy.

There is nothing really wrong with any of the settings people have posted I just like these for my old eyes.

Again thanks, Kenny

Any chance you can post some pictures of said scenes?

Just as a tip to anyone looking to take pictures of their sets - Use a manual mode and set the white balance to cloudy on your camera. That will give the closest to the color temperature (6500K) to best capture what you're seeing.

I WILL get my settings up tonight.
post #845 of 1416
here my settings for my plasma samsung pn42b450
mode:movie
warm2
cell light: 8
contrast:72
brightness:54
color:44
sharpness:5
tint:g51/r49
dynamic contrastff
black levelff
gamma:-2
color space: auto
white balance:
r offset:24
g offset:25
b offset:27
r gain:39
g gain:25
b gain:20
flesh tone:0
edge enhancement: off
size:16/9
digital nrff
eco mode: off
film mode: auto
my settings are for hdmi: sat standard and dvd standard:720p
blu ray disc and hd channels:1080i
post #846 of 1416
did any one try the most recent settings i posted? Kenny were you using my earlier ones or my latest ones?
post #847 of 1416
I stole them from cnet but they are much better than the ones i posted originally
post #848 of 1416
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Originally Posted by dallows View Post

Any chance you can post some pictures of said scenes?

Just as a tip to anyone looking to take pictures of their sets - Use a manual mode and set the white balance to cloudy on your camera. That will give the closest to the color temperature (6500K) to best capture what you're seeing.

I WILL get my settings up tonight.

Dallows the problem with people taking pictures of their sets besides the camera is that everyone is most likely viewing the pictures on their computer monitors not the tv.
post #849 of 1416
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Originally Posted by bobbyy9 View Post

Dallows the problem with people taking pictures of their sets besides the camera is that everyone is most likely viewing the pictures on their computer monitors not the tv.

Yeah but it still gives you an idea. Just imo.
post #850 of 1416
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Originally Posted by stereomandan View Post

Update My colorometer was measuring red incorrectly, so I adjusted the meter, and created a new calibration. I am very happy with these. The adjustment focused on the greyscale (white balance), and now whites are a nice white, and dark areas are dark grey with little hint of any color skew.

Movie Mode, Warm 2 setting
Cell Light: 10
Contrast: 85
Brightness: 50 (this can vary from 48 to 52 depending on what input or source you are using)
Sharpness: 20 for standard definition content. I use 5 for HD content (Blu-Ray, or High Def Channels)
Color: 38
Tint: G42/R58

Advanced: Everything off or zero except:
Gamma: 0 (or -1 if you like)
Color Space: Auto

White Balance:
Red Offset: 21
Green Offset: 25
Blue Offset: 15
Red Gain: 25
Green Gain: 0
Blue Gain: 27

Dallows, can you tell me how this looks on your set?
EDIT: Tweaked a little more and now it's even better. New numbers have been updated above on 11-28-09 (white balance and Color)

Dan

I just bought the 50inch of this tv yesterday..and right out of the box i thought the pq was AMAZING....I applied your settings and now i am even more amazed(if possible?) thankyou!
post #851 of 1416
Current Settings:

Standard Mode

Cell Light = 10
Contrast = 70
Brightness = 49 (can go from 48-50, not a huge change)
Sharpness = 20 (I'm pretty sure this has no effect on HD content, say a blu ray rmovie, or anything over hdmi)
Color = 50
Tint = 50/50

Black Tone = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Off
Gamma -1 (no idea how I pulled this)
Color Space = Auto
White Bal = Default
Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhance = Off

Color Tone = Normal
HDMI Black Level = Low
post #852 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyy9 View Post

I found these on cnet there for the b650 but figured id try them anyways but they were exactly what i was looking for more light output while still being accurate..so im still waiting to try dallows but as of now..with all the different settings ive tryed i think i finally found the winner.

--Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Cell Light: 10
Contrast: 99
Brightness: 49 or 48 just have to try both
Sharpness: 0
Color: 48
Tint: G50/R50

Advanced settings submenu
Black tone: Off
Dynamic contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Color space: Auto
Flesh tone: 0
Edge enhancement: Off


White balance submenu
R-Offset: 25
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 25
G-Gain: 21
B-Gain: 21

Picture options submenu
Color tone: Warm2
Size: Screen Fit

these settings get the light output higher and right around the 40ft/lmbt my last settings i just found to dim unless i turned all lights off for a movie...HD cable they werent bright enough these are perfect have a bit more accurate colour and more detail..skin tones look better..there just better lol right now im watching a show on sid the kid (crosby) vs alexander the great (ovechkin) on TSNHD haha and i finally got that wow effect from my HD that ive been looking for.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyy9 View Post

did any one try the most recent settings i posted? Kenny were you using my earlier ones or my latest ones?



I used the settings you last posted.
post #853 of 1416
Standard Mode

Attachment 166991

Movie Mode

Attachment 166992

I don't know how to post the pictures to show up without using the attachment, help me out.
LL
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post #854 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by shibez View Post

I just bought the 50inch of this tv yesterday..and right out of the box i thought the pq was AMAZING....I applied your settings and now i am even more amazed(if possible?) thankyou!

Glad to help. Interesting to hear that my 42" settings also seem to improve on the out of box settings for the 50" as well.

I've been very happy with this plasma and have recommended it to many.

Enjoy the great picture!

Dan
post #855 of 1416
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post #856 of 1416
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Originally Posted by bbrossard View Post

I picked up the 42 inch version of this set on Friday to replace a LG LCD LH20. I didn't mind the LG, however, we watch a lot of OTA HD and the LG had no programming guide except for the title of what's on right now.

The Samsung LCD and Plasma TV's have much better guides built into them, so we went with this one.

Quite pleased so far with the quality for a budget set and the wife is happy with the better guide.

i was wondering if the 50inch version of this tv had a channel guide...i couldnt find one.

I know when you press "info" it says what is on and whats coming up next tho....which btw is very lovely...but no guide...am i missing something?
post #857 of 1416
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post #858 of 1416
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Originally Posted by bbrossard View Post

When you press the "CH LIST" button on the remote, it brings up a list of OTA channels and what's on currently. You can arrow over and it shows what's on the channels for the next few hours. From there, you can set up timers or press the info button to see information about the program.

It works quite nice.

Edit: You have to tune to the channel to see what's on to see the guide info every few hours.

oh yes i see it now(love it)...thankyou for telling me this we watch alot of OTA also
post #859 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by dallows View Post

Current Settings:

Standard Mode

Cell Light = 10
Contrast = 70
Brightness = 49 (can go from 48-50, not a huge change)
Sharpness = 20 (I'm pretty sure this has no effect on HD content, say a blu ray rmovie, or anything over hdmi)
Color = 50
Tint = 50/50

Black Tone = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Off
Gamma -1 (no idea how I pulled this)
Color Space = Auto
White Bal = Default
Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhance = Off

Color Tone = Normal
HDMI Black Level = Low

My settings are almost identical. I also found that standard mode looked a little better in my eyes.
post #860 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by joebloggs13 View Post

My settings are almost identical. I also found that standard mode looked a little better in my eyes.

Yeah, if you go way back in this thread you'll see where Dan's and my set are different. For some reason my Movie Mode doesn't match up and Standard actually looks closer to his Movie settings.

So we concluded that the sets can be that different even within the same model line.

My settings used to be slightly different but after the set acquired more hours things settled to basically the default Standard settings save for maybe Contrast - which I still have no idea how to calibrate for... Gamma.
post #861 of 1416
Tips from the Pioneer thread on taking pics.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5199
post #862 of 1416
on the samsung website it list the native resolution as 1366x768 but when i watch 720p content and press "info" on the sammy remote the resolution says 1280x720..are the specs on the website a lie?

PS I have the 50inch version of this model
post #863 of 1416
The resolution of this set is 1024x768 (stretched to a 16:9 aspect ratio). The 1280x720 being displayed on the set is the resolution of the content being played back.
post #864 of 1416
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Originally Posted by lastxcallforsin View Post

The resolution of this set is 1024x768 (stretched to a 16:9 aspect ratio). The 1280x720 being displayed on the set is the resolution of the content being played back.

are you sure its 1024x768? I have the 50 inch class...(i should have stated that in my other post)
post #865 of 1416
Oh, then yeah, your set should be 1366x768 but the resolution info shown on-screen is the source resolution.
post #866 of 1416
Just got my new 50B450 on Monday and must say Wow what a beautiful picture this set has. I was impressed with it in store but at home it's amazing. Got it at the local BB for a great price, almost didn't get it though as the salesman was really getting under my skin. All he wanted to do was push the more expensive sets and 1080p. I kept explaining to him that a set 10-12' from the unit and was not that concerned at 1080p. He kept wanting to tell me that I'll be able to see the difference and all. I was finally like just give me the set I want or I'll walk.

Started the breakin DVD last night and will runthat for a week or two before doing any tweaks to it but not sure how much better the picture will look as it already looks amazing. Plus this weekend I'm going to build the units new home. Current RP CRT is built into the wall so I need to take it out and rebuild everything but that will be a nice project and will let me make some modifications anyways.
post #867 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by LDouglasLJr View Post

Just got my new 50B450 on Monday and must say Wow what a beautiful picture this set has. I was impressed with it in store but at home it's amazing. Got it at the local BB for a great price, almost didn't get it though as the salesman was really getting under my skin. All he wanted to do was push the more expensive sets and 1080p. I kept explaining to him that a set 10-12' from the unit and was not that concerned at 1080p. He kept wanting to tell me that I'll be able to see the difference and all. I was finally like just give me the set I want or I'll walk.

Started the breakin DVD last night and will runthat for a week or two before doing any tweaks to it but not sure how much better the picture will look as it already looks amazing. Plus this weekend I'm going to build the units new home. Current RP CRT is built into the wall so I need to take it out and rebuild everything but that will be a nice project and will let me make some modifications anyways.

those sales guys can definitely be a pain...best thing to do is to do a ton of research online at home before you goto the store..then just go in and say you want what you want...NEVER ask the sales guy for "more info on this set" that's their cue to start selling you up...if you follow this advice the biggest pain will be the "guilt" you feel when you refuse the 2 year extended protection plan bla bla..
post #868 of 1416
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post #869 of 1416
Hi, i would like to ask a question...
i just bought samsung b450 26'' and i realized that it's stand (base) is not stedy. It can be mooved backwards and forward. Do u believe it's a real problem or this is the way it should be?
Pls answer if u can....
post #870 of 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by gechro View Post

Hi, i would like to ask a question...
i just bought samsung b450 26'' and i realized that it's stand (base) is not stedy. It can be mooved backwards and forward. Do u believe it's a real problem or this is the way it should be?
Pls answer if u can....

I have a 50" on the base and it's very shaky and crooked. I had to slide in some small pieces of plastic b/n the TV and the Swivel in order to level it off. I wouldn't worry too much about it, the picture more than makes up for this.
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