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post #481 of 569
4/27/09 at 1:35pm
but regardless, how do i change the reference frames?
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post #482 of 569
4/27/09 at 1:54pm
Change the Skip mode!!!

When i press skip, it needs to skip 10 min. Perfect!

But now i first need to fastfoward/rewined!??!?!? (Why!?)
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post #483 of 569
4/27/09 at 2:15pm
Oh and another thing is other files from that same season that have 9 reference frames play fine with the newer firmware. its only certain files in it and im not sure why.
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post #484 of 569
4/27/09 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Utan View Post

Than it is an unhandy feature?
I'm sure this was not the last time we have seen this question. May be, it would be better not to make a difference between play and enter at this point...

I see no problem with it staying the way it is. if you want everything to play in a folder, hilight the first file and press play. if you only want to play one file, press enter.

I would hate it if the enter button worked the same as the play button.
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post #485 of 569
4/27/09 at 4:20pm
I have upgraded to this firmware and now none of my 1080p files are working, they start playing but then the sound goes and the pictures stutters a lot and these files played fine on the other firmware release

Any ideas?
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post #486 of 569
4/27/09 at 4:36pm
Just to confirm I have checked this with all my 1080p files and none are working now, regardless if they have the subtitles on or off and to confirm these files all used to play fine before the upgrade, and most of my files are 1080p all the others and 720p files play fine. Any one else having this problem?

Any ideas?

Guys at WD please can you look into this major bug as this wasnt happening before!

Thanks
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post #487 of 569
4/27/09 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by cutthatcity View Post

but regardless, how do i change the reference frames?

Recode the whole thing again. Since the quality will inevitably drop if you recode the already encoded file, it makes more sense to rip the disc again, provided you own it.

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Originally Posted by cutthatcity View Post

Oh and another thing is other files from that same season that have 9 reference frames play fine with the newer firmware. its only certain files in it and im not sure why.

The number of reference frames the WD TV-HD can handle depends on the resolution of the file.

http://wdtv.wetpaint.com/page/H.264+...e+frames+specs
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post #488 of 569
4/27/09 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by DrClawn View Post

Just to confirm I have checked this with all my 1080p files and none are working now, regardless if they have the subtitles on or off and to confirm these files all used to play fine before the upgrade, and most of my files are 1080p all the others and 720p files play fine. Any one else having this problem?

Any ideas?

Guys at WD please can you look into this major bug as this wasnt happening before!

Thanks

It isnt something Wd has to look into as it isnt happening to everyone.......We do need more information from you...

Are you getting any specific error message?
Have you tried hard resetting you WD?

You should also post the mediainfo txt file so that people can analyze the ines that will not play.....
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post #489 of 569
4/27/09 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by DrClawn View Post

Just to confirm I have checked this with all my 1080p files and none are working now, regardless if they have the subtitles on or off and to confirm these files all used to play fine before the upgrade, and most of my files are 1080p all the others and 720p files play fine. Any one else having this problem?

Any ideas?

Guys at WD please can you look into this major bug as this wasnt happening before!

Thanks

Maybe you could try rolling back to a previous firmware to confirm that the issue goes away?
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post #490 of 569
4/27/09 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by high_definitely View Post

Recode the whole thing again. Since the quality will inevitably drop if you recode the already encoded file, it makes more sense to rip the disc again, provided you own it.



The number of reference frames the WD TV-HD can handle depends on the resolution of the file.

http://wdtv.wetpaint.com/page/H.264+...e+frames+specs


they are all the same resolution though. and some play fine within the same files and some dont.



Ok another question. i have since then downgraded to 1.02.00 and the files play alright, but ive noticed that certain files have minor lip synch files. like the sound is of by maybe 1/5th a second. would upgrading to the newest firmware fix this? have they improved .mkv playback in things like this?.. or would it make no difference? it still doesnt make sense to me that the older firmware plays those previously mentioned .mkv files fine while the new firmware doesnt...
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post #491 of 569
4/27/09 at 9:12pm
also according to that list it should handle the reference frames,

"x-1280 : all 720p labeled videos are fully compatible"

which would explain why they work fine.. but not why they dont work with the newer firmware. so perhaps its something else?
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post #492 of 569
4/27/09 at 9:14pm
oh another question.. im reading and i see some mentions about the sync issues coming from hdmi for sound + video... what if i used the av chords for sound and hdmi for video? would that fix anything? or would that make it worse? what should my audio settings on the wd tv and my tv be set for both of those situations?
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post #493 of 569
4/27/09 at 10:25pm
Here from Argentina. I would like to thank WD's Staff for their great job an attention to customers (specially to worldwide non-english community).

Subtitles are now just PERFECT!!! Really great!!

Thank you WD Team for such a nice and constant job!
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post #494 of 569
4/27/09 at 10:39pm
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Originally Posted by smrdelj View Post

Here from Argentina. I would like to thank WD's Staff for their great job an attention to customers (specially to worldwide non-english community).

Subtitles are now just PERFECT!!! Really great!!

Thank you WD Team for such a nice and constant job!

Are you talking about SD or HD content?
Cause everyone semms to have one issue or another regarding subtitles, thus you state that everything is perfect.
Can you please be a bit more specific?
Cheers
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post #495 of 569
4/28/09 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

Take for example, the HDD spindown that people have been begging for for months and months. For a long time there was speculation on the forums about whether there was some hardware limitation preventing the WDTV from sending the HDD's into sleep mode. If WD had confirmed months ago that this was actually possible, people would harass them every day asking when it would be addressed.

Of course they would cause there's no reason whatsoever not to have this feature from the beginning! I also don't see any reason why a "switched off" WD TV should continue sending signals over HDMI confusing some TVs handshake when switched on again. Of course I might not be tech savvy enough.

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Originally Posted by MrMod View Post

It is so rare to be able to provide feedback to hardware makers in such a direct way. Allowing avsforum members to test prereleases is simply awesome.

It's a shame people feel this way cause that should go without saying. After all WD wants to sell their stuff. Of course they could ignore this and do it like Iomega and be stuck with their crappy devices.

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Originally Posted by Utan View Post

I'm sure this was not the last time we have seen this question. May be, it would be better not to make a difference between play and enter at this point...

Maybe it would be better to read the manual before starting questions on the forum?
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post #496 of 569
4/28/09 at 4:57am
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Originally Posted by sda_gr View Post

Are you talking about SD or HD content?
Cause everyone semms to have one issue or another regarding subtitles, thus you state that everything is perfect.
Can you please be a bit more specific?
Cheers

Not everyone has the same requirements. What is perfect for 1 person may not be for another. There is nothing wrong with poeple saying Subs are perfect, becasue for some people they are...

THe majority of Sub issues I see now are cosmetic in nature. There are those that are requesting further support Arabic, Greek, and Hebrew that I can remember off the top of my head. There may be some other issues I am forgetting as well.

I have also seen reported and experienced the "flashing" subs (subs only flash on screen), on a few different movies, but others are just fine. For me this is minor, and can most likely wait, but for some this issue could be a deal breaker.
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post #497 of 569
4/28/09 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by DrClawn View Post

Just to confirm I have checked this with all my 1080p files and none are working now, regardless if they have the subtitles on or off and to confirm these files all used to play fine before the upgrade, and most of my files are 1080p all the others and 720p files play fine. Any one else having this problem?

Any ideas?

Guys at WD please can you look into this major bug as this wasnt happening before!

Thanks

Hi! I have the same problem, I posted here a few pages back. All 1080p files are stuttering and no sound. I did some tests, and I think is a subtitle application problem, because when I turn subtitles off, the problem doesn't happen.

I downgraded to firmware 1.01.02 and all files played fine. In 1.02.06 and 1.02.07, the problem happens.

I hope WD is checking this, for fix in the next firmware release.
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post #498 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

I have also seen reported and experienced the "flashing" subs (subs only flash on screen), on a few different movies, but others are just fine. For me this is minor, and can most likely wait, but for some this issue could be a deal breaker.

Correction! The problem with the Greek "flashing" subs appears on all movies and not on some movies.
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post #499 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by sda_gr View Post

Are you talking about SD or HD content?
Cause everyone semms to have one issue or another regarding subtitles, thus you state that everything is perfect.
Can you please be a bit more specific?
Cheers

Yes, of course, I'll be much more specific now!

First of all, I'm talking about HD content (but always 720p). I haven't tryed 1080p material with this new firmware because my TV isn't Full HD, so with 720p is quite enough for my display (LCD Samsung 32'' at 1366x768).

Here's an example:

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Si
Format settings, ReFrames : 8marcos
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate : 5 112Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 235Kbps
Width : 1 280pixeles
Height : 528pixeles
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23,976fps
Resolution : 24bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progresivo
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.316
Stream size : 4,97GIB (82%)
Title : Spiderman 3
Writing library : x264 core 56 svn-680
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=8,8 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=5235 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.7:12.0
Language : Inglés

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate mode : Constante
Bit rate : 384Kbps
Channel(s) : 6canales
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0KHz
Stream size : 382MB (6%)
Title : Audio español
Language : Español

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate mode : Constante
Bit rate : 640Kbps
Channel(s) : 6canales
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0KHz
Stream size : 637MB (10%)
Title : Audio inglÃs
Language : Inglés

Texto #1
ID : 4
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title : SubtÃ*tulos español
Language : Español

Texto #2
ID : 5
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title : SubtÃ*tulos inglés
Language : Inglés
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post #500 of 569
4/28/09 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by smrdelj View Post

Yes, of course, I'll be much more specific now!

First of all, I'm talking about HD content (but always 720p). I haven't tryed 1080p material with this new firmware because my TV isn't Full HD, so with 720p is quite enough for my display (LCD Samsung 32'' at 1366x768).

Here's an example:

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Si
Format settings, ReFrames : 8marcos
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate : 5 112Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 235Kbps
Width : 1 280pixeles
Height : 528pixeles
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23,976fps
Resolution : 24bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progresivo
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.316
Stream size : 4,97GIB (82%)
Title : Spiderman 3
Writing library : x264 core 56 svn-680
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=8,8 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=5235 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.7:12.0
Language : Inglés

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate mode : Constante
Bit rate : 384Kbps
Channel(s) : 6canales
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0KHz
Stream size : 382MB (6%)
Title : Audio español
Language : Español

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 19min.
Bit rate mode : Constante
Bit rate : 640Kbps
Channel(s) : 6canales
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0KHz
Stream size : 637MB (10%)
Title : Audio inglÃs
Language : Inglés

Texto #1
ID : 4
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title : SubtÃ*tulos español
Language : Español

Texto #2
ID : 5
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title : SubtÃ*tulos inglés
Language : Inglés

Thank you
Do you have the same results with external subtitles? (eg. srt)

Cheers
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post #501 of 569
4/28/09 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by GregoryG View Post

Correction! The problem with the Greek "flashing" subs appears on all movies and not on some movies.

This is a misleading conclusion...I have an mkv with 15 embedded subtitle streams, one of which is greek and IT DOESN'T flash...the only flashing subtitles for me are idx/sub...
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post #502 of 569
4/28/09 at 11:33am
everyone that uses subs a lot will realise that subs on the wdtv is nowhere near perfect. most of the flashing subs problems come from overlapping subs and having 2 sets of subs on screen at the same time where on the wdtv these features are not included in the wdtv subs app. these features really should be easy to fix as there is lots documentation on the net on subs(ass,srt etc) they can even check open source players like vlc if they like.
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post #503 of 569
4/28/09 at 11:34am
Repeat BUG

Repeat function in the main menu doesn't work.

When you select repeat when movie is playing it works perfect.
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post #504 of 569
4/28/09 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by mytbyte View Post

This is a misleading conclusion...I have an mkv with 15 embedded subtitle streams, one of which is greek and IT DOESN'T flash...the only flashing subtitles for me are idx/sub...

Have you tried to see the film with those greek subs, having previously selected greek (iso) as the additional encoding support in options?
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post #505 of 569
4/28/09 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by realm View Post

Repeat BUG

Repeat function in the main menu doesn't work.

When you select repeat when movie is playing it works perfect.

*Sigh*
Have you tried to play the film(s) by pressing "play" instead of "enter"?
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post #506 of 569
4/28/09 at 7:04pm
there seems to be more noticeable judder in 24p playback in .07, as compared to the previous prerelease.

perhaps its due to higher quality subtitle rendering in the .07 firmware
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post #507 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:09pm
so i changed it to use the red and white cables for audio instead of the hdmi cable and it made the voice sync better. anyone know why this is? prettty weird.
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post #508 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:12pm
hello, can someone confirm whether WD has implemented tag support for the subtitle files in this new firmware, like italics and such?
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post #509 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:19pm
I have these issues after upgraded to FW 1.02.07:
- TS videos played but NO SOUNDS!
- TS videos in 16:9 won't display right
Those videos worked fine with FW 1.02.06

I will downgrade mine to FW 1.02.06
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post #510 of 569
4/28/09 at 8:44pm
GuyWD

Outline with Image Subtitle sub/idx Please Fixed...

Regards.
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