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post #31 of 110
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

I talked to an internet friend that has played it for several hours and he said "it's so-so at best", not even close to being as good as Infamous. He said it is very similar to Crackdown with character upgrades and objects like orbs to find hidden through the city. His final comment about it was that it's like Hulk:UD + Crackdown only not as good as either of those.

* almost forgot... annoying camera

Jason


odd that he would say that...

aside from the lightning and story, they're almost the same game. i would even go as far to say that everything you can do in infamous, you can do in prototype.(and more) a lot of forums i've been to say that this game is awesome. i can't wait to play it myself.
post #32 of 110
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Originally Posted by Myth View Post

odd that he would say that...

aside from the lightning and story, they're almost the same game. i would even go as far to say that everything you can do in infamous, you can do in prototype.(and more) a lot of forums i've been to say that this game is awesome. i can't wait to play it myself.

They are not even close to being the same game.
Infamous is a shooter at heart set in a open world, while Prototype is
from what I can tell a beat-em up in a open world.
While they may sound alot alike they really arent.

And the side missions/free roam aspect of Prototype
appear to be just more mindless destruction for the most part
while Infamous's side missions have actual goals beyond mayhem - spying, finding dead drops, resyncing satelite upinks via races, helping police, rescuing people.

And as far as forum reviews go - my problem with them is that people tend to make up their minds as soon as a game is announced that a game is either "amazing!!! awesome!!!" or "pure garbage" "not even worth a rental".
And typically no amount of evidence whether it be videos, reviews or even playing the game wil sway 90% of these peoples opinion.

The gamefaqs Prototype 360 board is a prime example. Pointing out even
legitimate flaws in the game will result in literally dozens of fanboys jumping to
the games rescue - the vast majority of whom havent played it.

P.S.
It seems to me that if mindless destruction is enough to keep you occupied then Prototype will
probably will be great for you. I am not sure it will do it for me.

And I would like to add that AVS is NOT one of the forums where opinions are
predetermined and unchangeable in the face of evidence. I visit several different
forums and felt the need to vent.
post #33 of 110
Watching the preview I think they named the game wrong. It should have been called "God Mode".
post #34 of 110
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Originally Posted by HorrorScope View Post

Watching the preview I think they named the game wrong. It should have been called "God Mode".

I pretty much agree. It's great to see a game with such a powerful character, but it almost seems like they give you too much power. Seems like there's no challenge. I am pegging this for a mediocre game. We'll see how it turns out with more reviews. I played a demo for infamous and was happy with that, I've ordered it. Prototype needs a demo really, that they don't have one may tell you something.
post #35 of 110
For those who are interested Toys r us is giving a $20.00 gift card with purchase this week. In store only.
post #36 of 110
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Originally Posted by Yrd View Post

I pretty much agree. It's great to see a game with such a powerful character, but it almost seems like they give you too much power. Seems like there's no challenge. I am pegging this for a mediocre game. We'll see how it turns out with more reviews. I played a demo for infamous and was happy with that, I've ordered it. Prototype needs a demo really, that they don't have one may tell you something.

Yeah I don't mean it as too bad of a thing. It looks sort of like giving a kid a bowl of ice cream topped with carmel, sugar and cafine. It's like a blow-em-up, physics bonaza! Possibly something you would love to do in your favorite game from time to time, but this has it all the time. Too much of a good thing? Maybe. But it will at least be fun for a while!
post #37 of 110
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Originally Posted by Yrd View Post

I pretty much agree. It's great to see a game with such a powerful character, but it almost seems like they give you too much power. Seems like there's no challenge. I am pegging this for a mediocre game. We'll see how it turns out with more reviews. I played a demo for infamous and was happy with that, I've ordered it. Prototype needs a demo really, that they don't have one may tell you something.


since when is having a lot of power not fun? why does there need to be a challenge? i think anyone who ever played crackdown can agree that it no challenge. it was just fun throughout, and after a short while, you became unstoppable. there doesn't need to be a challenge in games like these for them to be fun and enjoyable. crackdowns story was god awful. i'll take fun over challenging any day...aside from sports titles
post #38 of 110
my buddy who downloaded it says it's great fun. I'll pick it up come wednesday.
post #39 of 110
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

my buddy who downloaded it says it's great fun. I'll pick it up come wednesday.

A demo is out?
post #40 of 110
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Originally Posted by mboojigga View Post

A demo is out?

Yeah I think thats important. I think the demo was what really sold Crackdown more then anything. If it wasnt for that demo (and the halo beta) a lot of people would not have looked at Crackdown. If prototype is that same kind of fun they need to get that demo out but then they needed to do that before launch and the pro reviews come in and gives it a 7 or 8 (yeah those are good scores but a lot of people treat anything below 9 to be crp....they miss a lot o good games).
post #41 of 110
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Originally Posted by AHDTVDiet View Post

Yeah I think thats important. I think the demo was what really sold Crackdown more then anything. If it wasnt for that demo (and the halo beta) a lot of people would not have looked at Crackdown. If prototype is that same kind of fun they need to get that demo out but then they needed to do that before launch and the pro reviews come in and gives it a 7 or 8 (yeah those are good scores but a lot of people treat anything below 9 to be crp....they miss a lot o good games).

Well the game is released today, so there's no way that's going to happen.

And a review embargo + no demo = usually a mediocre game at best. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but I'm holding off until I see at least SOME reviews.
post #42 of 110
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

Well the game is released today, so there's no way that's going to happen.

And a review embargo + no demo = usually a mediocre game at best. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but I'm holding off until I see at least SOME reviews.

I think the review embargo has more to do with trying not to get washed away in E3 news. A poster over at 1up.com asked a similar question and the person reviewing the game said he has had a review copy of the game before E3. He could not give a score, but he did say the game was good.

I think the marketing for Prototype has made it look like a shallower game than it really is.
post #43 of 110
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

I think the review embargo has more to do with trying not to get washed away in E3 news. A poster over at 1up.com asked a similar question and the person reviewing the game said he has had a review copy of the game before E3. He could not give a score, but he did say the game was good.

I think the marketing for Prototype has made it look like a shallower game than it really is.

If that were the case they could have allowed reviews before E3 happened. Or just after E3 ended. Of course the hype of a game released right after E3 is going to be diminished, but simply not allowing reviews until *2 days after* the game is released is a bad sign no matter how they want to try and spin it.
post #44 of 110
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

If that were the case they could have allowed reviews before E3 happened. Or just after E3 ended. Of course the hype of a game released right after E3 is going to be diminished, but simply not allowing reviews until *2 days after* the game is released is a bad sign no matter how they want to try and spin it.

You mean during the time reviewers would be gearing up for there E3 coverage? Putting a game out during E3 is tricky so I do not see anything wrong with an embargo to try keep your game above the fray. Today most of the sites are still putting up impressions and responding to news from E3.
post #45 of 110
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Originally Posted by AHDTVDiet View Post

Yeah I think thats important. I think the demo was what really sold Crackdown more then anything. If it wasnt for that demo (and the halo beta) a lot of people would not have looked at Crackdown. If prototype is that same kind of fun they need to get that demo out but then they needed to do that before launch and the pro reviews come in and gives it a 7 or 8 (yeah those are good scores but a lot of people treat anything below 9 to be crp....they miss a lot o good games).

See, for me the demo is exactly what convinced me NOT to buy Crackdown. There's only what, 4 bosses? I killed two in just 10 minutes or whatever it is on the demo. And is there even a plot? Yeah, there were fun parts, but then it was just the same boring jump/run all over the map.

Now, if Crackdown 2 has monsters and some really good battles and some challenge in it, THAT I might be interested in.

Prototype looks like some fun, but again... for how long?
post #46 of 110
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

You mean during the time reviewers would be gearing up for there E3 coverage? Putting a game out during E3 is tricky so I do not see anything wrong with an embargo to try keep your game above the fray. Today most of the sites are still putting up impressions and responding to news from E3.

I think this E3 smokescreen is getting old. They have had the review code for weeks, it would take a day to finish the game. They made an embargo to hide the scores, there is no other way to explan it.

A translation of this:

http://www.gamereactor.se/blog/petter/


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"Apparently there's a great anticipation for Prototype. A lot of people that have written to our mailbox have waited with buying inFamous to see if Prototype is the better game. Activision forbids us to talk about grades before Thursday, but I figured I'd hint about my impressions today. I completely understand why Activision didn't want any grades of Prototype to be published before the release date. Prototype reeks of a mushy swamp."
post #47 of 110
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

See, for me the demo is exactly what convinced me NOT to buy Crackdown. There's only what, 4 bosses? I killed two in just 10 minutes or whatever it is on the demo. And is there even a plot? Yeah, there were fun parts, but then it was just the same boring jump/run all over the map.

Now, if Crackdown 2 has monsters and some really good battles and some challenge in it, THAT I might be interested in.

Prototype looks like some fun, but again... for how long?

I think your thinking of the mini bosses. There are about four mini bosses per island on Crackdown with one big boss per island.
post #48 of 110
Well I guess I'll be picking up inFamous, I was holding to see if this game could compete and it looked like it could. But seems that with all of this review embargo bull*hit this game probably sucks, see the kane and lynch or tomb raider fiascoes. Nothing good ever comes from these review manipulations, if the game is a hit there would be no problem letting out of the gate in the middle of apocalypse it'll get the attention it deserves. Here you can see they are trying to build undo attention with this nonsense review embargo.
post #49 of 110
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

I think your thinking of the mini bosses. There are about four mini bosses per island on Crackdown with one big boss per island.

should be 7 mini bosses per island, and a main boss.

also, in the demo your leveling is extremely accelerated.... crackdown is one of the best games this generation, anyone who thinks otherwise just didn't give it a chance.... and they're missing out.
post #50 of 110
many gamestops are receiving and releasing the game today.
post #51 of 110
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

See, for me the demo is exactly what convinced me NOT to buy Crackdown. There's only what, 4 bosses? I killed two in just 10 minutes or whatever it is on the demo. And is there even a plot? Yeah, there were fun parts, but then it was just the same boring jump/run all over the map.

Now, if Crackdown 2 has monsters and some really good battles and some challenge in it, THAT I might be interested in.

Prototype looks like some fun, but again... for how long?

All I know is it was the most played item on xbox live for a long time which is pretty impressive for a demo and if even part of those numbers transfer over then they got a big sales boost out of it. Until then people were barely aware of the game...except that it may have Halo beta codes on it.
post #52 of 110
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Originally Posted by StygianHD View Post


And I would like to add that AVS is NOT one of the forums where opinions are
predetermined and unchangeable in the face of evidence. I visit several different
forums and felt the need to vent.

This is one of the reasons that I like to come here about gaming (along with the original HT reasons)

A mature discussion that does not degrade into a flame war with minimal fanboyisim.

I've been around long enough to know where on the internet you can go and have realistic, thoughtful discussion about things. AVS is one of those places.

It seems that those of us posting here generally bring our maturity to the keyboard.

I just wish I had more time for gaming- and I'm contemplating getting back into Falcon 4 AF (a bad move from the time killer perspective...)
post #53 of 110
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

You mean during the time reviewers would be gearing up for there E3 coverage? Putting a game out during E3 is tricky so I do not see anything wrong with an embargo to try keep your game above the fray. Today most of the sites are still putting up impressions and responding to news from E3.

Sorry, but what do reviewers have to do to "gear up" for E3 coverage? Other than wait for E3?
post #54 of 110
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

Sorry, but what do reviewers have to do to "gear up" for E3 coverage? Other than wait for E3?

articles don't write themselves. I assume that is what the reviewer time is spent on pre-E3. not to mention the games that are still being released pre-E3 that they still must review. So they have their normal workload and throw the E3 extravaganza on top of that which includes making travel plans, probably a ridiculous amounts of meetings which consist of planning which team members will visit each event at the show and write about it.

knowing some editors/journalists I hear often how they also have to assist or completely do the story layout and art, not to mention web content.
post #55 of 110
Game is pretty fun, side mission are not that great, just races or finding people to absorb, main story is alright. I would not say it is god mode since I have died plenty when getting swarmed by very stong infected people and shot by rockets but you def have superior abilities that make people with guns wastes of time.
post #56 of 110
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Originally Posted by truck-a-sauras View Post

articles don't write themselves. I assume that is what the reviewer time is spent on pre-E3. not to mention the games that are still being released pre-E3 that they still must review. So they have their normal workload and throw the E3 extravaganza on top of that which includes making travel plans, probably a ridiculous amounts of meetings which consist of planning which team members will visit each event at the show and write about it.

knowing some editors/journalists I hear often how they also have to assist or completely do the story layout and art, not to mention web content.

Sorry, but articles don't need to be written PRE-E3, as the news all happens AT E3. And if the argument is that they can't review games before E3 happens because they're too busy with other games they have to review, that makes no sense.

I can understand not being able to review a game that review copies go out during E3, but when stuff like that happens up to a month before the release I can't see that being the problem with Prototype.

And remember, 99 times out of 100 an embargo on reviews for anything (games or movies) means the item being reviewed will not live up to expectations. That's why there were no review screenings of Terminator this summer.
post #57 of 110
I've been hearing so much about Crackdown lately and wondering why I never tried it. Thank you, this forum, for reminding me there is a demo. Just tried it and it was pretty bloody fun.
I remember Brad Shoemaker, from GiantBomb, mentioning in their pre-E3 podcast that he was hoping to receive their review-copy of Prototype that Friday so he could play it during the weekend. And a few days later updated that it arrived while they were away at E3. Maybe lots of sites are in this situation. But I still remain skeptical.
Every video I watch of Prototype screams my kind of fun. How could that sort of mayhem be bad? Only lots of bugs, bad camera or bad controls could screw it up and given its development cycle I'd be surprised if those issues remain. So I'm still really looking forward to it but waiting on a purchase to hear some informed opinions.
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Originally Posted by Sunkist View Post

Game is pretty fun, side mission are not that great, just races or finding people to absorb, main story is alright. I would not say it is god mode since I have died plenty when getting swarmed by very strong infected people and shot by rockets but you def have superior abilities that make people with guns wastes of time.

What platform did you play it on and how long did you get with it. Prototype isn't showing on your gamercard so I'm guessing pirated on PC?
post #58 of 110
Yeah, I bummed there are no reviews of this game. I was looking forward in getting a new game since there's been a drought. However, I want to read some reviews before I drop the bucks on this...

Definitely not a good sign.
post #59 of 110
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Originally Posted by Sorax View Post


What platform did you play it on and how long did you get with it. Prototype isn't showing on your gamercard so I'm guessing pirated on PC?

I played on 360, I have 2 since I play lots of system link games and my main TV died (bulb out on the DLP) so until I get that fixed tomorrow I was playing on my other 360 with my non-gold account.
post #60 of 110
Some stores do indeed have it today, but you might want to call first .

Jason
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