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post #31 of 442
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Originally Posted by dasx86 View Post

I'm looking at this TV for my living room, which is rather small so a 32" would be perfect. I do a fair bit of Xbox 360 gaming however, so I am concerned with input lag.

Can anyone chime in on this subject? I know on some of the 550/650 models, you can disable picture processing on HDMI2 by labeling it PC, which reduces input lag dramatically. VGA is equally fast too, due to lack of processing. I could use either of these inputs for the 360. Any comments?

I'm getting mine tomorrow so I can tell you tomorrow night.
post #32 of 442
It has game mode. I have not looked into HDMI/PC2 on this set. I am tempted to test the input lag on this set and compare it to my results on the LN46A650.

I'm knee deep in a HTPC/WDTV project so I probably wont mess with this until I wrap some of that up.

Edit: BTW the stand is perfectly level and after watching it more over the past few days I am even more happy with it's SD performance. My Comcast cable (using QAM tuner; no STB) looks better than I expected. I was going to get a HD STB box for it but after watching it the past few days I think I may put that off.
post #33 of 442
Actually, since this is 720P and my laptop does 720P via HDMI and VGA, I may test this over the next few days. If it was 1080P, I would have to use my primary CPU or HTPC (which are both tied up with the other project).
post #34 of 442
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Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

Edit: BTW the stand is perfectly level and after watching it more over the past few days I am even more happy with it's SD performance. My Comcast cable (using QAM tuner; no STB) looks better than I expected. I was going to get a HD STB box for it but after watching it the past few days I think I may put that off.

Thanks. Looks like Samsung fixed the tilt that the A450 stands had. Hmm. I wonder if the B460 stands will work with the A450 TVs.
post #35 of 442
I've watched a little TV on this now and have to say the picture is really good but I'm noticing some bad ghosting. Has anyone else seen this?
post #36 of 442
Funny how people who own this and the A450 TVs seem to have ghosting problem. I have the A450 and don’t have any ghosting. Maybe, that S, A, C panel thing that people are talking about around here is true. Maybe some people here are ending up with the cheaper panels.
post #37 of 442
I just recently got the LN32B460. I do not notice any ghosting. the swivel base is level However this set suffers from the typical problems all HDTV's have with displaying SD. IT just has that overprocessed look like theres not enough signal to fill it up. some stations are much better than others in SD. HD is flawless. (Cox Cable with on-board TV tuner). I find this set much sharper and has a wider viewing angle and better colors than my less than a year-old 37" 720p Insignia. No problem with the 720P with this bedroom set. 1080P would be a definite waste on a 32" bedroom TV never to be used as a PC monitor unless the cost is comparable IMO.
post #38 of 442
I was watching LOST on SciFiHD and Smallville on CWHD, and both shows had ghosting. Should I try for a replacement?
post #39 of 442
You had ghosting with HD?

Any chance you could post a couple pictures? I'm curious as to what you are actually seeing.
post #40 of 442
I doubt there's anyway I could catch it on camera. Basically if people moved I could see a ghost trail (very very faintly) as they moved.
post #41 of 442
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

I doubt there's anyway I could catch it on camera. Basically if people moved I could see a ghost trail (very very faintly) as they moved.

Sounds like motion blur? not ghosting. Ghosting would happen even on static images.

Two different things... and motion blur is somewhat inherent in LCD's due to the current technology. It is what the 120+ Hz sets attempt to address (that and a better pulldown for 24hz).
post #42 of 442
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Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

and motion blur is somewhat inherent in LCD's due to the current technology. It is what the 120+ Hz sets attempt to address (that and a better pulldown for 24hz).

My cousin's Sony Bravia is 120hz and the motion blur looks worse on his TV than it does on my 60hz Sammy TV. So, I don't think 120hz means less motion blur.
post #43 of 442
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Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

Sounds like motion blur? not ghosting. Ghosting would happen even on static images.

Um, no.
post #44 of 442
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

I've watched a little TV on this now and have to say the picture is really good but I'm noticing some bad ghosting. Has anyone else seen this?

I've heard this is an issue with this set. Maybe exchange it for a dif model [IMG]http://www.entertainment-place.info/smile/img/2659/*************************[/IMG]
post #45 of 442
I watched the Series finale of Prison Break tonight (in HD) and turned off all features like DNR, dynamic contrast, edge enhancement and did not notice the ghosting tonight. I need to watch more but hopefully one of those do it for me. The picture on this set is superb and I hate to take it back if I can help it.
post #46 of 442
I just picked up the LN26B460 last night from Best Buy and so far I am very happy with my purchase. I am going to try last years cnet calibration setting from the A model and see if that makes much of a difference. Speakers do not sound horrible either. No complaints yet.
post #47 of 442
Hi, i am chosing between buying a a450 or a b460.
Can anyone give an opinion about this ?
Does the B460 have Picture in picture ? does this function really helps ?

Thanks.
post #48 of 442
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Originally Posted by grodrig View Post

Hi, i am chosing between buying a a450 or a b460.
Can anyone give an opinion about this ?
Does the B460 have Picture in picture ? does this function really helps ?

Thanks.

The user guide has already been posted.
You can decide on which one you want by reading over member's posts on both sets and then make your own conclusion
post #49 of 442
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Originally Posted by grodrig View Post

Does the B460 have Picture in picture ? does this function really helps ?

Picture in picture, IMHO, is way overrated. I have people who claim my TV is awful despite its great picture because it doesn't have PIP. Whatever! Anyways, PIP only works if you use the TV's ATSC or QAM tuner. If you use HD cable, then you'll need a STB that has that feature and most don't have it. But like I said, PIP is overrated. Most people usually watch only one program at a time. I can't see myself simultaneously watching two channels at once.

But I'm sure the B460 is better than the A450 because newer models tend to be better, especially in terms of contrast ratio. The B460 is 50,000:1 while the A450 is only 10,000:1.
post #50 of 442
I watched "Quantum of Solace" on BD last night, and the picture is fantastic! I'm definitely keeping it.

Is anyone using a Logitech Harmony with this TV? I'm having issues switching inputs.
post #51 of 442
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Originally Posted by Otto2 View Post

I just picked up the LN26B460 last night from Best Buy and so far I am very happy with my purchase. I am going to try last years cnet calibration setting from the A model and see if that makes much of a difference. Speakers do not sound horrible either. No complaints yet.

I tried the cnet's #'s from the A model yesterday and the picture was terrible to me. Very dark and colors washed out. The default standard setting has a fantastic picture so I just reset it back to that. Still very happy with this tv and am always looking forward to watching it.
post #52 of 442
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Originally Posted by Otto2 View Post

I tried the cnet's #'s from the A model yesterday and the picture was terrible to me. Very dark and colors washed out. The default standard setting has a fantastic picture so I just reset it back to that. Still very happy with this tv and am always looking forward to watching it.

The default setting on Samsung's TVs usually have the Backlight and Contrast higher than their supposed to be. So, that "fantastic" picture is actually a very inaccurate picture. You should spend some time calibrating it. First step is to lower the backlight and contrast.
post #53 of 442
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Originally Posted by Odysseus18 View Post

Um, no.

What was referred to as "ghosting" (predominately from analog signals... i.e. cable, OTA) is not the same as motion blur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_blur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosting_(television)

Ghosting
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post #54 of 442
I baught this TV last week and so far I love it. Originally I got the B360, but when the 460 went on sale I BB I exchanged it. Way better IMO.
post #55 of 442
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Originally Posted by xraffle View Post

My cousin's Sony Bravia is 120hz and the motion blur looks worse on his TV than it does on my 60hz Sammy TV. So, I don't think 120hz means less motion blur.

http://pages.samsung.com/us/hd/innov_120hz.html

120hz used in conjunction with additional processing is used to reduce motion blur.

Samsung calls it Auto Motion Plus (AMP).
Sony calls it Motion Flow.
post #56 of 442
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Originally Posted by xraffle View Post

The default setting on Samsung's TVs usually have the Backlight and Contrast higher than their supposed to be. So, that "fantastic" picture is actually a very inaccurate picture. You should spend some time calibrating it. First step is to lower the backlight and contrast.


Well the picture looks good to me, inaccurate or not. Dont know why I would dim the picture when I like it how it is now.
post #57 of 442
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Originally Posted by tomwilli View Post

Has anyone done the firmware update for the 32B460? I noticed it on the Samsung website but it doesn't mention the changes.

bump
post #58 of 442
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Originally Posted by pdenton View Post

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LN32B460 firmware ver.1013 (ver.1013)
build date : 2009-04-16 firmware ver.1013

* The firmware will correct the following phenomenons some units may experience.

- If customer turns unit off and back on,

. he loses his channels

. the TV displays ''Weak or no signal''

. the cable system''s setting always changes from ''HRC'' to ''STD'' though he set it to ''HRC'' before

- The problem happens at the region where the cable system is ''HRC'' or ''IRC''


* The firmware will be updated to the following version. ''ver 1013.0''


* Please be sure to read the instruction before beginning the update process.
post #59 of 442
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Originally Posted by Otto2 View Post

Dont know why I would dim the picture when I like it how it is now.

So you can adjust the picture to the way the director intended the viewer to see it.
post #60 of 442
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Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

http://pages.samsung.com/us/hd/innov_120hz.html

120hz used in conjunction with additional processing is used to reduce motion blur.

Samsung calls it Auto Motion Plus (AMP).
Sony calls it Motion Flow.

You're looking at Samsung's advertisement and you believe it. I compared both my 60hz TV with my cousin's 120hz and I saw the difference with my very own eyes. But you don't believe me. Fine!! I suppose you buy Monster HDMI cables with your TV because their advertisements claim that their cables offer the best picture quality.
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