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post #1591 of 6328
9/4/09 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by dagostino View Post

hi,

I am not using analogues or audyssey dsx and dolby pliiz I am using HDMI from Blu ray to DVDO VP50pro to Receiver out to projector still the sound is better 51 then 320.

About the picture see form yourself I am send you some picture from the 51
This photos was take by iphone .

THANKS

let me get this straight - you are saying that the audio is better from the pioneer 51 over hdmi than in the 320?

The majority concensus is that lossless audio (whether bitstreamed or decoded to lpcm) is identical amongst all players. I personally am not in that camp, but have never heard a difference between the 320 and 51 over hdmi. I will readily admit there is a difference for two channel music.
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post #1592 of 6328
9/4/09 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by novasol View Post

Don't know about direct internet download, but I just updated using disc and it worked fine.

The firmware update v3.25 was available via direct internet download (LAN connection) approx. 1 week after the file appeared on Pioneer's website for download. I decided not to wait for v3.34a to be available via the LAN update process, and burned a disc this morning. Updating the player took about 5 minutes, with no issues.
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post #1593 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:02am
What's up guys.I haven't dropped by for a while.So I just read about new firmware 3.34.Can anyone tell me what exactly to expect from new update.
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post #1594 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by miamioutlaw04 View Post

What's up guys.I haven't dropped by for a while.So I just read about new firmware 3.34.Can anyone tell me what exactly to expect from new update.

My boot up time dropped from ~20secs to 9secs, unofficially, I just counted mississippi's
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post #1595 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by HDBones View Post

My boot up time dropped from ~20secs to 9secs, unofficially, I just counted mississippi's

Sounds good.Where did u get it from? Regular pioneer web page or the europe one i saw others use.And did u burn disc or ethernet.
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post #1596 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:18am
the regular us pioneer site. burned a cd.
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post #1597 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by HDBones View Post

the regular us pioneer site. burned a cd.

Thanks gonna do it when I get home. also do you have yours connected to computer.I am using 23fd and I was going to do that next.Do you have much experience with this?
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post #1598 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by miamioutlaw04 View Post

Thanks gonna do it when I get home. also do you have yours connected to computer.I am using 23fd and I was going to do that next.Do you have much experience with this?

I haven't plugged the ethernet in. I tried the home media stuff on my KURO and the software wasn't all that, was a pain to use. Not sure if its any different on the 320.
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post #1599 of 6328
9/4/09 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by HDBones View Post

I haven't plugged the ethernet in. I tried the home media stuff on my KURO and the software wasn't all that, was a pain to use. Not sure if its any different on the 320.

I have used my hmg with my sc07 and i liked it although internet radio did drop off after a while.But I connect my external hard drive to my receiver and am able to play all music through usb.This dosent work directly to 23fd via usb.Since I can't play movies on my reciever or bluray from my external hard drive I was wondering if I could play them directly from my computer via ethernet through 23 fd.

Anyone have experience with hmg?Is streaming from cumputer or watching movies stored in computer possible.
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post #1600 of 6328
9/4/09 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

let me get this straight - you are saying that the audio is better from the pioneer 51 over hdmi than in the 320?

The majority concensus is that lossless audio (whether bitstreamed or decoded to lpcm) is identical amongst all players. I personally am not in that camp, but have never heard a difference between the 320 and 51 over hdmi. I will readily admit there is a difference for two channel music.

I am not saying that its no good the sound of 320 but when you compare the sound of the 51 its much more bass .
I am saying this becuase I am perfect for sound and picture and my job is my hobby.

on picture when I compare with 320 to 51 its much impressed with the 51 then 320 and my eyes is eagle too.
I am tell you this becuase I was a small kid I always work with hifi and video
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post #1601 of 6328
9/4/09 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by dagostino View Post

I am not saying that its no good the sound of 320 but when you compare the sound of the 51 its much more bass .
I am saying this becuase I am perfect for sound and picture and my job is my hobby.

on picture when I compare with 320 to 51 its much impressed with the 51 then 320 and my eyes is eagle too.
I am tell you this becuase I was a small kid I always work with hifi and video

we can agree to disagree then. the 320 and 51 are identical over hdmi (unless you have a 16 bit panel that can take advantage of the 320's 48 bit processing). You probably have settings different on the models. They use the same chip and offer identical deinterlacing and chroma upsampling error performance using synthetic test discs.
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post #1602 of 6328
9/4/09 at 2:42pm
I'm looking closely at the BDP-23FD to pair it with the KRP-500M. Would the Kuro Link feature on it provide much benefit compared to similar other brand quality player without the Kuro Link?

The product info on the website said: The new KURO LINK Video Adjustment System automatically switches to optimal video settings adjusted by unique parameters developed by Pioneer KURO and Blu-ray Disc player engineers.

Note that I don't own a Pioneer receiver, so this is directly related to improvement in picture quality if any between the 23FD and KRP-500M due to the Kuro Link video adjustment. Interested in hearing if people have done any comparison.
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post #1603 of 6328
9/4/09 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by TwoTwo View Post

I'm looking closely at the BDP-23FD to pair it with the KRP-500M. Would the Kuro Link feature on it provide much benefit compared to similar other brand quality player without the Kuro Link?

99% gimmick. At best all it does is pick one of the Settings' presets which are available to you anyway. There isn't any magic calibration or additional features that are only available via the Link.
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post #1604 of 6328
9/4/09 at 11:51pm
Downloaded and burned this upgrade from the Pioneer US site this evening. The install process worked like a charm - only about 7 minutes or so. I can concur the load times for the Dark Knight were faster.

For what it's worth - the upgrade seems to have "finally" fixed the BD Live connect issue. I'm now able to finally get to the home page of the various studios and able to view the extra content on disks from the major studios (Universal/Warner Bros and Sony/Sceen Gems etc.
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post #1605 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:15am
BDP-320 Problem...

Hoping for some help. I've got a 320 that's maybe 3 months old if that and never had any issues at all. Last night popped in a movie and it will play through all of the previews with no problems and then just freezes up. I cannot turn off the power with the remote nor the front power switch. The ONLY way to turn off the power is by pulling the plug. This took place with two different discs. Always ran like a champ and never any issues at all. I'm thinking of going back to factory settings and updating firmware.

Thoughts ?
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post #1606 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by a.boogeyman View Post

BDP-320 Problem...

Hoping for some help. I've got a 320 that's maybe 3 months old if that and never had any issues at all. Last night popped in a movie and it will play through all of the previews with no problems and then just freezes up. I cannot turn off the power with the remote nor the front power switch. The ONLY way to turn off the power is by pulling the plug. This took place with two different discs. Always ran like a champ and never any issues at all. I'm thinking of going back to factory settings and updating firmware.

Thoughts ?

Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Just to rule out issues. it's not in a place where it's either unable to breathe or adjacent to a heat source like a receiver is it?

What movies did you have troubel with in particular?

i would try a factory reset and then re-install firmware. It sounds more like a firmware issue in that it will function part of the time. Hopefully re-installing the firmware will sort out the issues
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post #1607 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:59am
Movies are Netflix rentals..

Live Free or Die Hard

Bangkok Dangerous

Unit is in an area with plenty of ventilation so no potential for heat issues and away from my receiver.

I've downloaded the firmware update and will give that a go this morning and hopefully it'll sort out the issues.

I'll post results and thanks Winston!
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post #1608 of 6328
9/5/09 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by a.boogeyman View Post

Movies are Netflix rentals..

Live Free or Die Hard

Bangkok Dangerous

Unit is in an area with plenty of ventilation so no potential for heat issues and away from my receiver.

I've downloaded the firmware update and will give that a go this morning and hopefully it'll sort out the issues.

I'll post results and thanks Winston!

before the fw update, try holding down stop then pressing power on, then reset factory defaults. see if that exorcises some of the demons.
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post #1609 of 6328
9/5/09 at 6:57am
Didn't see your latest post in time. However, did the factory reset followed by the firmware updater and voila.. works like a charm and back in business.

Thanks!
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post #1610 of 6328
9/5/09 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by a.boogeyman View Post

Didn't see your latest post in time. However, did the factory reset followed by the firmware updater and voila.. works like a charm and back in business.

Thanks!

Great news - it has the sound of a bad firmware flash that was causing it to trip up with playback. your hardware should be fine considering it can play. these players are pretty reliable at the end of the day compared to others.
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post #1611 of 6328
9/5/09 at 7:23am
Hey guys i got a sammy lcd ln52a850 and a pio bdp-320,should i keep the picture setting on lcd or go for the memory setting.The memory setting seems a little brighter and i didnt even adjust yet, but maybe its just me any help will be appreciate ...thanks
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9/5/09 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by HDMaDnEsS View Post

Hey guys i got a sammy lcd ln52a850 and a pio bdp-320,should i keep the picture setting on lcd or go for the memory setting.The memory setting seems a little brighter and i didnt even adjust yet, but maybe its just me any help will be appreciate ...thanks

Professional should in theory provide the least enhanced/altered image. Even the Pioneer PDP setting pumps up contrast and other settings that manipulate the source.

Like most things, I would opt for what appears to look best and does not clip blacks or whites when testing with a test disc. Stored setting are nice to help create presets for quick usage, but no one can accurately callibrate your display without knowing basic issues like ambient light. trying to match the player to the display is an even further guess since pioneer's lcd setting is intended for lcds in general, which obviously vary in contrast, black levels, and refresh rate.
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post #1613 of 6328
9/5/09 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

99% gimmick. At best all it does is pick one of the Settings' presets which are available to you anyway. There isn't any magic calibration or additional features that are only available via the Link.

That was kind of my initial feeling to as it's more of a marketing ploy. Just want to get others opinion on the matter and see if anybody tried to do a comparison and can notice the difference.
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post #1614 of 6328
9/5/09 at 9:10am
Why is everyone buring discs to update their players, can't you update through ethernet port?

That being said I plugged my ethernet cable in the BDP-23FD and it says no update needed version 3.25 I am in Canada and the pioneer.ca website says version 3.34a, am I doing something wrong?

cheers
Gary
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9/5/09 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by garemz View Post

Why is everyone buring discs to update their players, can't you update through ethernet port?

That being said I plugged my ethernet cable in the BDP-23FD and it says no update needed version 3.25 I am in Canada and the pioneer.ca website says version 3.34a, am I doing something wrong?

cheers
Gary

3.34a has yet to appear on the website. pioneer releases fw first on the european site for download, then on the na site for download, then available on the internet. us early adopters are too impatient to wait for it to hit the servers (3wks from eu site usually).

for me, 3.34a has been the most significant firmware update this player has received to date.
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post #1616 of 6328
9/5/09 at 9:23am
Thanks for the prompt reply Winston.

So I guess the 3.34A means Alpha stage still and it wont be officail till it says 3.34?

Cheers

Gary
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post #1617 of 6328
9/5/09 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by garemz View Post

Thanks for the prompt reply Winston.

So I guess the 3.34A means Alpha stage still and it wont be officail till it says 3.34?

Cheers

Gary

who knows...it works though and makes my player a lot faster - with that, they can call it whatever they want!
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post #1618 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

3.34a has yet to appear on the website. pioneer releases fw first on the european site for download, then on the na site for download, then available on the internet. us early adopters are too impatient to wait for it to hit the servers (3wks from eu site usually).

for me, 3.34a has been the most significant firmware update this player has received to date.

Can the firmware update be done via USB flash/thumb drive?

Is burning a disk the only way to get the latest firmware?
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post #1619 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by blacklion View Post

Is burning a disk the only way to get the latest firmware?

correct. it will ultimately be available on pioneer's servers but is not at the moment.
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post #1620 of 6328
9/5/09 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

who knows...it works though and makes my player a lot faster - with that, they can call it whatever they want!

Winston,

with this new firmware, how does it compare to the Oppo or JVC as far as loading and playing a blu-ray disc?
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