Official Samsung LNxxB750 Owners Thread - Page 8

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these are a little under exposed but i can say that there is an IMMEDIATE loss of black quality the moment you stray from dead center...but the ting is, that immediate loss doesn't really get that much worse the further to the side you get. it stays about 75 percent for all viewing angles.

(source: MI:III HD-DVD on Xbox 360 Connected through receiver with HDMI)

dead center:



off angle roughly 7-8 feet from screen:


hope this helps. sorry again for the under exposure.

How much better is 240hz vs 120hz? I really can't justify in my mind the purpose of the difference between the two but i've been told motion looks better on the b750 vs the b650. Also, how well does the b750 stack up to the XBR9?

Great pics gwai1o! I agree with your off angle assestment. If you are also viewing the set with ambient light beside it such as a window during the daytime, it washes out more distinctly.

240hz vs 120hz isn't that much more of a difference IHMO but the extra adjustment on the B series sets for blur and judder are great improvements over the A650/A750. It's easier to tune out the artifacts when they are enabled.

Thanks for showing those off-angle pics from further away. I wish more people posted them from further back like that.

if the b650 has the same judder/blur controllable scale then i cant see them looking much different to the untrained eye.

i've been playing around with it for a few minutes now an i tried the different presets and "clear" on the b750 is actually quite nice. it doesnt really do anything wierd to the picture but (and this may just be a placebo effect) the picture seems very crisp.

if the 650 has just a basic 120Hz on or off (or low medium high) settings i think the added control of the 240Hz with the individual sliders is nice as is the previously mentioned "clear" preset. im glad i had the day off work today. i am really diggin this tv.

are there any other pictures or anything i can hook you up with. (hopefully with better exposures)? other movies? sources? (all i have access to right now is HDMI connected 360/HDDVD/PS3/BluRay. No cable tv right now.

Awesome man thanks. Can you put up some SD pics with black bars up? Also do you have any fluctuating or brightness/darkness "pumping" that has been alluded to about the Luxia sets?

im not familiar with this pumping (lol im quite immature) you're talking about. explain?

i am grabbing a few shots of Transformers HDDVD and then i will throw in an SD show/movie. im assuming you dont care if it is 4:3 with the bars on the side (like a show) or 16:9 (like a movie) with the bars on the top. i gather you are looking for SD black levels and overall clarity. I will find something for you.

The fluctuating or pumping is when the screen goes from dark to light or vice versa. A good scene to view this is in The Dark Knight when the Joker is being interrogated and Batman is standing behind him. Some people have said that this scene doesn't look right on the new Samsungs.

Argh just ran into my first snag outside of the remote with this B750. All my HDMI inputs from 1-3 will not pic up a signal. They are all defaulting to the HDMI 4 (side) input. So if I have HDMI 1 selected with a Bluray running on HDMI 4 it will display the HDMI 4 image.

WTF, this is a very bad impression from Samsung. I've never had any input issues with other TVs or Brands. I have not gotten it to fix itself or go away even after removing all the inputs and using 1 input at a time. Pulling the power cord and waiting for it to power cycle did not resolve this issue. I tried different types of HDMI cables without any success.

Here's my current input setup:

Component 1 (AV1/Comp1) = Comcast DVR box (Motorola w/DVI output)
Component 2 (Comp2)= Samsung DVD-HD755 upconverting DVD player
Composite 2 (AV2)= Nintendo Wii
HDMI 1 = Comcast DVR box via DVI -> HDMI cable
HDMI 2 = Samsung DVD-HD755
HDMI 3 = Roku Netflix streaming box
HDMI 4 = Samsung BD-P2550 Bluray with AnyNet+ (HDMI-CEC) - I tried with this feature enabled and disabled but no difference.
Coaxial cable= Comcast cable feed
USB1= Samsung wireless dongle- I tried without this plugged in and it didn't
USB2= Samsung flash drive with maual- I tried without this plugged in and it didn't matter.

Note: I have pretty much used up all the inputs that the TV can take. All the analog inputs seem to be working fine.

Anybody else ever have this issue before on any of the Samsung TVs? Are there any quick work arounds or resets? Thanks in advance!

Some Transformers:




Some SD Kill Bill (Horizontal black bar SD test):




Some SD Family Guy (Vertical black bar SD test):






I intentionally blew out the whites on the Fuzzy Door image to see how strong the black level was. Leaps and bounds ahead of my previous set. Sorry there are some reflections in the first few shots.

Anything Else??

-j.

Nice pictures. Thanks again. Looks like your pics and bpmurr's recommendation of this over the 7100/800 series is what's solidifying my choice. I wish that they had a 55", but 52" should do for now.

Excellent pics. Very glad to see that Samsung got it right with this model (no clouding/flashlights).

Another question, are there going to be any other models? Like a B850/B950?

Thanks for the pics. About what degree of angle would you say you were at for the 7-8 feet from the screen? Due to my set up, both sides of my viewing area will be about 20 degrees off center. In the store, I didn't see much dropoff at 20 degrees. I only saw a lot of dropoff at around 45 degrees.

I'm pretty sure there's a new 950 in the works, but chances are it won't see light of day until end of the year.

I just got this set (52B750) and the blacks aren't as dark as the Panasonic G10 (plasma) that it is replacing. Don't get me wrong, my inital impression is very positive, but it's definitely not as "inky" as the plasma.

I was here:



i know i was past 45 degrees but i don't know how far. I would estimate 65 degrees off center. the way my apartment is layed out my kitchen overlooks the living room (whos apartment doesn't right? lol). and if i stood in my kitchen (about 20 feet away) it still looked the same..just further away.

My contribution to the off angle viewing discussion...

Camera (Nikon D50) was kept at the exact same exposure settings

the new luxia B9000 LED line will replace the A950 and is to continue the backmounted led array tech with local dimming; AND it will have the thinness of the 6000/7000/8000 luxia by having a seperate wireless tuner box.

here are three links, others with google
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1239968205

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/s...s-wireless-ex/

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2009/04/2...ails-surfaced/

TVbc

Mine too. I notice the slight clouding on a black screen as well (It's not so much or almost perfect at the center; but off center you would only notice.) Also checked the 46B750 in Fry's, it's got the same thing. The 52" seem to have more uniform screen without the slight clouding (never checked it very well though as it was on a higher pedestal.) But I think I will still keep my set. As you've said, this TV just have the inherent nature of these kind of sets without local dimming.

Also the lag when AMP is ON and Game Mode is OFF, playing Wii is just not workable. Game Mode has to be ON when playing Wii. On playing PS3, like Little Big Planet or MGS4, AMP has to be OFF at least for good response while playing the mentioned games. Otherwise, controls would be unnatural and very difficult to manage.

Could you post pictures showing the slight clouding of your set, if you can? (at the center and slightly off center - vertical and horizontal off angles) Thanks.

what are the mechanics to show a completly black screen?meaning how is it done?
thanks

Too bad it's likely going to cost a minimum $5,000 for the 55-inch version

Go to the end of a movie. Usually at the end of the credits, there is an all black screen.