Official Samsung LNxxB750 User Settings/Calibration Thread - Page 5

Originally Posted by SiRcivic27

Thanks, I've started with the Cnet settings and adjusted from there but its just seems too dark and its missing detail during dark scenes. (like when watching shows similar NCIS)

I'll have to look into the AVS disc and the 360 patterns as I've never done anything like this before. Its my first LCD set, and HD for that matter.

Also, the one guy I talked to told me to dial down the contrast and brightness to a usable but not bright level so I don't damage anything before he calibrates it. Should I listen to him or can I set those to what I like without damaging anything?

Originally Posted by Tandrin

MFabien - I don't see how you are using a contrast of 75. Did you arrive at this through a disc, by eye, or by calibrations tools?

Originally Posted by Tandrin

Yes, return it! Digital signal are either there or not there. As long as there is no interference from poor insulation any HDMI will be fine (except for maybe long runs of 20' plus). Monoprice.com has very reliable and solidly built cables. They run less than $15, are 1.3a certified, and ships really fast.

If you look around on this forum you will see many threads debating this topic as well as discusions as to marketing by Monster and BB. The real question is - did the BB salesman believe what he/she was telling you?

Originally Posted by 1ofeach

I just got my B750 first LCD graduated from a rear projection I just started playing with the settings and I was wondering if anybody could tell me why "screen fit" settings leave 2 wide stripes on each and "wide fit" is to big

Originally Posted by mfabien

To get proper gradation of your blacks:

Step 1: Set Mode to Movie, and, reduce Contrast to 75, Brightness to 46. The Contrast setting will deal with the blacks.

Step 2: Change mode to "Standard" and don't pay attention to changes in Backlight and Brightness.

Originally Posted by SiRcivic27

I bought it because it said on the box and the BB sales dude said it supported 240hz. Upon my recent research I found that the 240hz is done in the TV and the signal from everything is only 60hz at the most. It does seem that monster is banking on marketing and people such as myself that didnt research before they bought. I just researched the TV, not cables; at least I did afterwards!

Originally Posted by wtwieder

I don't understand Step 2. If you are in Movie mode and make those, changes why are you then switching to Standard mode?

Originally Posted by SiRcivic27

[IMG]http://www.****************/img/i/P.jpg[/IMG]Another question, when I bought the TV at best buy I got a monster cable HDMI cable. Because its 240hz I bought the new 1000HDX cable that cost me $130. I just read on Cnet that basically all cables are the same and I spent $110 to much on my HDMI cable.

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Originally Posted by mfabien

Settings should first be made in Movie mode. Then when mode is changed, some of the basic Picture settings are automatically changed, for instance, Backlighting, Brightness and Sharpness. But Contrast remains unchanged.

Originally Posted by wtwieder

Hmmm, perhaps I am misunderstanding you. I am almost sure that the adjustments you make to each mode are independent for the mode you are adjusting.. ( What is the point of having different modes, if changes in one mode's parameters create an automatic change in another?)

However, perhaps you are suggesting that changes in the advanced setting options, present in the movie mode, but not offered in the Natural mode, DO create changes in Natural Mode. Still, the basic backlighting, brightness, and sharpness, settings are not part of those Advanced settings. A change in those basic parameters in Movie mode, does not seem in my set to get changed automatically in the other modes.

Originally Posted by mfabien

Make setting changes, verify other HDMI inputs and see for yourself that many settings are copied.

Changing to a mode other than Movie will cause changes to basic picture settings, as I said before. Natural needs more Brightness, Backlighting and impacts Sharpness... check it out.

Originally Posted by disorganizer

i can NOT reproduce that or missunderstand it:
if i set brightness 5 on natural and then go to movie mode and set briightness to 10, then brightness in natural is still on 5.

and this is also how it should work according to the manual, at least on my set.

Originally Posted by mfabien

Step 1: Set Mode to Movie, and, reduce Contrast to 75, Brightness to 46. The Contrast setting will deal with the blacks.

Originally Posted by ToBeFrank

I thought contrast was for adjusting white level and brightness was for adjusting black level?

Originally Posted by mfabien

If you don't have a Calibration DVD to display a gradation of White down to Black, you will not appreciate this. So there's little reason to pursue this discussion.

Typical digital displays have controls for black-level (brightness), white-level (contrast or picture), color, tint (hue), and sharpness.

brightness control - also called black level; adjusts the brightness of the reproduction of the black areas in a video image.

contrast control - a control adjusting the intensity of a display's brightest highlights.

Originally Posted by ToBeFrank

Why would you presume I don't have one? I use the one freely available from this forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496.

The first sentence of the manual section for calibrating these settings states the following:

The Avia glossary manual available here, http://www.ovationmultimedia.com/fil...ssary_2007.pdf, states the following:

Originally Posted by mfabien

Don't know where you're going with this...

If you were able to get good gradation with blacks, that's the important thing.

I was able to correct the black saturation using the Contrast setting. If you don't agree with the way I did it, at this point, I will not lose any sleep on it.

Originally Posted by mfabien

it was not designed that way.

Originally Posted by disorganizer

in fact it is designed so that NO settings are taken from one mode to the other.
each mode and input has its independent settings.

no matter what setting you change in movie mode, the settings which were previously set in the other modes are untouched by this.

To get proper gradation of your blacks:

Step 1: Set Mode to Movie, and, reduce Contrast to 75, Brightness to 46. The Contrast setting will deal with the blacks.

Step 2: Change mode to "Standard" and don't pay attention to changes in Backlight and Brightness.

Originally Posted by ToBeFrank

I thought contrast was for adjusting white level and brightness was for adjusting black level?

Originally Posted by sircivic27

Thanks, I've started with the Cnet settings and adjusted from there but its just seems too dark and its missing detail during dark scenes.

Originally Posted by wtwieder

I bought the same cables because of an enthusiastic BB sales pitch. I carefully A-B compared the results of these Monster cables to that of inexpensive cables costing only $10. I am an audiophile and with analog material have noticed a great difference in my stereo system depending on the quality of the cables used. So if anything, I was somewhat prejudiced to find an improvement with the Monster HDMI cables, but I could not, whether it was with the STB connection or the Blu ray player connection to the TV.

Did you get a free DVD with your cables? I did. The disk explained how to get the most out of your cables, and essentially was an hours worth of propaganda telling you how great these cables are. Apparently Monster cables marketing took a lessen out of the story about the Emporer's New Clothes. If you are told enough there is a difference, you may begin to believe it, even though you are walking around naked, wearing nothing new.

Originally Posted by wtwieder

I have a problem with Sharpness levels being set any lower than 40. I have never seen a problem even if sharpness levels are set as high as 60. Why is it, that most calibrations recommend low sharpness levels of 0 to 20, when Samsung sets the default at 50? Don't you lose clarity of details that are inherent in the source, regardless of whether it is Bluray, or broadcast TV? To my eyes, I do. I suppose if you are bothered that these details make an actress look as old as she really is, you should set the sharpness to zero, but I want to see reality and not ignore it.