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post #211 of 11218
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

DLPs aren't generally susceptible to speaker magnetism. That's an issue specific to CRTs.

Good to know, thanks.
post #212 of 11218
Looks like Amazon has the 73837 in stock. Can't be too much longer for the 82" models!

Wow, the 73837 is starting to show up everywhere. A good sign. Onecall and US Appliance show them in stock.
post #213 of 11218
Watched I am Legend on Blue-Ray on my 60737 and can you saw WOW! thats all I have to say. This tv even after a month and half of use still blows me away! I do notice though some slight rainbowing effect, only when looking down to grab some popcorn and then back up!
post #214 of 11218
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Originally Posted by bslep View Post

Looks like Amazon has the 73837 in stock. Can't be too much longer for the 82" models!

Wow, the 73837 is starting to show up everywhere. A good sign. Onecall and US Appliance show them in stock.

Just received my 73737 from US-Appliance. Took about a week and a half to arrive once I placed the order but they had the best price around. Impressive TV too but I don't have anything to compare it to since it is my first HDTV over 32"
post #215 of 11218
Update BB called this morning my 73737 will be ariving tommorow between 9-11am!
post #216 of 11218
Hello everyone! I am a new member here on AVS, so this will be my first post!!
Here is a quick overview of my set-up:
I just picked up a Mitsubishi WD-60737 model on Sunday from Fry's Electronics for $995.00 here in Las Vegas (they did a price match for me, since Ultimate had it for $995). I also picked up a Panasonic (60k model) Blu-Ray player from Sam's Club for $227 and ordered a Tech-Craft (HBL52) stand thru Provantage.com for the UNREAL price of $68.00 + shipping!! The stand came Wednesday, so now I have everything set up.
So.....for about $1,500 TOTAL......I have an amazing set-up IMO. The TV just blew me away right out of the box!! I tweaked it a little, but the picture is AMAZING.
Cox Cable SD channels look good, HD channels look fantastic. The Panasonic Blu-Ray player is awesome.....the playback quality on this TV is PHENOMINAL. We have watched SD DVDs & Blu-Ray DVDs and although Blu-Ray is better.........honestly, the SD DVDs look great as well.
All-in-all......I would rate this Mitsubishi WD-60737 a 10/10. Honestly, for $995.00 how can you go wrong getting a 60" HD 1080p DLP w/120Hz? You can't.
My wife and I looked at the Panasonic Viera 58" plasma & Samsung 58" plasma while we were at Fry's comparing it to the Mitsu DLP. For the extra $1,000.......and 2" smaller, we couldn't pass up the Mitsu DLP (not to mention the Mitsu weighs 65Lbs vs 100Lbs for the plasmas!!!!)
I would like to get some input from anyone who has this TV (or other sizes of same model series) professionally calibrated to compare settings. Has anyone out there done this yet??
post #217 of 11218
Welcome, VegasRph! Newmason disagrees with me, but changing to Natural and Low Temp is what most of the pros would say is the first thing to do. Natural/Low Temp is 6500k, and that's what most calibration sources will tell you is the target you should be aiming for. All the new models seem to be shipped at Brilliant and High Temp for ZOMG reds out of the box. If you have a lot of bright light in the room you might want to try Bright instead of Natural, but even the user manual says Natural/Low Temp is 6500k.

"Natural/Color Temp at the low setting displays video at approximately the 6500K industry standard for NTSC pictures."

But really, man, what looks good to you looks good to you, and you paid for it!

One of the things I just noticed is that if you're at Natural/Low Temp and switch just to Brilliant. . . the Color Temp may switch to High without you changing it yourself. But then you can go back and change the Color Temp to Low again (while the Picture Mode stays Brilliant). So don't assume the Color Temp is staying the same when you change Picture Mode. Color Temp seems to be stored with individual Picture Modes.
post #218 of 11218
To each his own, my 60737 is in my semi brightly lit living room very close to a would say a 6 or 7ft slidding glass door to the deck. So for my personal use and watching tv during the day the brilliant looks much better than the under exposed natural during the day. I have yet to try the natural setting durning moving watching and at night while watching hd cable. Ill have to give it a shot at night and see how it looks, because when I do watch tv at night, I do find myself saying wow thats alittle to bright to the whites and the reds, on the brilliant setting. As far as getting it professionally calibrated, I dont know. I cant come to terms yet with paying upwards of 300 bucks for someone to come out and judge your tv not only by his eyes but also by industry standards they use. To me professional calibration is great if your just spitting out that kind of money easily, but I can name about 15 other A/V products I much rather buy with that money
post #219 of 11218
I didn't figure out until today that when I was watching Brilliant that I was also watching High temp because I didn't realize it was switching the color temp too when I switched the picture mode. Brilliant/Low temp was better for me than Brilliant/High during the day. Otoh, I don't have as much light down here in this room as perhaps others do. I do have a couple windows, but generally don't get direct sunshine thru them. And like I said, when you pay for it you don't have to justify your taste in these things. I think I'll stick with Natural/Low temp most of the time.
post #220 of 11218
Thanks for the welcome to the forum! Honestly, I should have joined a while back, I would normally browse the forums for advice before I joined. My old set-up was kinda outdated.......I had a Panasonic 47" CRT 1080i (rear projector) that had a pretty nice picture in SD & HD thru Cox Cable......but it died last Friday!
Since I am always reading online & browsing the stores, I had a pretty good idea what I was looking for......but this Mitsu DLP just blew me away! In fact, my wife says on the SD & HD channels she can notice an improvement vs the older Panasonic. Of course, Blu-Ray is just stunning........Disney-Pixar movies look INSANE.
Right now, I am running the WD-60737 in NATURAL mode + LOW Temp. I adjusted the contrast & sharpness a little........I left the other settings alone.
To me, the TV is just so BEAUTIFUL.......I cannot believe the picture quality for $995. Seems like the best deal out there right now! (I would have loved to have the 65" or 73" model, but the 60" was a tight squeeze for our Media Niche in our Living room).

As far as the calibration (professional) goes, I agree with the cost $$ issue. If it was only $100 or so, I would have it done......but at $300.....it's tough to swallow.

Would any of the DVD Essential discs be worth it to use? Is there one for Blu-Ray? I know I got a DVD at home, circa year 2001 or so (Best Buy) that I could play with.

Any thoughts?
post #221 of 11218
I'm going to purchase mine this weekend. I'm excited but the possible geometry issue has me worried.

Maybe if new owners could quickly check their sets with one of those test patterns mentioned on the previous page, and post the results if their picture is straight and true, we can figure out how much of an issue (or how often) it is with these new models?
post #222 of 11218
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Originally Posted by happy nightmares View Post

I'm going to purchase mine this weekend. I'm excited but the possible geometry issue has me worried.

Maybe if new owners could quickly check their sets with one of those test patterns mentioned on the previous page, and post the results if their picture is straight and true, we can figure out how much of an issue (or how often) it is with these new models?

Post 193 for "how" and post 198 and 204 for two owner's results. Mostly been the upper left quadrant we've been staring hard at, tho presumably a problem could appear anywhere on a "bad" set.

I would assume there is some degree of adjustment possible, but I haven't attempted it on mine at #204 and that moderate amount has been entirely unnoticeable to me in actual use so far.

Well, Happy, you could always demand the floor model after checking it yourself on the spot.
post #223 of 11218
Ok I'm getting my 73737 tommorow and I plan as promised to post 3 pics of picture for everyone on here. I have a sony 10 mp camera and was wondering if you wanted to attatch pics on here how to do it and does anyone know the file size allowed? I know my sony takes some big pics at5 to 8 megs each. Or should i use a lower resolution on the camera for a smaller file size would that make the picture not as clear?
post #224 of 11218
Here's a picture for those of you who want to know just how big this thing is. I know it's a crappy picture (iPhone camera) but at least you can get a feel for the size using the PS3 as a reference.
Source is 1080p MKV file via PS3.

BTW, the stand was only $75 shipped. If you want to know where, just send me a PM as I think it might be a pricing error

post #225 of 11218
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Originally Posted by toxz4340 View Post

Ok I'm getting my 73737 tommorow and I plan as promised to post 3 pics of picture for everyone on here. I have a sony 10 mp camera and was wondering if you wanted to attatch pics on here how to do it and does anyone know the file size allowed? I know my sony takes some big pics at5 to 8 megs each. Or should i use a lower resolution on the camera for a smaller file size would that make the picture not as clear?

I think 1024x768 (or roughly the same if one side is bigger and the other smaller) is the max for *attachments*. Above that, you'll need external hosting.
post #226 of 11218
Very NICE set-up you have there!! WOW. That DLP is HUGE.
***Those Disney-Pixar movies look AMAZING in Blu-Ray!!!
I like the stand. I picked up my stand (Tech Craft HBL52) for $68.00 thru Provantage.com (the shipping was $40). In fact, I just ordered a 2nd stand.....the next larger one Tech Craft HBL60 for $73.00 plus shipping! They delivered the stand in 2 days out of California to Nevada!
post #227 of 11218
After watching this TV for the past couple of days, all I can say is WOW. I ran DVE last night and most of the colors were pretty close. Very minor adjustments on PerfectColor and PerfectTint settings. I do use the Natural-Low setting with Contrast at 25, Brightness at 30, Color 29, Tint 30, Sharpness 16, Video Noise: Off, Sharpedge: Off, DeepField: On.

I haven't messed with the ISF adjustments yet. I don't want to get too far into it since I'm still waiting on a response from Mits regarding my geometry issue. Other than the geo issue, this set looks really, really great! Can't wait to get a blue-ray player now.
post #228 of 11218
need help... I was considering buying last years samsung LED DLP (HL61A750) but coundt muster the money in time to buy. Time has passed and i see the prices are high and its hard to find. Then I read about this new mitsi models and my eyes lit up at the oppurtunity.

Some questions here.
1. being that this display still supports lamp based tech, am I overacting about this whole LED vs Lamp comparisons? should i worry about having to deal with replacing and prices. i always felt i should understand about lamp sources and wether if it was a big deal.

2. does this display have overscan? was hopeing that maybe there would be prayer to that myth seeing that its common with projector displays.

3. How are the 3d capabilities? has anyone here truly gotten into that... I have a very strong graphics card.

4. lastly is this truly 1080p resolution or is it doing the double hrz rate resolution?


thank you so much for your time!
post #229 of 11218
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Originally Posted by RAMBOJVR View Post

need help... I was considering buying last years samsung LED DLP (HL61A750) but coundt muster the money in time to buy. Time has passed and i see the prices are high and its hard to find. Then I read about this new mitsi models and my eyes lit up at the oppurtunity.

Some questions here.
1. being that this display still supports lamp based tech, am I overacting about this whole LED vs Lamp comparisons? should i worry about having to deal with replacing and prices. i always felt i should understand about lamp sources and wether if it was a big deal.

2. does this display have overscan? was hopeing that maybe there would be prayer to that myth seeing that its common with projector displays.

3. How are the 3d capabilities? has anyone here truly gotten into that... I have a very strong graphics card.

4. lastly is this truly 1080p resolution or is it doing the double hrz rate resolution?


thank you so much for your time!

RAMBOJVR,

1. You are going to have to replace the lamp at some point depending on usage, but the price for the Mit's lamps are now down to about $100.

2. The Mit's DLP's do have have overscan, but not much on my 65" Diamond model.

3. I have not used the 3d capabilities on my TV, there is a plug in the back of the set for a set of 3d glasses. The glasses run $100-$200 depending on the brand. There are very few movies and only a hand full of games that are 3d, so I have not taken the plunge for so little content.

4. No, this TV like all rear projection DLP TV's uses a DMD (digital micro mirror) chip to double the display output. The display is a bit softter than a true 1080p, but most people are not watching these sets at less than 6'.

PHXHEAT
post #230 of 11218
Replacement lamps direct from Mits are down to $99 now. To me, it isn't an issue. I've read others mention that the bulb-based Mits are brighter than LED based sammy's, but I'm sure other will disagree.

All sets overscan to my knowledge, but a good calibrator can set to accordingly. Based on my observations with this set, it seems to be less 5% from the HDNet test pattern.

I haven't tried the 3D feature yet.

Not sure about the wobble though.
post #231 of 11218
I just wanted everone to know, there is a REBATE offer thru Callaway/Odyssey Golf. Depending on which model you purchase, you can get a FREE gift!! Check this out:


http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/promotions.html


http://mitsubishi.linksunlimited.com/


My WD-60737 purchase gets me a NEW putter!!! WOW!! I paid $995.00 for my TV and now I can get a FREE $150.00 Odyssey putter!! SWEET.

The offer is from May 29 - June 21.
post #232 of 11218
RAMBOJVR-

Go with the Mitsubishi WD series DLPs. My neighbor has the Samsung LED DLP in the 61" and he thinks the picture on my WD-60737 (60") is BETTER than his. We watched the SAME Blu-Ray discs (Taken & Ratatouille) on BOTH our sets, and BOTH of us agreed that the Mitsubishi was the winner.

Honestly, if you can afford $995.00 for a NEW TV + $125.00 for a TV STAND delivered to your front door.......like I got......you will be THRILLED/AMAZED/DELIGHTED with this Mitsubishi WD-60737 TV.

Next, go get yourself a Panasonic BLU-RAY player (top rated player on almost ALL forums and reviews for around $300) and you won't believe your eyes!!

Seriously......this Mitsu DLP is the DEAL of DEALS. (Don't forget the cool BONUS rebate offer I posted too!!!!)
post #233 of 11218
The actual replacing of the lamps is easy and straight-forward as well. It's not rocket science, and you don't need to bring your lunch. If it takes you more than 15 mins, you must have read the instructions more than once.
post #234 of 11218
My 73737 has a slight bowing in the upper left corner, really only noticeable on the test pattern or when staring at the shape of the letterbox bars.

Does anyone know how to use the manual geometry in the SM?

After hitting menu-2-4-5-7 then 0

Selecting manual, the only thing you appear to have control of is a little yellow cross that starts near the upper left corner. It doesn't look like you can move it very far from its starting position.

Anyone know how to use this?
post #235 of 11218
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post11546564

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post11554285

I haven't tried this myself and make no warranty at all that you won't reduce your brand new toy to a smouldering pile of plastic by attempting it.

I mean, I hope not, but I don't actually know.

Plus, I don't think our remote has some of these buttons, so they must have mapped them elsewhere.

If you get brave, let us know how it comes out. I might try at some point, but mine is really pretty minor.

Edit: Aww, wotthehell. TV is not a smouldering pile of plastic, and lines are straighter now. Didn't seem to need any INFO button. Just make the changes at each adjustment point you want to change using the arrows on the rocker around the Enter button to aim the yellow crosshairs with, and use the fast forward and rewind buttons to work your way around the perimiter from adjustment point to adjustment point. I don't know if you have to go all the way around before you hit Enter, but I did. Hitting Enter takes you back to the spot where you hit 0 again to return to the service menu item for Geometry. So make your changes, hit Enter, hit 0, select Manual Geometry and you'll then be able to see the impact of your changes. You won't see any impact while making the changes --you have to make them, exit (by hitting Enter), and then return to the Manual Geometry screen to see what the impact is.

I tweaked 5 or 6 of the adjustment points on both sides and along the top.

They are all nice and straight now. The main problem I have is without a reference picture of what it is supposed to look like, I'm unsure if the magenta colored line that wants to peek out along the edge should be on the screen or off the screen, and if that is impacted by whether you've first turned off overscan or not (which I haven't tried to do). I went with "just off the screen", but I really have no way to know if that was correct other than when I first went in there it mostly was NOT on the screen so I assumed that was what they were trying to accomplish (at least with a little bit of overscan purposefully allowed).
post #236 of 11218
Great find georule!!! I'll try my luck at it later this evening after I get home from work!
post #237 of 11218
Just wanted to make sure the word gets around about the GolfClub offer thru Callaway & Odyssey right now.

Pretty cool deal, for those who GOLF and buy a new Mitsu TV until June 21st!
post #238 of 11218
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Originally Posted by bkwells View Post

Great find georule!!! I'll try my luck at it later this evening after I get home from work!

Yeah, looking at your screenie again, it appears the adjustment point just before the adjustment point the tool first comes up on is the one that needs moving left. That yellow dot in the middle of your "bow" is it. So after you get in there, hit the Rewind once to get to that one, or the Fast forward however many times to go all the way around to get to it.

On my set (and I don't say this is "correct" --it is what it is), on the left side that red line in your screenie is not visible at all and the white line isn't visible either. Just a bit of black space and then the green line. On the top the white line also isn't visible. On the right side it isn't visible. On the bottom it *is* visible, just barely.
post #239 of 11218
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Originally Posted by bkwells View Post

Great find georule!!!

Woohoo! That means we can tweak the small geometry issues ourselves. Great work georule!

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Originally Posted by VegasRph View Post

Just wanted to make sure the word gets around about the GolfClub offer thru Callaway & Odyssey right now.

Pretty cool deal, for those who GOLF and buy a new Mitsu TV until June 21st!

Heck yeah!

If you don't golf yourself, you might have a relative or friend who does, and those are nice clubs.

Well... this Friday is off to a good start.
post #240 of 11218
GEO, you go ahead and figure out the rest of that geometry setting stuff, so I don't have to do anything when I get mine except follow your instructions. LOL
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