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post #31 of 11219
I just picked up a 65C9 a couple days ago. I am coming from a 50" 720p Samsung Plasma. I am happy so far with the TV. Obviously the blacks aren't as good on the Mits but that is to be expected. My only problem so far is with this sparkly, glitter like look, its only really apparent with a white screen. For the money I can't complain at all.

When it comes to SD picture it wasn't horrible watching the Lakers/Rockets game, I don't get ABC HD on Dish for some reason, I will avoid watching SD when possible anyway. I have noticed the rainbow effect but its only if i try, during normal viewing I haven't had an issue.

So when it comes to bang for the buck you can't beat these DLP's. Although if a day comes where I can get a 60-65 inch Plasma for $2000 or under I will probably sell this to a friend. If you are looking for a really large tv and don't want to spend a couple grand this is it. For now it is a very nice tv that I will will hopefully have for at least a year. I just have to fight the itch to upgrade
post #32 of 11219
I just ordered a 73 inch 737 from BB online. I had a JVC I art 65 inch 1080i with dvi(03 model)not a dlp, I did like it, but side viewing wasn't the best and soon as 4 years went by, I had a $500 repair, then a year after that another issue and decided not to keep throwing money into it..plus it was about 260 pounds and very hard to move and take easily to a shop. In the mean time I have been using a 50 inch plasma and I do like the picture quality, but is just too small for the room I am using it in. I almost went to frys to get the 67 inch samsung dlp, but I couldn't pass up the BB offer of 36 months no interest with a BB card if paid in full in 36 months, which isn't a issue.
Hopefully I am happy with the Mitsu. I will find out next Sat and once I get it set up I will take some pictures.
post #33 of 11219
I like these TV's but in that last picture posted there is a lot of white light emanating around his jersey. I realize this is a snapshot so its easier to see, but what did the picture look like when it was in motion, was that leaking white visible? Also I don't notice much of that in the 1st image, but the background is not dark, its mixed.
post #34 of 11219
I hate to ask a question like this, but I appear to have no stores within a 200 mile radius that carry or are going to carry any of these models.

Last year, I checked out the Mitsubishi 65835 at a local Tweeter (now dead) and more or less loved the picture with two exceptions: A slight shimmer in bright parts of the picture and a distinct non-smoothness to text scrolling across the screen.

The first 'problem' I figured I could get used to, but the second -- having text judder its way across screen -- was very annoying and caused me to not buy it.

It wasn't the signal. The plasma screen next to it was on the same feed and had no difficulty showing smooth text scrolling. And it didn't appear to be the settings in the TV (Film mode, Smooth 120, etc) as I played around with them for quite a while and nothing changed it.

So, my question: How are the 737 and 837s at displaying scrolling text? Is this behavior still evident?

Thank you, and apologies that it is unlikely I'll be able to check this out myself without extreme effort.
post #35 of 11219
Got my WD-60737 today...the picture is awesome. Way better than my old LCD RPTV.
post #36 of 11219
duke you are the 1st person other than myself that I know to own the 60737 I think there are only 2 of us! Its a great tv! let me know if you starting calibrating it!
post #37 of 11219
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Originally Posted by Newmason View Post

duke you are the 1st person other than myself that I know to own the 60737 I think there are only 2 of us! Its a great tv! let me know if you starting calibrating it!

When I first turned on the set all the colors were way oversaturated...for sure it was in the store display "look what set has the brightest colors next to all the others mode!!!!" I adjusted this and then felt like I was looking through a window to the world while watching "Nature" in HD. Does a 60" $5000 plasma have a better picture? Yes - but this set is only $1K. Could I ask for anything better for the price? No way!!!!! I'm so glad that I didn't get a smaller 720p plasma instead for the same price!

One question - it looks like the included remote should have a backlight but mine doesn't. Did I get a bad remote????

I can't beleve so many overlook these sets just because they aren't flat!!!!

I'll post some settings soon.

DoP
post #38 of 11219
I just got offered a 60737 as a replacement for a WD-52525 that turned out to be a lemon. Hopefully I will have it in a couple of weeks and I will adjust the settings with my display2.

Chris
post #39 of 11219
Duke your right, when i first fired it up for the first time contrast was 100 and brightness was around 60 or something like that!!! way to high, turned that all down and ran a DVE disc for the colors and they still look oversaturated a bit, so some tweeking will be required and your right its no 5000 plasma and the picture is amazing for the price and i saw who cares if it isnt flat to all those ppl out there, i cant wall mount my tv nore would I want to!!!! We get a much bigger tv with similar picture qualities for over 75% off the LCD plasma price!!! I just ran a blue-ray movie last night on the tv and OMG, i will never watch anything else! PS3 game play looks just a awesome!!!!! got to love the DLP's for gaming!
post #40 of 11219
Well i'm hunting around for a new tv and man what a chore. lol. i have a wd-52725 that i got at frye's four years ago and it is dim and the blacks aren't constant. always going to a grayish color for the letterbox bars when a movie scene goes bright as in outside daytime scene. annoying. i want black that stays black and doesn't go gray. Do the newer dlps stay black for the bars no matter what the scene is? if it's corrected from the old ones like mine than i might pick up a new mitsu.
I'm looking at the 73737. Don't know the price of the 837 model though. i need to know in case it's any better or not. i was going to go plasma or lcd but saw the new dlp model on best buy and was drooling over the price. that much for a dlp in 73"? you got to be kidding. When the 73" models come out i'm going to have to pick one up if it is comparable to the other stuff that's out there. 3D ready is nifty too.
post #41 of 11219
Has an expected arrival date for the WD-65837 been announced? The set is not listed on the Mitsubishi web site, but it is listed in the press release for the 2009 models. Thanks in advance.
post #42 of 11219
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Originally Posted by rsk4today View Post

Has an expected arrival date for the WD-65837 been announced? The set is not listed on the Mitsubishi web site, but it is listed in the press release for the 2009 models. Thanks in advance.

I was told by Ultimate Electronics that they are expecting delivery of the 65837 on May 22nd. Not sure if this includes the 73837 or not.
post #43 of 11219
After bestB.com gave me a run around for days and wasted 6+ hours of my time, then I find out the 73737 is not available and none in stock till next month maybe, this is after I already picked a delivery date. So I ended up getting the 65737 and it came today. I love it, is super light, tons of setting to play with and the black level looks real good. The out of box setting had the contrast all the way to full. I messed a little in the advanced perfect color and advanced picture settings. I need to read up because there are around 24 setting that can be changed. Been trying the sharpedge and deepfield imager to see what it looks like in different movies and on cable and so far like them both on. Sounds gets loud enough for everyday watching tv and there is a digital audio output on back which is nice. I put it on a stand that says made for up to 52 inch tv, the stand is exactly 52 inches wide and the tv is 58 inches wide, so it only hangs over 3 inches on each side. The only thing that I don't like is the remote, it is a little plain but works ok.
post #44 of 11219
for those few who have the new ones here how are the black bars on the sets while watching hd or movie material? the 60735 was crap for the black level for the bars in letterbox material. non hi def but still it was atrocious. the picture brightness bled into the bars making them almost white. what black bars? whatever. if the new dlps can match up to the lcd's and leds for their sharpness and punch i might consider. i want my letterbox material to have bars that are deep black and not change to any other shade of gray. i love the thought of a 73" but i'm not so sure if i get something that isn't comparable to lcds and led's.
post #45 of 11219
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Originally Posted by WormInfested View Post

for those few who have the new ones here how are the black bars on the sets while watching hd or movie material? the 60735 was crap for the black level for the bars in letterbox material. non hi def but still it was atrocious. the picture brightness bled into the bars making them almost white. what black bars? whatever. if the new dlps can match up to the lcd's and leds for their sharpness and punch i might consider. i want my letterbox material to have bars that are deep black and not change to any other shade of gray. i love the thought of a 73" but i'm not so sure if i get something that isn't comparable to lcds and led's.

Although it probably varies from set to set, you will always get some of that effect with a rear projection TV. It's light scatter in the cabinet. Similar to how a front projector lights up the room it's in. In the old days of CRT RPTV's, people would even line the cabinet with black felt to reduce the light scatter.
post #46 of 11219
Just got my WD-73737 yesterday. I would say the white bleeding into the black bars is pretty significant. I've had a 73736 and a Samsung HL67A650 in this same room...and I don't remember either of them having such a big effect on the black bars in letterbox.

Picture looks good...I really need some input on tweaking this, but there is a significant bleeding of white into the bars. Also...I have a Harmony 890, and thank god. The remote with this is crap. The 73736 remote was much better than this useless thing.
post #47 of 11219
the bleeding into the black bars is something i was wondering on for the new sets. my four year old dlp of mitsu has the same issue. i hate it.i think they never corrected this issue and never will. wonder if the 837 models will not have this issue. maybe not though. i was considering the new 73" model.
post #48 of 11219
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Originally Posted by WormInfested View Post

the bleeding into the black bars is something i was wondering on for the new sets. my four year old dlp of mitsu has the same issue. i hate it.i think they never corrected this issue and never will. wonder if the 837 models will not have this issue. maybe not though. i was considering the new 73" model.

I haven't seen the new model but I have the 73735 and there is some bleeding into the blackbars during a bright scene. It almost looks like a reflection and it only bleeds into the top bar for the most part.

It is annoying and the way I get around is by using Mats that completely cover the black bars. I did this with my older CRT Mits as well. It really enhances the perceived contrast when watching 2.35/2.40 material in a dark room.
post #49 of 11219
Picked up a 60737 for $994 (+tax) at a two-day sale at Ultimate Electronics yesterday. I wasn't really in the market until I saw that price on a 60" and cracked. That's about 1/3 off the MSRP on a new model TV, and 60"/120hz for less than $1k just broke my will.

This is my second Mits DLP. The first is a 62" first gen from late 2004 (and still in service). The picture is very nice to my eyes (tho I've never had a tv calibrated, for your "what kind of guy is this" mental adjustment).

"Brilliant" mode (which is what it was out of the box) is very chroma saturated. I tried it for awhile, and may use it sometimes, but natural will probably be my usual.

If I was looking for something to criticize even in a very reasonably priced TV of this size, it would be that the digital tuner is slow to change channels. Slower than the three year old 42" 720p Sony LCD it is replacing, it feels like to me (I was starting "four one thousand" in my head) --lucikly I only OTA rarely.

Can't claim to be a fan of the remote either. The little bit you'd use the most is small, sharp and uncomfortable to my fat fingers, and no backlight.

But damn is this thing light (64lbs) compared to our first gen Mits DLP 62" in the living room, and I can't hear the fans on this one at all yet from sitting distance with the sound off. Also, they added a feature where if you turn the TV off accidentally, or immediately change your mind, you can turn it right back on as basically "instant on" for up to 60 seconds after you turned it off. . . rather than wait for the typical "cool down period" and then go thru a regular start up. If you've had older DLPs you know how nice that is.
post #50 of 11219
You guys along with a friend who has owned several gens of mitsus have convinced me to get the 60737, plus the price is nice. It is replacing a 61" JVC Lcos. With the price I have decided not to do a performance plan with bestbuy. Delivery is set for this Thursday. I'll run DVE on it and let you guys know my settings.
post #51 of 11219
I called up Frye's this morning the guy in the tv department told me that they just received in the new dlp models a few days and have them on display. i asked him if he'd see any bleeding into the bars for letterbox stuff and he said that he saw it on last years models but not the ones in the store.
i'll probably end up driving the hour's distance there this weekend. i'll have to compare them to the lcds and plasmas to get an idea for PQ. the price for the 65737 is frickin cheap compared to what is online. but then i'll have tax but a peace of mind knowing i bought it locally in case of any issues. i was thinking of the 73 incher but budget won't allow it. even though it would be really cool at 9 feet away where i'm sitting at i'd be upgrading from a 52 dlp so i'm sure i'll be happy with an extra 8 inches.
post #52 of 11219
Looking at Newmason's screenies upstream, that looks like mine did in "Brilliant" mode out-of-the-box. "Bright" and "Natural" are much less chroma-saturated. Brilliant looks really nice in some instances, but if there is much red on the screen it starts to look cartoonish.
post #53 of 11219
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Originally Posted by WormInfested View Post

I called up Frye's this morning the guy in the tv department told me that they just received in the new dlp models a few days and have them on display. i asked him if he'd see any bleeding into the bars for letterbox stuff and he said that he saw it on last years models but not the ones in the store.

My Wd-60737 does not have the white bleeding issue at all. The black bars are perfect watching 480i/p or letterbox.

DoP
post #54 of 11219
Went to Fry's today and they had the 73737 for a price lower than I have seen online. I even asked the salesman if it was a mistake and he was confused for a minute. Went to the computer and checked...no mistake The picture was significantly better than the 73735 right next to it, in color realism, clarity, and low intensity detail. Very impressive. I will probably be picking it up tomorrow.

So is it worth it to get a 3 or 5 year service warranty? I think they wanted $500for 5 years.
post #55 of 11219
so Frye's warranty is still 500 after all these years. that was the same price i paid for my WD-52725 tv i got from them. I only used it once and that was the bulb replacement last year. So i lost, what, 300 dollars on it? Not worth it entirely in my opinion. i'll get the extended warranty from Mitsubishi if it is less. i forgot to call them again on that while at work Friday.
I looked the 73" and 65" 737 series while at Frye's and saw no bleeding in the letterbox bars which made me happy. The only thing i didn't care for was the haze/fuzzy screen coating they have which is the same as what Samsung dlp's have on their screens. when you see white you see the coating. look at an lcd or plasma and you don't see it. even my 52" looks clear without the haze coating effect. Not sure if that makes sense or not. Other than that and the lifelike pic quality i see in lcd's that is missing in the mitsu's, i like the tv's. the price is right. my friend said go for the 73" when i told him about it. THe salesguy said the diamond models are better in PQ and has the 120 refresh rate. I'm sure the 737's have 120 also. not sure though. i picked up a 63" stand at BB so i'd be ready for a 73" monster. Oh and the remotes are crap. but that isn't anything new. dinky plastic thing.
Now to sell my current tv and a few oddball things to help pay for the new one. it'll just barely fit in my living room between my two tower speakers. The price was the same as tigerdirect even though the price wasn't out next to the tv the guy checked for me.
post #56 of 11219
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Originally Posted by EST2423 View Post

Went to Fry's today and they had the 73737 for a price lower than I have seen online. I even asked the salesman if it was a mistake and he was confused for a minute. Went to the computer and checked...no mistake The picture was significantly better than the 73735 right next to it, in color realism, clarity, and low intensity detail. Very impressive. I will probably be picking it up tomorrow.

So is it worth it to get a 3 or 5 year service warranty? I think they wanted $500for 5 years.

if your buying a mits dlp, i would suggest an ext warranty for sure.

But you can get a Mack 3 year add on for $252 for a set under $2100. if you got it under $1700 then the mack warranty is only $232. You would have the Mits 1 year warranty then the Mack 3 yr ext warranty kicks in and gives you 4 years total and also covers 2 lamps for 3 years.
post #57 of 11219
http://www.mack-warranty.com/?gclid=...FRBbagodW3Np2Q
is this the place you're talking about? never heard of it before. is it legit and i can actually take it to a licensed mitsubishi repair place then? i have one 20 minutes from last time i called mistubishi about some cleaning questions. the website says the bulb replacement is separate but you get a 35 dollars discount if you combine.185 plus the 119 then get the discount. i just don't want the 500 warranty thing from frye's since it doesn't cover much of anything. i've checked that out already.
Should i get the diamond series or keep the extra 400 and get the 737 version?
post #58 of 11219
i just noticed the mack cam warranty thread. should i pay heed to that? the site i found online says this for the address
TedUnlimited LLC
Corporate Offices
2461 Chestnut Drive
Westlake OH 44145
Got me concerned if this was a good place or not.
post #59 of 11219
Pulled the trigger on the WD-73737 at Fry's. Got it for $1899 + California extortion sales tax of 8.75%. Did not get the warranty. For 3 years, they wanted $400 and does NOT include bulb replacement. For 5 years, it is $500, again, no bulb replacement. Did not seem worth it.
post #60 of 11219
Just got a 65737 and am loving it. Blu-ray movies look incredible on this thing. Got it at Best Buy for $1499, and they let me use a 10% off coupon. They also had 0% financing for 36 months. One of these days I'll get around to calibrating it, but have it on Natural right now.
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