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post #7501 of 11225
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Well, dimensions for the WD60C9 are 53.9" W x 36.7" H x 15.1" D and for the WD65C9 are 58.2" W x 39.5" H x 16.0" D.

Add 3-4 inches in height for the packaging and 6-8 inches in depth and width based off of my memory from the packaging of my 73" last night. I'm guessing the 60" might fit but I'd be a little surprised if the 65" did. Height will be the issue as 4x8 sheets of drywall fit perfectly. Interior height on the Odyssey is actually greater than any of the openings.

Good luck!

Thanks, my Odyssey (2001 of course) measures 43" high at the rear opening so it's possible the 65 might fit.

Fry's has the wd60C9 for $999 if I have it shipped to the store. The WD65C9 is $1138. Neither price is all that magical but I haven't found these at another Portland area B&M yet. If I have to calculate in delivery fees, it almost makes sense to go with Dell or someone else online.
post #7502 of 11225
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Originally Posted by AgingInOctal View Post

Sorry about the trivial question, but I couldn't find the answer in the specs, FAQ, or using the thread search tool:

What are the dimensions of the cartons for the WD60C9 and WD65C9?

I'm considering buying from the local Fry's store (Wilsonville, OR) but I need to know if I can fit either of them in my Honda Odyssey. I'm assuming they need to stay upright and can't be laid down.

I'll measure my 65C9 box when I get home. I haven't cut it all up yet for the recycle bin.
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So I got my set..it takes a while to 'warm' up but take a look at these dark spots on the corners. Is that normal?.. will that 'break in' after a few days? Do I need to exchange this set?

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Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

I'll measure my 65C9 box when I get home. I haven't cut it all up yet for the recycle bin.

About 42.5H 61W.
post #7505 of 11225
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Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

About 42.5H 61W.

Thanks!
post #7506 of 11225
Here's pics of my geometry. I tried changing it but not sure that I actually accomplished anything. Comments welcome!
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post #7507 of 11225
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Here's pics of my geometry. I tried changing it but not sure that I actually accomplished anything. Comments welcome!

If those are before and after. The second looks alot better.
post #7508 of 11225
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Originally Posted by bori View Post

If those are before and after. The second looks alot better.

They are, guess I should have specified that . It was actually worse out of the box but a reset made it look like the first picture. Just trying to figure out if that's normal, "within spec", or call for service.
post #7509 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Pluvious View Post

So I got my set..it takes a while to 'warm' up but take a look at these dark spots on the corners. Is that normal?.. will that 'break in' after a few days? Do I need to exchange this set?


Typical. No sweat.
post #7510 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Typical. No sweat.

Thanks for the reply. I hope it's okay.. the dark corners are bugging the heck out of me.. but I assume with time they will fill in..I've barely got 10 hours on the bulb at this point.
post #7511 of 11225
They won't fill in. That is just the way it is. This must be your first 16:9 HDTV. Everyone of my sets, CRT, DLP, LCD all do the same thing. Your second picture doesn't even have any dark corners. Usually commercials. Check out the federal warning on the beginning of movies and you'll see dark corners.
post #7512 of 11225
When viewing my PS3 I get white specks flickering all over the place. Same effect as the specks you see at a movie theater. I thought I read somewhere that this could be due to a bad cable but can't find it now. Ring a bell for anyone? It wasn't there until I switched resolution to 1080p. Looks pretty fantastic except for that.

TIA
post #7513 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Komoto View Post

Bah. Thought my eyes were going...significant screen sag in the middle center of the 65737. I can gently push it back to be pixel sharp, but then it sags back out again, making it pretty fuzzy. I use it as both a tv and a pc monitor.

I have geometry correction off because it was way worse with it on, so I don't think that would help.

Not real happy about this major defect I only really discovered yesterday (like I said, thought our eyes were going). Can't return it now, not sure it can be repaired.

Almost want to go back to my Sammy HLN617W 720p set, it's still great after 7 years, but it needs a new color wheel, the bearings are shot. Not happy.

You don't say when you bought the set. Is it still under warranty? If so, call Mits and complain about it. From what I understand, screen sag is due to the screens not being properly mounted in the frame. It seems like they should be able to fix this.

Good luck getting it fixed.
post #7514 of 11225
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

When viewing my PS3 I get white specks flickering all over the place. Same effect as the specks you see at a movie theater. I thought I read somewhere that this could be due to a bad cable but can't find it now. Ring a bell for anyone? It wasn't there until I switched resolution to 1080p. Looks pretty fantastic except for that.

TIA

I remember reading several post on this thread a while back on this topic. A good 1.3a HDMI cable should solve the problem. Note that good does not mean expensive. Go to monoprice.com and check out their 1.3a HDMI cables.
post #7515 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Pluvious View Post

Thanks for the reply. I hope it's okay.. the dark corners are bugging the heck out of me.. but I assume with time they will fill in..I've barely got 10 hours on the bulb at this point.

FWIW- Another thing to consider here is angle of view.

If you deviate from looking at the screen from dead center perpendicular, the first thing that happens is that the corners will get dark.

Looks like you shot the first image looking up and the second is closer to dead center with less apparent darkening in the corners.
post #7516 of 11225
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Originally Posted by MarkEHansen View Post

I remember reading several post on this thread a while back on this topic. A good 1.3a HDMI cable should solve the problem. Note that good does not mean expensive. Go to monoprice.com and check out their 1.3a HDMI cables.

Ok, that's what I was thinking. I don't spend big bucks on cables . I've used monoprice before and love them. Unfortunately the wife invited people over after church tomorrow to watch some Planet Earth BR's. I think I have a couple other cables somewhere. Just need to find them. Thanks!
post #7517 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Repdetect View Post

FWIW- Another thing to consider here is angle of view.

If you deviate from looking at the screen from dead center perpendicular, the first thing that happens is that the corners will get dark.

Looks like you shot the first image looking up and the second is closer to dead center with less apparent darkening in the corners.

That must be it.. the dark corners are not as obvious with a full screen of picture.. but white sure does show it.
I only zoomed with my camera ...the angle was the same by the way.

I guess I'll have to live with it. Not sure I like fuzzy edges to my picture though. Kinda like having cataracts. Luckily I have a plasma in my room when I want 'quality'.
post #7518 of 11225
Your plasma does the same thing. Unless you are seeing something else that the picture(s) don't show? If you aren't getting the SAME picture on both, return the Mits and get a replacement.
post #7519 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Your plasma does the same thing. Unless you are seeing something else that the picture(s) don't show? If you aren't getting the SAME picture on both, return the Mits and get a replacement.

WHAT?.. I beg to differ. My plasma does not have black/shadows in the corners! Nor should any for that matter. I believe you are mistaken.

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It almost looks like a flashlights image with the ring in the middle

post #7520 of 11225
Either you aren't admitting it or you are talking about something different than am, because EVERY 16:9 set has this. And it isn't on all commercials, just some. Actual programming rarely if ever displays the dark corners.

Now, you can get all defensive and say I am mistaken, but this is fact. Read again what I wrote. I said:
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If you aren't getting the SAME picture on both, return the Mits and get a replacement.

post #7521 of 11225
These sets do not have dark corners like what is shown in the pictures. I don't care what anybody says, I have owned three Mitsubishi dlp sets in the last three years and none of mine did that.

There can be some diminished light output near the corners depending on your viewing angle do to the high gain screen but nothing nearly as noticeable as what is shown and definatly not if viewing the set strait on.

I know my obsessive compulsive nature would never tolerate that much lack of uniformity. Get it fixed.

On a side note, I got a call from the service tech that was going to come out and look at my set's lighter black level in the center of the screen and he said he knew what was wrong and he didn't need to come look at it. They are ordering a new light engine.
post #7522 of 11225
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It almost looks like a flashlights image with the ring in the middle

The lack of said flashlight image in the second picture of CNN you posted, tells me it is a programming issue and NOT the TV. That same programing on your plasma will produce the same results.
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These sets do not have dark corners like what is shown in the pictures. I don't care what anybody says, I have owned three Mitsubishi dlp sets in the last three years and none of mine did that.

No, these sets do not have dark corners on the top left/right corners as is evidenced in the shot of CNN. http://img714.imageshack.us/i/img0050ic.jpg/ However, it is indicative of the programming as shown in the first and reposted picture. I don't care what anyone says, I have owned different HDTV types and this is a fact of 16:9 programming SOME OF THE TIME. Anybody that says different is either in denial or doesn't care enough to see it in the first place. This issue is not limited to Mitsubishi TV's alone but also Sony, Dell & Toshiba to name a few.

As I said before, and am saying again for the last time:
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If you aren't getting the SAME picture on both, return the Mits and get a replacement.

As for getting a new LE without a service call, congrats as that likely will cure the problem since most any issue with PQ can be remidied with a new LE, and is the beauty of these sets.
post #7523 of 11225
Just got the Mitsubishi WD-65837 for my birthday what an amazing tv!!! It replaced my calibrated Sony kdl-40xbr2. Huge difference in picture quality of the Sony now I get that looking through the window feeling. Everything is so lifelike. Especially this tv is 25 inches bigger. My wife and I couldn't see anything with the Sony sitting 10-12 feet away. Now anything is right on the money!!! Great depth, shadow detail, better colors, higher contrast, and darker blacks than my Sony had. Blu-ray movies and sports never looked better. No more LCD's for me.
post #7524 of 11225
Happy b-day!

Yes, DLP is better than LCD hands down in my opinion. Spread the word and congratulations!
post #7525 of 11225
Thanks Splicer010 for the birthday wishes I will definitely spread the word and enjoy this amazing set!!!!
post #7526 of 11225
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Ok, that's what I was thinking. I don't spend big bucks on cables . I've used monoprice before and love them. Unfortunately the wife invited people over after church tomorrow to watch some Planet Earth BR's. I think I have a couple other cables somewhere. Just need to find them. Thanks!

New cable did the trick!
post #7527 of 11225
My wife and I were at a local Living Spaces furniture store yesterday which also has a Pauls TV operating within it. There we saw the 75" Laservue, the 82-837 and the 73-738 (yes, I said 738) side by side from left to right. We wanted to see the 82" of course and I asked the salesman for a remote. He gladly gave me one and I proceeded to check to see if the 82" was on brilliant or not. Apparently the 82-837 series does not have a brilliant mode??? Neither the salesman or I could find it. I was a little surprised as just the week before I adjusted an 82" set to brilliant at a Mathis Bros, but that set was the 82-737 series. I could swear that the 73-837 sitting next to the 82-737, at Mathis Bros, had a brilliant setting that we set it to...

Anyway, we checked the 73-738 model and it had brilliant, we set it to that and OMG that set looked unbelievably good...almost as good as the Laservue. The LV was extremely bright from all vertical and horizontal angles and its color was extremely rich, the 73-738 was very nice and bright in brilliant mode and the color was very nice too...I do have to say that the 73-738 looked much better than the 73-837 we saw last week. The 73-738 was sitting on top of a 3' tall stand so it was way above our seated eye level and it still didn't have any significant degredation to the picture. Unfortunately the 82-837 did have the "sweet spot" syndrome and was sitting way too high as compared to our seated eye level.

Of course, the 82" lacked the "pop" sitting in between these other two sets but it still had a good picture. If I could only have been able to get the 82" into brilliant mode I'm sure it would've looked much better.
- Do the xx-738 series models not offer a brilliant mode or were we missing something???

The salesman said that their store was the largest selling 82" Mitsu store in California and that he has never received any complaints from those who had bought the 82" set. He claimed many of the buyer's neighbors would soon come in and purchase an 82" set after seeing it in thier neighbor's home. I have to give the salesman credit as he was EXTREMELY knowledgable about all the sets and the features each series had, or didn't have...(Is it possible that he lurks in these forums too?)
post #7528 of 11225
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Originally Posted by Pluvious View Post

WHAT?.. I beg to differ. My plasma does not have black/shadows in the corners! Nor should any for that matter. I believe you are mistaken.

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It almost looks like a flashlights image with the ring in the middle


I have a WD 65737 and don't see this. This is my first DLP TV, so I'm not an expert, but that sure doesn't look normal to me. I just turned my set on to double check and, no - I definitely do not see darkening in the corners.

If I were you, I would get a replacement (if possible) or call Mits for service otherwise.

Best of luck.
post #7529 of 11225
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I have to give the salesman credit as he was EXTREMELY knowledgable about all the sets and the features each series had, or didn't have...(Is it possible that he lurks in these forums too?)

If he did the first thing he would have told you is to NOT set these sets to brilliant. That is a mode that's not designed for in home viewing but instead to make the set as bright as possible and the gamma pushed to extreme levels. Color gain is also pushed way up past any kind of reasonable level. Its not even remotely an accurate picture, set them to natural/low.

Depending on what you inputs are set to you may not have access to brilliant. for example game mode doenst have a brilliant setting.
post #7530 of 11225
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Originally Posted by MarkEHansen View Post

I have a WD 65737 and don't see this. This is my first DLP TV, so I'm not an expert, but that sure doesn't look normal to me. I just turned my set on to double check and, no - I definitely do not see darkening in the corners.

If I were you, I would get a replacement (if possible) or call Mits for service otherwise.

Best of luck.

I agree fully. I have a new 65C9 AND a 50 plasma and neither have any dark corners like that on any material. I for one could never watch a tv that looks like you're looking into a tunnel. I would definately contact Mits on this......
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