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post #31 of 142
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

You are paying for what the publisher is offering. If the publisher isn't offering Yoda then you're not paying for him. You are paying for all the other Soul Calibur characters. It's not like Namco lied or anything, they were quite clear one character was playable on PS3 and one on 360.

Whether or not the data is located on the disc is irrelevant.



I never heard this about Forza 3. In fact Forza 3 hasn't even been officially announced. I think you're thinking of a rumor making the rounds regarding Gran Turismo 5.

No the forza team is quite vocal on their own forums the special edition with all future dlc's is one of the things they have planned.
post #32 of 142
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Originally Posted by kabob983 View Post

There are a few times when I'm alright with DLC, I might not buy it but I don't have a gripe with it. I bought the 2nd GoW 1's DLC maps, as well as the CoD 4 map pack, but it just seems that they actually took time in developing them. Heck, even if the GoW 2 map pack was finished when the game was completed, as long as they didn't put it out for a few months I wouldn't have a problem with it like I do. That's just insulting.

Typically though I steer clear of pay content. Forza 2 sort of owned me but that was my own durn fault... Forza 3 is doing it right though. You can buy the game as normal or you can buy a special edition of the game which will allow you do download all future DLC for free. If it's $20 extra or less I'm buying it as I own ever single DLC add on for Forza 2 (~$30?), I'm hoping it'll be $10, good way to encourage the hardcore fans to buy it.

I don't have a fundamental issue with DLC that is not included on the disk i.e maps, levels, new cities(think GTA content). But I do take issue with paying to unlock something that is already on the disk, which you've already paid for when you bought the game. No-one will ever convince me that it's a good practice, and I consider it pretty unethical. My other reasons for not buying DLC is because it's not something I can sell off if I choose to sell the respective game. At that point it's just worthless data taking up HDD space, but that's another issue for another day.
post #33 of 142
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

You are paying for what the publisher is offering. If the publisher isn't offering Yoda then you're not paying for him. You are paying for all the other Soul Calibur characters. It's not like Namco lied or anything, they were quite clear one character was playable on PS3 and one on 360.

Whether or not the data is located on the disc is irrelevant.

I don't recall Namco, prior to game release, announcing that both Vader and Yoda were already on the disk, and that you had to pay to unlock the other character. It's one thing if I owned the PS3 version, and they offered Yoda as additional DLC. In that case, I have the choice not to download him. It's another to have Yoda already on the disk, and I have to pay to unlock him. In that case, I technically already paid for Yoda when I bought the game, and now I have to pay more to unlock him? I don't recall a disclaimer on the game cover saying ' this game contains locked features which you will need to pay for to unlock'. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
post #34 of 142
No, you didn't pay for Yoda, you paid for whatever Namco said you were paying for. The ball is totally in the publisher's court on this one.

Just because its on the disc doesn't mean you own him or anything else on it. You paid for what Namco was offering to you at launch which was no Yoda. Whether or not its on the disc does not matter, you are not automatically entitled to all the contents of the disc. If the game box said "play as Yoda or Vader" and you found out you'd have to pay for Yoda then it'd be a different issue... but Namco was quite clear he was playable on one platform and Vader on the other.

This is quite common keep in mind in other areas of software... for example IIRC every Vista disc sold is the same data wise, but what gets installed is dependent on what version you buy. You're not entitled to Vista Ultimate just because the data for it is on the Home Basic disc you buy.
post #35 of 142
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

Just because its on the disc doesn't mean you own him or anything else on it. You paid for what Namco was offering to you at launch which was no Yoda. Whether or not its on the disc does not matter, you are not automatically entitled to all the contents of the disc. If the game box said "play as Yoda or Vader" and you found out you'd have to pay for Yoda then it'd be a different issue... but Namco was quite clear he was playable on one platform and Vader on the other.

Fair enough, it's just not something I agree with. I think the game box should state clearly that there are locked contents which require more money than what you're paying upfront. It requires no effort on the developer's part to do this, and the potential buyer can't then claim to be unaware. It then is up to said potential buyer if they still wish to buy the game with that knowledge in hand. I can guess why you'd never see such a disclaimer though. I recall Namco saying Vader on PS3, Yoda on 360. What I don't recall is them saying both are on the disk, but you need to pay to unlock the other character.

In any event, I voice my displeasure loudest with my wallet, not typing on a message board.
post #36 of 142
I thought this was a MvC2 thread ...

Jason
post #37 of 142
I was just about to make that complaint too...
post #38 of 142
I have a solution. Put Yoda in MVC2. I'd like to teach that little punk a lesson with the Hulk
post #39 of 142
STOP! Hammer-time!


o wait its MVC2. 2 legit...2 legit 2 quit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdk1g...eature=related
post #40 of 142
Personal favorite:
"JUGGERNAUT PUNCH...."I'M JUGGERNAUT!"

I hate that guy...
post #41 of 142
Anyone looked on amazon since this announcement and noticed the prices have already slightly dropped for the PS2/xbox/dreamcast versions?
post #42 of 142
Everyone is probably selling their copy now because they will be worthless in a few months. I'd do it but I sold my MvC2 DC many years ago.
post #43 of 142
Actually Ebay is where the humor is at, I posted on Anandtech that a few months ago there were about 10 copies to be found of MvsC. This morning there were 148...some starting as low as $0.99. People who wanted to hold out for as high of a premium as possible suddenly find themselves in trouble. The same thing will happen with FF7 if/when it ever is released for PS3.
post #44 of 142
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

Everyone is probably selling their copy now because they will be worthless in a few months. I'd do it but I sold my MvC2 DC many years ago.

Yep, even though I'm getting the 360 version I still want a physical copy(for dreamcast), but like you said prices will drop bigtime soon, so I can wait.
post #45 of 142
I'm still keeping my DC and Xbox version. I regret getting rid of a lot of things, and no longer sell/trade. I didn't even know how valuable this game was until like 6 months ago anyways.
post #46 of 142
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Originally Posted by eatenbacktolife View Post

I'm still keeping my DC and Xbox version. I regret getting rid of a lot of things, and no longer sell/trade. I didn't even know how valuable this game was until like 6 months ago anyways.

Yeah I used to sell/trade with reckless abandon as well, I've gotten much better in recent years. And to think I had this damn game for my dreamcast years ago...
post #47 of 142
Wow the crisp filtering mode looks great!
post #48 of 142
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Originally Posted by NoThru22 View Post

Wow the crisp filtering mode looks great!

It's no HD redraw (SSFT2HDR spoiled me), but it certainly does look better than most filtering methods, especially the ones found in most emulators. Looks like that'll be the way I'm playing!
post #49 of 142
am I excited? Yes I am, but I'd like a redraw myself. When this game was popular, I distinctly remember being more into tekken 4 or maybe it was 3 I can't remember. I thought it was too cartooney at the time, plus I was owning fools in the arcade with paul phoenix in tekken. But I'll be in line to buy this one because I love capcom fighters
post #50 of 142
I played this game about a year ago in a Vegas arcade with 2 buddies, we were on the machine for hours. Back in the day the three of us used to play it to death on dreamcast. It shocked me that we had so much fun with it last year, so at least for me, it has stood the test of time.
post #51 of 142
redrawing is impossible. Capcom doesn't own the rights to the marvel charecters as is. The loophole that allows for the rerelease is that Capcom can only rerelease the game as a download(using only the original licensed charecters). Any retail release would require a new contract with marvel holdings. This is why there's no Wii version annouced.
post #52 of 142
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Originally Posted by whiskey > work View Post

am I excited? Yes I am, but I'd like a redraw myself. When this game was popular, I distinctly remember being more into tekken 4 or maybe it was 3 I can't remember. I thought it was too cartooney at the time, plus I was owning fools in the arcade with paul phoenix in tekken. But I'll be in line to buy this one because I love capcom fighters

Tekken is easily my favorite fighter series but MvsC is probably #2.

When this was out Tekken Tag was the big game BTW ^^. Still probably my favorite Tekken game.
post #53 of 142
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

redrawing is impossible. Capcom doesn't own the rights to the marvel charecters as is. The loophole that allows for the rerelease is that Capcom can only rerelease the game as a download(using only the original licensed charecters). Any retail release would require a new contract with marvel holdings. This is why there's no Wii version annouced.

Where did you get this information? I was interested to see if there was some sort of deal that could result in a new MvC 3 on the Tatsunoko vs. Capcom engine.
post #54 of 142
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Originally Posted by NoThru22 View Post

Where did you get this information? I was interested to see if there was some sort of deal that could result in a new MvC 3 on the Tatsunoko vs. Capcom engine.

Capcom hasn't held the Marvel license for many years. I believe Activision holds it now. There's a post on Kotaku now where Christian Svensson explains why they can't do a Wii version - the game is too big for Wiiware and they can't release a boxed version.

It's why the PS2 and Xbox versions of this game had such low print runs. The chance of an MvC3 is still very slim.
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post #56 of 142
Better side by side of the graphical options. Thanks for the links, Jeff.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/28/ma...inpage_joystiq
post #57 of 142
nothru any clarification about the tatsunoko vs capcom game?
post #58 of 142
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Originally Posted by NoThru22 View Post

Better side by side of the graphical options. Thanks for the links, Jeff.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/28/ma...inpage_joystiq

I'm thinking I'll be playing on "crisp". Looks good to me.
post #59 of 142
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Originally Posted by tronn View Post

nothru any clarification about the tatsunoko vs capcom game?

The problem with TvC is that many different companies own the US rights to the Tatsunoko characters in the game. Because of that we are probably never gonna see it here. Hopefully though Capcom moves the game to PSP or PS3 in Japan where it'd be trivial to import it, because I really want to try it but don't want to muck with my girlfriend's Wii.
post #60 of 142
TvC is a 3D entry into the versus franchise and uses many of the same mechanics from Marvel vs. Capcom. It's only out on the Wii and arcades in Japan and No1laing is right about the licensing issues. Capcom has gone on record saying they'd like to bring it out here, but that's as far as they'll commit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatsunoko_vs._Capcom
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