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post #61 of 747
5/13/09 at 7:45pm
Can't really say since I have only seen other models at stores. But I can say that the pq on this model is tremendous. On "2001" there are "flashlights" on many screens that should be pure black. Other scenes are perfect. I hope calibration will solve this. Viewing blu-rays is wierd because it is like being on the set and viewing it in person. Corners appear to be fine. I did see some motion blur in "The Fifth Element" but only for a brief moment. Will start calibration when I receive the replacement remote from Samsung. Sound is fine, no problems. Purchased from 6th Ave for $2888 and I am very pleased.
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post #62 of 747
5/14/09 at 12:24am
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Originally Posted by bunyun316 View Post

In your B8000 pics I see you have the dim corners. My UN55B7100 has this, and there is light flashlighting. I returned this set to get it replaced for a new one, and it does the same thing. Why do these sets do this? I think it is a great TV as I switched from plasma to LCD. Now I am questioning my purchase.
Does anyone know how these sets compare against regular WCG-Cathode LCD's. I had the chance to get a Sony XBR-9 52". Now I am wondering if I should have went that route. The Samsung has an amazing HD/Blu-Ray picture, but the dim corners and flashlighting do bother me. I wonder if they will fix these issues. Let me know how your set is doing. It would be nice to compare the 2 models.

I read this somewhere else in another thread, but I'm wondering if the corner screws are on too tight and the screen is getting pinched. Are there screws directly in the back of the corners? If so, is anyone willing to slightly loosen just the corner screws to see if it releases some tension. It totally appears like when you put your finger on an LCD screen and lightly put force on it. It creates a dark area around your finger. I'm wondering if Samsung's factory has a bad torque setting and tightening these screws/corners too tightly.
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post #63 of 747
5/14/09 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

Here are 4 quick pictures I took with my camera phone to shut this idiot up. I will take some better quality ones when I get the time. What do you have to say now?

As you can see the light at the bottom is blue instead of white like the 7100 model and the bezel is a little bit thicker but overall still thin.


Hi... I am looking at your first picture and it seems to me that the tv is kind of ticker than the 7000 serie?? Or is it just the pics that are lying a litle?? Can you messaure the screens deapth?

Jens
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post #64 of 747
5/18/09 at 2:01am
mfarris214, so you've had a bit of time to evaluate this TV now. Are there any new impressions?
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post #65 of 747
5/18/09 at 3:42am
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

Sure thing man. I thought these forums were meant to talk to fellow owners and help potential owners out with advise, not some bashers forum. I swear this site is full of haters.

Why doesn't everyone stick to the topics and stop the bashing or shut up!

Your hobbie definitely is auditioning TV's to go through 8 in one year but I'm surprised you haven't retuned your camera as the pic's posted are extremely poor quality to judge anything. I would suspect it's a phone camera as a Fisher Price childrens camera should outdo those posted pics which provide no clarity to judge anything at all.

You need a BB friend in the camera dept or one would guess your OCD nature in LCD panels do not extend to your photography/camera. Just surprised your friend at BB still has a job if they've let you return 8 TV's to be sold as discounted "Open Box" units. Not to say your wrong but the cost to the retailor that gets passed onto all consumers and alters return policies in the future may suggest your seeking a Holy Grail that may not exist. It's easy to be a critic as one truly has a plethora of things to nitpick but if nothing floats your boat to be a keeper then where is the credibility in either direction. In your eyes is anything a Keeper?

Viewed the B8000 yesterday and it was quite excellent IMO but of course I cannot delve into home ownership experience but I've found the quality panels perform better in one's home than they do in store store easily but in one's home you have 24/7 to nitpick every detail if that's one choice - as members we need to judge the importance of the nits to make our picks.
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post #66 of 747
5/18/09 at 4:37am
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

I have actually had 8 different sets of TVS this year if it matters. I just want something I like. Haven't found it yet. Not that it's any of your business. I also happen to have a friend who works at Best Buy and I get to return what I want, when I want and get full price ")

You know, if you want to buy eight TVs in one year that's your business. However, if you return them all (or even seven of them) to Best Buy, then that makes it the business of everyone who shops there and might get stuck with one of your returned items. Do you not think these retailers factor the costs of returns into the price of their merchandise? It's egomaniacs like you who are going to wind up ruining the return policy for the rest of us who truly may have received a faulty set rather than just wanting to satisfy our own agendas.

And, to tag onto Westa's thoughts, I hope your friend at Best Buy gets fired over this abuse!
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post #67 of 747
5/18/09 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

Here are 4 quick pictures I took with my camera phone to shut this idiot up. I will take some better quality ones when I get the time. What do you have to say now?

As you can see the light at the bottom is blue instead of white like the 7100 model and the bezel is a little bit thicker but overall still thin.

Awsome set man. Btw where did you buy your Blu Ray rack? Saw it in the first pic. Can you PM me.

Thanks bro.
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post #68 of 747
5/18/09 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

You know, if you want to buy eight TVs in one year that's your business. However, if you return them all (or even seven of them) to Best Buy, then that makes it the business of everyone who shops there and might get stuck with one of your returned items. Do you not think these retailers factor the costs of returns into the price of their merchandise? It's egomaniacs like you who are going to wind up ruining the return policy for the rest of us who truly may have received a faulty set rather than just wanting to satisfy our own agendas.

And, to tag onto Westa's thoughts, I hope your friend at Best Buy gets fired over this abuse!

well that's one thing.

more importantly to us who use 'official owner's threads' as a way to help make informed decisions, the owner's threads started by this individual (2 so far this year for samsung models, 2 or more last year for sony models; he went through all the sony's last year including the xbr8 so he says), the owner's threads he started are less than lame with no information provided in the initial post and very little almost no meaningful analysis. the whole quality and tenor of the thread suffers, unfortunately.

if nothing else, someone who has actually had all those sets in their home could at least provide some perspective set to set that not many other people could.


TVbc
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post #69 of 747
5/18/09 at 9:01am
why do people get so worked up over what people do with their money.... it is their money, if they want to burn it for fun, that is fine with me, because they earned it! The more people like him the further the stock market climbs, which help me
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post #70 of 747
5/18/09 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by TVbc View Post

the owner's threads he started are less than lame with no information provided in the initial post and very little almost no meaningful analysis. the whole quality and tenor of the thread suffers, unfortunately.
TVbc

The blame does not belong on the thread creator's shoulders alone. I see a hand full of forum members, yourself included taking this thread off topic. If you or someone else has an issue, just report the thread or post. Why waste my (and other prospective owners) time with needless flaiming?
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post #71 of 747
5/18/09 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Vermifuge View Post

The blame does not belong on the thread creator's shoulders alone. I see a hand full of forum members, yourself included taking this thread off topic. If you or someone else has an issue, just report the thread or post. Why waste my (and other prospective owners) time with needless flaiming?

Ditto that! Why do people get so worked up over what someone does or doesn't do?
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post #72 of 747
5/18/09 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post

why do people get so worked up over what people do with their money.... it is their money, if they want to burn it for fun, that is fine with me, because they earned it! The more people like him the further the stock market climbs, which help me

You missed the point. I don't care if he buys 20 TVs a year. However, I also don't want to go into a store and take a chance getting a "used" TV, no matter why it was returned.
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post #73 of 747
5/18/09 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

You missed the point. I don't care if he buys 20 TVs a year. However, I also don't want to go into a store and take a chance getting a "used" TV, no matter why it was returned.

When you say "used", if you are referring to the store repackaging the returned set as new then that is the store's fault and not his. Now I'm contributing to the "off topic-ness" (lol) of this thread; sorry. Just keep the TV info coming... any means necessary.
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post #74 of 747
5/18/09 at 2:51pm
Seriously, are there NO owners of this 8000 set besides mfarris who can comment on the PQ, black level, etc of this set? Can we get back on topic here?
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post #75 of 747
5/18/09 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by jonLavs View Post

Seriously, are there NO owners of this 8000 set besides mfarris who can comment on the PQ, black level, etc of this set? Can we get back on topic here?

Mine is paid for (quite a good deal too) i'm just waiting for it to come in. i'll do my best to report back but iam no expert
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post #76 of 747
5/18/09 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by Vermifuge View Post

Mine is paid for (quite a good deal too) i'm just waiting for it to come in. i'll do my best to report back but iam no expert

Thanks, and no worries about being an expert or not. "Experts" can be a bit too nitpicky even about the most minute details. Just give your honest opinion about the TV and describe it as much as you can.
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post #77 of 747
5/18/09 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

You missed the point. I don't care if he buys 20 TVs a year. However, I also don't want to go into a store and take a chance getting a "used" TV, no matter why it was returned.

so let me get this straight, you are upset with a guy for operating within the rules?? So do you also get mad at people who drive 70 mph on a 70 mph highway because you feel like it is not safe.... you can't get mad at people that aren't doing anything wrong, just because you disagree with it..
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post #78 of 747
5/18/09 at 7:48pm
Okay so I went to BB today and had a hard long look at the UN55B8000 model they had on display. I even "stole" their remote for it and played with the TV settings a bit. They definitely had it turned all the way up using Dynamic and brightness set to 10. Before I say anything more, I can say that for the most part the PQ was amazing looking and had a lot of POP. I'm sure that was due to the settings being so high, but the PQ from the bluray was very nice. One of the best sets I've seen so far. The black levels were VERY black and the colors were very vibrant. Everything looked really nice like sharpness and there was no blooming that I could seen on letters or anything like that. Also, I wanted to check out the off angle viewing to see if there were any issues. I went beyond 45 degrees and did not see any tremendous amount of washout. It was clearly easy to view at 45 degrees if you even watch at that angle. So there should not be any talk/issues about that one.

HOWEVER, and here is the kicker for me, on all-white or mostly white screens, you can see some uniformity issues. I didn't notice it at first because I was too busy looking at the vibrant colors. I noticed the dimmed corners but also a portion of the screen at the top just a bit right of center was dimmed for some reason. Now I was really looking for this so if you're just busy looking at the image, you may gloss over it.

While I really wanted to think this TV was something special, this issue is something I can see I won't be able to let go. I bet for the non-hardcore viewer and for probably 90-95% of the movies/games/etc people will view, you won't have this all-white screen much. So, you probably won't even notice it. I know that when the TV was playing some movie clip with all colors and basically non-all-white, you can't even see the uniformity issues. So for those people, I would hands down recommend this TV. For you 1% who are hardcore/nitpicky bunch, don't get this TV.

I will probably wait until the 55B9000 is release and take a look at the screen before making any purchases. I hope that the 55B9000 removes all/most of these uniformity issues with the local dimming.
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post #79 of 747
5/19/09 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by jonLavs View Post

Seriously, are there NO owners of this 8000 set besides mfarris who can comment on the PQ, black level, etc of this set? Can we get back on topic here?

Here you go:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post16482343
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post #80 of 747
5/19/09 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by ibis View Post

Dude, stop lying. That is a B6000. You just Photoshopped the pics to make the 6 look like an 8!

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Originally Posted by Vermifuge View Post

The blame does not belong on the thread creator's shoulders alone. I see a hand full of forum members, yourself included taking this thread off topic. If you or someone else has an issue, just report the thread or post. Why waste my (and other prospective owners) time with needless flaiming?

They are not flaming.. They are showing evidences that this guy information is not reliable to say the least... Besides, the pics are fake...
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post #81 of 747
5/19/09 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Mello01 View Post

They are not flaming.. They are showing evidences that this guy information is not reliable to say the least... Besides, the pics are fake...


It appeared to me that ibis was joking. I have no reason to believe the pics have been faked.

EDIT: Just got back from lunch and I spent about 40 min in Magnolia. I was able to take a close look at the 6000 vs. the 8000

• The 6000 series has a white Power LED (looks red throught he frame) the 8000 has a blue Power LED
• The 6000 series has the bottom part of the frame slightly rounded. The 8000 has all sides flat.
• The 6000 series has rounded corners that meat without a seam. The 8000 corners come to more of a point with a seam that makes it look more angular
• The 6000 series has a color that fades from a red or grey color to clear. the 8000 has a clear fram that has an almost mirror like quality
• The 6000 series has a matching ToC base. the 8000 has a brushed metal base.

Looking at the pics it's clear the TV pictured is an 8000.
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post #82 of 747
5/19/09 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by Vermifuge View Post

It appeared to me that ibis was joking. I have no reason to believe the pics have been faked.

EDIT: Just got back from lunch and I spent about 40 min in Magnolia. I was able to take a close look at the 6000 vs. the 8000

The 6000 series has a white Power LED (looks red throught he frame) the 8000 has a blue Power LED
The 6000 series has the bottom part of the frame slightly rounded. The 8000 has all sides flat.
The 6000 series has rounded corners that meat without a seam. The 8000 corners come to more of a point with a seam that makes it look more angular
The 6000 series has a color that fades from a red or grey color to clear. the 8000 has a clear fram that has an almost mirror like quality
The 6000 series has a matching ToC base. the 8000 has a brushed metal base.

Looking at the pics it's clear the TV pictured is an 8000.

Believe-me Vermifuge those pictures are fake...
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post #83 of 747
5/19/09 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by Mello01 View Post

Believe-me Vermifuge those pictures are fake...

I looked again. The 4th image is key. This TV has a Blue power light, and the bottom of the frame is flat It's hard to clearly see the edge of the frame but to me, it looks closer to an 8000 then an X100. BTW this is key. The 6 and 7 series X100 screens use the gray ToC not the X000. The 8 series only comes in gray.

This TV is clearly not a red ToC. If it were the box would be a 7100. I'm not even sure if there is a 6100. I don't see one on the samsung site.

After process of elimination this set must be a B8000
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post #84 of 747
5/20/09 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by jonLavs View Post

Okay so I went to BB today and had a hard long look at the UN55B8000 model they had on display. I even "stole" their remote for it and played with the TV settings a bit. They definitely had it turned all the way up using Dynamic and brightness set to 10. Before I say anything more, I can say that for the most part the PQ was amazing looking and had a lot of POP. I'm sure that was due to the settings being so high, but the PQ from the bluray was very nice. One of the best sets I've seen so far. The black levels were VERY black and the colors were very vibrant. Everything looked really nice like sharpness and there was no blooming that I could seen on letters or anything like that. Also, I wanted to check out the off angle viewing to see if there were any issues. I went beyond 45 degrees and did not see any tremendous amount of washout. It was clearly easy to view at 45 degrees if you even watch at that angle. So there should not be any talk/issues about that one.

HOWEVER, and here is the kicker for me, on all-white or mostly white screens, you can see some uniformity issues. I didn't notice it at first because I was too busy looking at the vibrant colors. I noticed the dimmed corners but also a portion of the screen at the top just a bit right of center was dimmed for some reason. Now I was really looking for this so if you're just busy looking at the image, you may gloss over it.

While I really wanted to think this TV was something special, this issue is something I can see I won't be able to let go. I bet for the non-hardcore viewer and for probably 90-95% of the movies/games/etc people will view, you won't have this all-white screen much. So, you probably won't even notice it. I know that when the TV was playing some movie clip with all colors and basically non-all-white, you can't even see the uniformity issues. So for those people, I would hands down recommend this TV. For you 1% who are hardcore/nitpicky bunch, don't get this TV.

I will probably wait until the 55B9000 is release and take a look at the screen before making any purchases. I hope that the 55B9000 removes all/most of these uniformity issues with the local dimming.

So, I was at BB again today and looked at some 46" models and I did not see the same uniformity issues I saw on the 55". This leads me to believe that there are some manufacturing issues such as the inside screws that hold the screen on is too tight. On an all-white image, the whole screen was white with no dim corners or other areas on the screen. The picture again was wow and if there aren't any uniformity issues, I would recommend getting this TV.
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post #85 of 747
5/20/09 at 5:43pm
does anyone know how to get rid of motion blur on this set. I have the blur reduction to 10 and the judder to 0 yet there still is some blurring. also the pick is great for hd only, sd is bad and also this set is only good durring light scenes. dark scenes seem washed out and blurring seems to be more obvious. Any one know any good settings that might help resolve my issues.
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post #86 of 747
5/20/09 at 6:42pm
I got my 55" yesterday and the picture is stunning. But I'm also going from a 32" SD tv to HD. I have some flashlighting. Most of which was fixed after adjusting the picture. Some of it is still there. I think most that could be fixed with a firmware update.
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post #87 of 747
5/20/09 at 9:49pm
I checked the 52" 8000 at Frys 1 day. They had Destiny's child's concert on. The black and the color was just insane!! Everyone popped out of the screen. The constrast was incredible, especially between the dark scene in the crowd and Beyonce with all kinds of lighting on/behind her. Wonderful scene.

That really got me thinking about it. So, I went back to the same Frys again next day. They didn't have it on, but instead ESPN SD which looks absolutely horrible. So, the sales guy was nice enough to play Iron Man (blu-ray) for me. It was so so only. A little black crush in some scene.

It's surely a very nice display. But the material / source that plays on it is very very important when you do comparison. BTW, they play that Destiny child's concert at another Samsung B750 and it was equally stunning. So, I really think it's the Blu-ray disc. I think I will buy it as a reference disc for my Sharp.
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post #88 of 747
6/2/09 at 8:42pm
Tomorrow I will be ordering the 55" 8000. It is a little scary: to pay that much for a TV and ordering it over the internet.

If it wasn't such a damn great PQ, I would not be doing this.

Going to order through Cleveland Plasma. From everything I have read about them, they seem to be a trusted source.
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post #89 of 747
6/2/09 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

Tomorrow I will be ordering the 55" 8000. It is a little scary: to pay that much for a TV and ordering it over the internet.

If it wasn't such a damn great PQ, I would not be doing this.

Going to order through Cleveland Plasma. From everything I have read about them, they seem to be a trusted source.

I wouldn't worry about ordering from Cleveland Plasma. I haven't heard a negative comment regarding their service. Please keep us informed as this thread seems to be going downhill do to a lack of actual owners posting. Good luck with the new set.
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post #90 of 747
6/3/09 at 9:28am
I bought the Un55B8000 from Best Buy three days ago. Yeah, i paid full retail plus the warranty. Not cheap. But i could not stand the thought of buying something like this over the internet.
I am very happy with the set. The quality of the HD blew me away. Initially i was put off by that super clear "soap opera" look, but now i am intrigued by watching movies in a new light, so to say. I have tweeked the calibration settings using suggestions from this forum, and its been helpfull, but i also found them to rather subjective. Its a contant adjustment battle depending on the content you are viewing.
Yes, i can see the flashlight effect, but only during fade outs or transitions between menues and such, never during actual viewing.
No, i have not seen any uneven , dark or light, corners.
I really have not noticed any motion blur.
I do have to use game mode, and even turn off the 240 hz mode for video games. I do wish there was a easier way to do this without having to go into the menu everytime i switch between gaming and movie watching.
This is the first LCD televison i have owned. Up till now i was never satisfied with the technology. But the quality of the color and and super HD performance really won me over.
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