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post #61 of 239
Downloading the demo right now off the euro store.
post #62 of 239
I am giddy but I hope you can turn off the ball blurr effect that was in the Pulse video. That wasn't in FX. I thought it looked about as fast as FX (which is just a little too fast but tolerable).
post #63 of 239
Let's just be clear, just played demo. This is miles and miles from being anywhere near as good as Timeshock! I'm still not convinced I even like it yet.
post #64 of 239
Looks like you can download Pro Pinball Timeshock from CNET. I'll try it when I get home.
post #65 of 239
I've played three of the four tables, and I like 'em. Changed the flippers to R2 and L2 and off I went. Two trophies so far, but I haven't spent much time with it yet.

I can see it getting quite a bit of play around the house. I like the custom soundtrack option, too.
post #66 of 239
From the comments I gather it is only a demo.

Was doing a bit of research into Timeshock, seems it was the 2nd of 4 pinball games released by that company. All of which were available in one game on the Playstation 2 as well as the PC. Anyone tried any of the other boards? The Web, Big Race USA and Fantastic Journey?
post #67 of 239
Yep timeshock is the most advanced of the bunch. The next popular one is Big Race I believe I don't have the pack/set only timeshock but I've read and seen Big Race. Even Big Race is better than this zen pinball. I'm torn if I will bother, in the end I might but seriously there is no reason at all to drag me away from timeshock, that game literally is perfection. Even today I don't really believe it could be topped.
post #68 of 239
Judging by the demo, I will probably pass on this. Too bad.

The demo table is filled with too many similar-colored objects to be able to see much of what's happening. Also, none of the available camera angles ever seems to give me the perspective I actually want. The table seems to have a bunch of really cool stuff on it, but I can't see most of it.

Looking at the video preview of the other three tables, it looks like they suffer from the same issue. They each use too much of a single color, blurring the line between objects (bumpers, traps, tracks, and so on) and the flat play surface. Bummer.
post #69 of 239
What is the PS2 game called that has Timeshock on it?

The ball spin physics on Zen are DEFINITELY stronger than on FX and threw me off at first. I haven't played a real table recently enough to know if they are TOO strong. I found the voice on the demo table to be kinda annoying. Can you turn it off but keep the ball sounds and bleeps and bloops?

The camera angles are the same as on FX. I don't really like any of them but I usually use #3. None of them are as good as the options on Williams Hall of Fame for PSP. They really just need a camera angle that is more bird's eye view, not midget view, and that doesn't move so much. It should gradually move up and down the playfield, not jerk back and forth 1:1 with the ball.

A little time with the tables helps you learn where things are of course. I will still get this but I'm really looking forward to the Williams Hall of Fame collection for PS3. The PSP version is great (playing with a vertical view helps).
post #70 of 239
i tried the demo, liked it and bought the full game. i like it quite a bit. i can't compare it any other pinball games though cause i haven't played any.
post #71 of 239
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Originally Posted by Cygnus311 View Post

What is the PS2 game called that has Timeshock on it?

Ultimate Pro Pinball, available for PS2 or Xbox. (I have a feeling I'll be breaking out the Xbox later)

There's also Pro Pinball Trilogy for Dreamcast. And don't forget Pro Pinball - The Web for the original playstation!
post #72 of 239
Hmm well I found Timeshock for PSX for $4.99 with free shipping on ebay and ordered it.
post #73 of 239
I thought this demo was fun
post #74 of 239
Is this Timeshock that everyone is gushing over available in HD? If not, I'll stick with this. Good price point, good graphics, more tables coming via DLC, online play.
post #75 of 239
HD lol I dont care what quality Zen is , it doesn't compare to Timeshock in any way. It blows this out of the water, which is sad being Timeshock is 12 years old. Timesshock has max res of 1600x1200. And I'd still take it over this zen game even in 800x600 mode.
post #76 of 239
ok so how do we get trophies.

i am playing the car V12 table. and by accident i unlocked the booster thropy. but how do i get the fully upgraded trophy for example?

this game is also pretty addicting. i like it a lot. although i agree about the views. i wish there was a topdown view. where i could see the complete table.
post #77 of 239
So, I've downloaded, played, and deleted this demo three different times today. Just when I think I'm bored of it, I stop playing the demo and delete it. A few hours later, I feel the itch again. Guess that means I'm liking it despite myself.

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Originally Posted by Cysquatch View Post

Is this Timeshock that everyone is gushing over available in HD?

I only see one person here gushing over it. Not saying Timeshock's bad, but Zen is new, cheap, has online play, possible DLC down the road, and it's on PSN.
post #78 of 239
Yeah, Zen is still good. It would be great if they would give us a higher camera angle instead of a bunch of midget camera angles.
post #79 of 239
i thought view 5 was pretty good, but I'm not a pinball snob. fun game!
post #80 of 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by hdtv00 View Post

HD lol I dont care what quality Zen is , it doesn't compare to Timeshock in any way. It blows this out of the water, which is sad being Timeshock is 12 years old. Timesshock has max res of 1600x1200. And I'd still take it over this zen game even in 800x600 mode.


That's great. Why not go start a thread on Timeshock then? You obviously don't like Zen Pinball and have nothing left to offer the discussion on Zen Pinball.
post #81 of 239
You can turn off the ball blur/streaking in the settings.
post #82 of 239
I bought the game without trying the demo because I have balls.

HA!

I like it, it's a Hell of a lot of fun but I can't get used to any other view besides 1 because they all jerk too much. But 1 doesn't really let you see the top of the table.

I'm gonna check out Timeshock also.
post #83 of 239
before I buy this, is there an option to replay the table after you're game is over without getting kicked back out to the main menu? The demo kicks you all the way out, so you have to reload the table to play again.
post #84 of 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasnmb View Post

before I buy this, is there an option to replay the table after you're game is over without getting kicked back out to the main menu? The demo kicks you all the way out, so you have to reload the table to play again.


Yes, you can replay the table instantly by hitting 'x'. You have to hit 'o' to go back to the main menu to pick a new table.


What's the table in the demo? I just leapt right in to the full game without getting it?
post #85 of 239
Did anyone get a multi-ball yet? The view zooms out so that you can see the whole table top down. I just played the demo and the score tops out at 2,500,000, but you can still keep playing. I'm fine with view 1 btw.
post #86 of 239
yea multi ball is great - got one last night and ended up +9mil score , fun game , in game custom music - video enable MP , cant go wrong - it is alittle fast but after a game or so you adjust, tilt / slaming the machine is also nice , helped save myself a few times lol
post #87 of 239
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Originally Posted by aquasal View Post

yea multi ball is great - got one last night and ended up +9mil score , fun game , in game custom music - video enable MP , cant go wrong - it is alittle fast but after a game or so you adjust, tilt / slaming the machine is also nice , helped save myself a few times lol

so the online multiplayer, while using video chat is smooth?

can't you adjust the level of the table? wouldn't that make the ball slow down a bit if you made the table more level?
post #88 of 239
Here are my thoughts. I am and have always been a pinball freak, and I have some significant time at the tables.

It's not bad. The physics are mostly pretty spot-on. The most irritating thing to me is the lag between pressing the flipper button and the flipper actuating. This is EXTREMELY frustrating. This one thing keeps it from feeling enough like a real pinball table to possibly keep me from purchasing the game. I admit, I have not gone into the settings to see if there's a way to adjust this. And no, I don't have lag issues with other games.
post #89 of 239
^^^ I have the full game and that one criticism is SPOT ON about the slight flipper delay. Also, at times when I use the nudge feature to bump the machine, nothing registers. However, as far as the flippers go I noticed late that the options menu does have a sensitivity feature we can adjust. When I play again, I will change it to max sensitivity and see if that helps.

There is no visual lag during gameplay thankfully (unlike in the trailer video), and the graphics for the game style is a solid 8.5 from me. I love the custom music feature, and the soundFX are spot on. I like the deep rumble surround sound of V12, and the electrical sounds of Tesla is done well too.

The physics engine is decent, but not 100% perfect. Sometimes the ball slides in at an unexpected angle, but it isn't anything major. I also think the ball moves a bit too fast too often, but that may be just comparing it to my preference of speed in some of my favorite real pinball machines back when I used to play quite a bit.

The graphics themselves are nice.... a 7.5. VER sharp and clear detail at 60fps. There is a different dominant color for each of the tables, but only one design stood out as being a bit too monochromish (El Durado). The other tables, particularly V12, do a nice job in accenting other colors across the board.

There are six views I believe, but none are a true top down overhead like I prefer. I'll keep cycling through to find what I like - for now I've stuck with #3 or #4 even though it messes with my ability to cycle through lane light changes early enough (I may just go to #1).

The multiplayer and online leaderboard features are done very well from what I can tell. Besides multiple ways to get your name up in lights, the game uses a dot matrix text scroller to tell you who has had a recent awesome game or score. Another thing I like is that the menus and resetting the game has no loading times. It only loads when you bring up a different table from the one you are playing.

If the sensitivity settings can be tweaked to my liking, I'll give it an 8.5 score.
post #90 of 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by TornadoTJ View Post

Here are my thoughts. I am and have always been a pinball freak, and I have some significant time at the tables.

It's not bad. The physics are mostly pretty spot-on. The most irritating thing to me is the lag between pressing the flipper button and the flipper actuating. This is EXTREMELY frustrating. This one thing keeps it from feeling enough like a real pinball table to possibly keep me from purchasing the game. I admit, I have not gone into the settings to see if there's a way to adjust this. And no, I don't have lag issues with other games.

Wait... lag in a pinball game???

A little lag in most games can be acceptable, but pinball absolutely should have ZERO lag. What kind of TV do you have and how's it connected to the PS3?

I haven't tried this game out yet, but I was looking forward to it this weekend. Now I'm not so sure.
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