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post #121 of 328
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Originally Posted by Xombie37 View Post

Right on. Thanks for the clarification.

Would you, or anyone, happen to have proper settings for Xbox360 gaming?

No problem. I don't have the 650, I have the b630 and a PS3, so I won't be of much help. There ought to be some posted xbox calibrations somewhere in this thread, if not, I'm sure someone with an xbox can help you out there.
post #122 of 328
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Originally Posted by loekilo View Post

No problem. I don't have the 650, I have the b630 and a PS3, so I won't be of much help. There ought to be some posted xbox calibrations somewhere in this thread, if not, I'm sure someone with an xbox can help you out there.

Oh ok, right on. I'll check around on here and see what I can find for Xbox360 settings. Thanks for the help.
post #123 of 328
I just got my LN55B650, and like my previous ln4665f, for some reason Dynamic mode looks the best. The colors are bright, and the overall picture just looks a little better than playing with movie mode.

Am I weird, or is that what it is suppose to look like? I tried playing with recommended movie mode settings, and for some reason, everything looks too dull or dark.
post #124 of 328
I've spent the past few hours working on calibrating my B650 with an i1 pro (it's rented) and am finally happy with my results. I'm struggling on getting my gamma to 2.22, just can't figure it out. Everything else is pretty good, I've posted my .chc file below any tips are welcome.

The autodim was killing me below 30IRE, I had to use the APL 10% scale just so I had enough images on the screen to stop the damn autodimming. It's awesome for hiding clouds but a real pain when calibrating. A lot of people on the 750 thread are turning off the feature in the service menu but this is an easy work around for those who don't feel comfortable messing around in the service menu.

This pattern set is found on the trusty free AVSHD Calibration disk (thanks guys).

Doubt these will work for everyone but should be a good starting point.

 

LN55B650 9.3.09 - i1 HCFR.zip 4.5712890625k . file
post #125 of 328
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Originally Posted by Joel Clemons View Post

Are you sure these settings were under STANDARD mode? Some options don't seems to match. (White Bal has no AUTO setting and FILM MODE is selectable under STANDARD, for example)

oops I'll edit.. White Balance should have said default. (all 25)
Under Standard... Film mode is not selectable for me, but is selectable under Movie. Hdmi Black level wasn't selectable under either mode
post #126 of 328
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post #127 of 328
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Originally Posted by Cougar33 View Post

I've spent the past few hours working on calibrating my B650 with an i1 pro (it's rented) and am finally happy with my results. I'm struggling on getting my gamma to 2.22, just can't figure it out. Everything else is pretty good, I've posted my .chc file below any tips are welcome.

The autodim was killing me below 30IRE, I had to use the APL 10% scale just so I had enough images on the screen to stop the damn autodimming. It's awesome for hiding clouds but a real pain when calibrating. A lot of people on the 750 thread are turning off the feature in the service menu but this is an easy work around for those who don't feel comfortable messing around in the service menu.

This pattern set is found on the trusty free AVSHD Calibration disk (thanks guys).

Doubt these will work for everyone but should be a good starting point.

Movie mode doesn't have auto dimming, apparently.
post #128 of 328
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Originally Posted by jcd29 View Post

Movie mode doesn't have auto dimming, apparently.

That's interesting because under 30IRE you can see the backlight dim substantially in movie mode at a backlight of 5. It was even throwing off my gamma calculation for .65% of Y (100IRE) at 10IRE.

Not sure who is saying the TV doesn't have auto dim in movie mode, but I can assure you this set auto dims in movie mode. The only time I have seen the auto dim off is in game mode.
post #129 of 328
question to anyone who could help, i was using this ps3 settings and i noticed that it was for A650, is there any difference on the lcds?

here's the ps3 settings

Backlight = 0~10 (Your Option) I recommend Movie 0~3, Standard 5~10. (Calibrated with Backlight @ 0)
Contrast = 100★ (Don't Touch)
Brightness = 44 (Don't Touch)
Sharpness = 0 (Your Option) (I have Sharpness set @ 0)
Color = 51 (Don't Touch)
Tint = G50/R50 (Don't Touch)

DETAILED SETTINGS
Black Adjust = Off★ (You choices)
Dynamic Contrast = Off★ (Your choices)
*Note: For ppl who wanna use Dynamic Type please only use Black Adjust Low + Dynamic Contrast Low together only!
Gamma = +1 (Don't Touch)
Color Space = Custom (Don't Touch)
xvYCC = Off (Don't Touch, unless the material supports xvYCC.)

[Primary Colors - Important for Everything]
Red
R = 47
G = 0
B =0
Green
R = 24
G = 56
B = 0
Blue
R = 12
G = 0
B = 58
[Secondary Colors - Very Important for Accurate Skin Tones]
Yellow
R = 48
G = 55
B = 0
Cyan
R = 21
G = 51
B = 60
Magenta
R =47
G = 0
B = 49

Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhancement = On/Off (Whichever You Favor) (Personally have it Off for Movie/Videos and Off for Standard/Gaming) Calibrated with it Off
xvYCC = Off

WHITE BALANCE (Don't Touch)
R-Offset = 27
G-Offset = 25
B-Offset = 26
R-Gain = 22
G-Gain = 25
B-Gain = 29

PICTURE OPTIONS
Color Tone = Warm1 (Don't Touch) (Calibrated under Warm1, I use "warm1" for Movie/Video and "Cool1" for Standard/Gaming)
Digital N/R = Off (Personally have it set on Off) Calibrated with it Off
AutoMotionPlus/Movie Plus = High (Your Option) Calibrated with it Off
Blue Mode = Off

Energy Saving = Medium (Calibrated with it Off) Personally have Energy Saving on Medium with Backlight 3 for Movie and Backlight 5 for Standard for the Plasma-Look.
Entertainment modes = Off

+PS3 RGB Range (HDMI) -> Limited
+PS3 Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White (HDMI) -> On
+BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI) -> Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr
post #130 of 328
That will yield a very blue image, but if you like it, OK. There are dozens of setting posted here, try some of them, you might like it better.

I can't say I agree with many of these settings, but then it's not me that is watching. The colorspace settings will shift the primary and secondary colors is odd directions, I have no idea why anyone would want so much red in the green and blue, but what ever...
post #131 of 328
im just looking for the best settings for ps3, for gaming & movie. i noticed the color is a bit off so ima try DOUG's settings. i also just have basic cable & im wondering if i couls use the same settings for it...
post #132 of 328
For some reason, in MOVIE mode my HDMI Black Level is greyed out (at NORMAL) Using HDMI for all sources. Am I missing something?

Quote:
Originally Posted by douglashowitzer View Post

With an HDMI connection:


Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Low
Auto Motion Plus 120Hz: 10/5 for TV, Blu-ray and DVD//10/8 for gaming (I love the look of Auto Motion contrary to many posters.)
post #133 of 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

That will yield a very blue image, but if you like it, OK. There are dozens of setting posted here, try some of them, you might like it better.

I can't say I agree with many of these settings, but then it's not me that is watching. The colorspace settings will shift the primary and secondary colors is odd directions, I have no idea why anyone would want so much red in the green and blue, but what ever...

Actually, after calibrating my B650 numerous times using an Eye1 display LT these settings seem about right. The primaries and secondaries on these sets do need to be moved a bit to get them in line with the Rec. 709 targets.
post #134 of 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel Clemons View Post

For some reason, in MOVIE mode my HDMI Black Level is greyed out (at NORMAL) Using HDMI for all sources. Am I missing something?

HDMI black level will be greyed out if you are using RGB instead of YCrCb. Perhaps that is it?
post #135 of 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by fjordiales View Post

question to anyone who could help, i was using this ps3 settings and i noticed that it was for A650, is there any difference on the lcds?

here's the ps3 settings

Backlight = 0~10 (Your Option) I recommend Movie 0~3, Standard 5~10. (Calibrated with Backlight @ 0)
Contrast = 100★ (Don't Touch)
Brightness = 44 (Don't Touch)
Sharpness = 0 (Your Option) (I have Sharpness set @ 0)
Color = 51 (Don't Touch)
Tint = G50/R50 (Don't Touch)

DETAILED SETTINGS
Black Adjust = Off★ (You choices)
Dynamic Contrast = Off★ (Your choices)
*Note: For ppl who wanna use Dynamic Type please only use Black Adjust Low + Dynamic Contrast Low together only!
Gamma = +1 (Don't Touch)
Color Space = Custom (Don't Touch)
xvYCC = Off (Don't Touch, unless the material supports xvYCC.)

[Primary Colors - Important for Everything]
Red
R = 47
G = 0
B =0
Green
R = 24
G = 56
B = 0
Blue
R = 12
G = 0
B = 58
[Secondary Colors - Very Important for Accurate Skin Tones]
Yellow
R = 48
G = 55
B = 0
Cyan
R = 21
G = 51
B = 60
Magenta
R =47
G = 0
B = 49

Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhancement = On/Off (Whichever You Favor) (Personally have it Off for Movie/Videos and Off for Standard/Gaming) Calibrated with it Off
xvYCC = Off

WHITE BALANCE (Don't Touch)
R-Offset = 27
G-Offset = 25
B-Offset = 26
R-Gain = 22
G-Gain = 25
B-Gain = 29

PICTURE OPTIONS
Color Tone = Warm1 (Don't Touch) (Calibrated under Warm1, I use "warm1" for Movie/Video and "Cool1" for Standard/Gaming)
Digital N/R = Off (Personally have it set on Off) Calibrated with it Off
AutoMotionPlus/Movie Plus = High (Your Option) Calibrated with it Off
Blue Mode = Off

Energy Saving = Medium (Calibrated with it Off) Personally have Energy Saving on Medium with Backlight 3 for Movie and Backlight 5 for Standard for the Plasma-Look.
Entertainment modes = Off

+PS3 RGB Range (HDMI) -> Limited
+PS3 Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White (HDMI) -> On
+BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI) -> Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr

i tried these settings again but instead of using cool1 in standard, i used normal & it looks good in games. and since the b650 has a glare, i use AUTO in energy saver. i accidentally got this from a wrong forum but i read some posts that the ln46a650 & ln46b650 have the same settings.
post #136 of 328
Well to my eye the primary's are pretty good in Auto. I set my LN40B650 next to my pro calibrated PN50a650 and looked at some pure color slides from various sources and tweaked the B650 to match as closely as possible. I played with all the controls and the auto setting seemed to be the best option short of a pro calibration. This is just a secondary set in my bedroom, so accuracy is not crucial, but in my experience those settings are off a bit.


Someday I'll pick up some calibration equipment and play with it more.
post #137 of 328
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Originally Posted by r3alsp33dy0ne View Post

HDMI black level will be greyed out if you are using RGB instead of YCrCb. Perhaps that is it?

Player displays show YcrCb. Don't see any options that show one can set that one way or another.
post #138 of 328
I just updated via ethernet to 1012.Has anyone with calibration equipment had a chance to play around with any settings?That is two updates in a week.Hope its an improvement.Thanks Bill
post #139 of 328
I'm having a lot of trouble getting the right settings down for my PS3. Currently, I have it plugged in through HDMI3 and I enabled movie mode, then I edited the source name to PC. Does this reduce the lag? I heard something like the resolution gets downgraded if you do this. I didn't want to keep going back and forth between game mode and movie mode every time I play a game or watch a movie. What's the best way to keep a good picture and eliminate the lag?
post #140 of 328
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Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post

I'm having a lot of trouble getting the right settings down for my PS3. Currently, I have it plugged in through HDMI3 and I enabled movie mode, then I edited the source name to PC. Does this reduce the lag? I heard something like the resolution gets downgraded if you do this. I didn't want to keep going back and forth between game mode and movie mode every time I play a game or watch a movie. What's the best way to keep a good picture and eliminate the lag?


My settings above were done on the PS3. I just calibrated both game mode and movie mode so it doesn't matter which one I switch to I still have the same picture.

I tried the PC mode workaround and I didn't really notice a difference. Rock Band ended up calibrating to the exact same settings as movie mode. The only real difference I noticed was with game mode on.

By the way...this thread is a real bummer there's no activity.
post #141 of 328
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Originally Posted by Cougar33 View Post

My settings above were done on the PS3. I just calibrated both game mode and movie mode so it doesn't matter which one I switch to I still have the same picture.

I tried the PC mode workaround and I didn't really notice a difference. Rock Band ended up calibrating to the exact same settings as movie mode. The only real difference I noticed was with game mode on.

By the way...this thread is a real bummer there's no activity.

I'm not sure I follow. You use the same exact settings for movie and game mode? Do you switch the modes every time you play a game/watch a movie?
post #142 of 328
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Originally Posted by Villanman View Post

LN55B650
I have everything connected through my Denon 3808ci, so I only have one HDMI input to calibrate for all my sources. (Directv/Ps3/360)

After trying My own settings, Cnet, Tweaktv and settings posted on here, I've finally settled on the following:

Mode: Standard
Backlight: 8
Contrast:95
Brightness:43 (Set with DVE)

Sharpness: 20 (anything below gets too soft for me, anything higher too much noise on some objects)

Color:50 (set with DVE..er rather left unchanged)

Tint: 50/50 (same as above)

Advance settings

Black tone: Off
DC: Off
Gamma 0
Color Space: Auto (Tried douglashowitzer color tone and space settings, some things looked fine, some things had a green tint that shouldn't.. went back to auto)

White Balance: Default
Flesh tone 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options

Color Tone: Normal
Size: 16x9
DNR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Not Selectable
Film Mode: Not selectable
Blue Mode: Off (Of course)
Auto Motion Plus: Custom
Blur 10
Judder 0 (Started at 5 and it made strange halos around certain moving objects.. 0 removed all the weird artifacts)

Not sure if mine are right for anyone else's set up, but thanks to everyone that posted theirs, I was able to arrive to mine quicker.

EDIT: Had to come to a happy Medium, Loved my original settings on movies.. Hated the settings on a Football game.
because all my sources are coming in one input...I like this setting as an all purpose Directv.. Movies Football & PS3 Blu-ray.


Good job Villianman... I like your settings.
I've played with allot "like yourself" and never been quite happy with the skin tones.. "not as good as my LnA52650A".

But your settings have brought things into line....

thanks for sharing....
post #143 of 328
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Originally Posted by windstrings View Post

Good job Villianman... I like your settings.
I've played with allot "like yourself" and never been quite happy with the skin tones.. "not as good as my LnA52650A".

But your settings have brought things into line....

thanks for sharing....

Your welcome!
post #144 of 328
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Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post

I'm not sure I follow. You use the same exact settings for movie and game mode? Do you switch the modes every time you play a game/watch a movie?

My apologies I didn't explain. I calibrated both modes separately so when I switch to game mode it looks like movie mode even though movie mode is warm 2 and game mode is normal.

I would suggest that everyone in this thread find a photoshop or photo rental shop in their area and rent the i1. In Chicago (West Loop) there is a shop called ProGear and you can rent the i1 for $10 a day. It's worth your time, you can try every setting on this page and you will never get a correct picture on your set.
post #145 of 328
Alright...I took a good amount of time and went back to revise my previous settings. I found a bunch of errors in my previous readings that have been ironed out.

LN55B650
Calibrated with: PS3, AVSHD & i1

Mode: Movie (Warm 2)
Backlight = 5
Contrast = 99
Brightness = 48
Sharpness = 0
Color = 47
Tint = G50/R50 (Don't Touch)

DETAILED SETTINGS
Black Adjust = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Off
Gamma = 0
Color Space = Custom
xvYCC = Off

Red
R = 42
G = 0
B =0
Green
R = 12
G = 45
B = 0
Blue
R = 7
G = 2
B = 80

Yellow
R = 55
G = 50
B = 0

Cyan
R = 14
G = 50
B = 60

Magenta
R =46
G = 0
B = 50

Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhancement = off
xvYCC = Off

WHITE BALANCE
R-Offset = 27
G-Offset = 25
B-Offset = 20
R-Gain = 37
G-Gain = 25
B-Gain = 30


Mode: Game Mode (Normal)

Backlight = 5
Contrast = 95 (anything above this and you run out of red at high end IRE)
Brightness = 48
Sharpness = 0
Color = 52
Tint = G50/R50 (Don't Touch)

DETAILED SETTINGS
Black Adjust = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Off
Gamma = -1
Color Space = Custom
xvYCC = Off

Red
R = 56
G = 0
B =0
Green
R = 10
G = 50
B = 0
Blue
R = 8
G = 0
B = 65

Yellow
R = 53
G = 50
B = 0

Cyan
R = 17
G = 50
B = 56

Magenta
R =40
G = 0
B = 47

Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhancement = off
xvYCC = Off

WHITE BALANCE
R-Offset = 28
G-Offset = 25
B-Offset = 20
R-Gain = 48
G-Gain = 25
B-Gain = 1




These are by far the best looking settings I've been able to get to date. If anyone would like to try these out as a base please leave feedback.
post #146 of 328
Spent a little while last night calibrating my new LN40B650. I'm fairly happy with the results. It's not as accurate as my LN46A650; the gamma curve isn't as flat as I'd like and the green primary has too much blue in it and I can't see a way to change that. Contrast is pretty good at 1743:1.

Apparently I'm not allowed to post links, but you can download the full results here: http://thestaticvoid.com/dump/hcfr/ln40b650-calibrated.chc

PC connected via HDMI
AVSHD MP4
Eye One Display LT

LN40B650 AUO Panel
1011.1
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 4
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50
Gamma: -1
Color Space:
R: 57 0 0
G: 20 48 0
B: 12 0 72
Y: 48 50 0
C: 25 49 58
M: 63 0 70
White Balance: 25 25 23 35 25 28
Color Tone: Warm 2
HDMI Black Level: Normal (because I'm connected via PC which outputs a full RGB signal)







post #147 of 328
Cougar ... nice numbers. I had the turn the back light up to six because it looked just a bit too dark for my taste. Otherwise it looks great.
post #148 of 328
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Originally Posted by VegasFlyby View Post

Cougar ... nice numbers. I had the turn the back light up to six because it looked just a bit too dark for my taste. Otherwise it looks great.

Very cool, yeah I'm torn between 5 and 6 myself. 5 puts the luminance right in line but I like the pop of 6. It doesn't really change the reading too much it moves the ftl to 45 instead of 40. Glad they're working for you.
post #149 of 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cougar33 View Post

Alright...I took a good amount of time and went back to revise my previous settings. I found a bunch of errors in my previous readings that have been ironed out.

LN55B650
Calibrated with: PS3, AVS 709 & i1

Mode: Movie (Warm 2)
Backlight = 5
Contrast = 91 (anything above this and you run out of red at high end IRE)
Brightness = 48
Sharpness = 0
Color = 47
Tint = G50/R50 (Don't Touch)

DETAILED SETTINGS
Black Adjust = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Off
Gamma = 0
Color Space = Custom
xvYCC = Off

I'm using these settings as a base for my new LN40B610. I only got it a few hours ago so I'm going to leave fiddling with the color and white balances till later.

I have Auto Motion Plus 120Hz set at 10/5 for now. I just returned a 60Hz LG LCD, so I want to see how this 120Hz thing strikes me.
post #150 of 328
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Originally Posted by MrStaticVoid View Post

Spent a little while last night calibrating my new LN40B650. I'm fairly happy with the results. It's not as accurate as my LN46A650; the gamma curve isn't as flat as I'd like and the green primary has too much blue in it and I can't see a way to change that. Contrast is pretty good at 1743:1.

Apparently I'm not allowed to post links, but you can download the full results here: http://thestaticvoid.com/dump/hcfr/l...calibrated.chc

PC connected via HDMI
AVSHD MP4
Eye One Display LT

LN40B650 AUO Panel
1011.1
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 4
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50
Gamma: -1
Color Space:
R: 57 0 0
G: 20 48 0
B: 12 0 72
Y: 48 50 0
C: 25 49 58
M: 63 0 70
White Balance: 25 25 23 35 25 28
Color Tone: Warm 2
HDMI Black Level: Normal (because I'm connected via PC which outputs a full RGB signal)

You'd get better black levels if you put your gamma back to 0 and turned down your brightness instead.
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