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Raleigh NC- insignia box and antenna question

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I'm sorry to even post and take up your time, but I've spent the past couple of hours searching on here and still have some questions.

I'm in Raleigh, near Wake Forest Rd/ Whitaker, bought the Apex converter boxes @ Best Buy, then exchanged them for the Insignia brand.

I got more channels with the Apex but they were all bad quality, with the Insignia at least ABC, CBS, NBC are very clear, but no PBS or other stations. The Radioshack guy told me I needed an amplified antenna. The Best Buy guy said that unless I have more than 20 feet of cable from the tv to antenna, then I don't need an amplified one. Right now I have a Philips SDV2210/27 antenna, my max to spend on an antenna is about $35 but would like to keep this as cheap as possible.

Would it make a difference if I moved my tv and antenna to an exterior wall by the window?

Also I was told that I need to sit tight until June 12, because everything will be ok then and I'll recieve all the channels in the whole world...well my 8 yr old gave that advice LOL!

Thanks in advance
post #2 of 12
In general, having the antenna outside is preferable. Try getting some cable to be able to relocate your antenna to a window that faces the direction of the transmitting locations.

Most areas will make the final change to all digital transmissions starting June 12th. Reception capability may change for you then.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
we're in townhouse style apartments, so we can't install anything on the building. I'm going to move everything near the exterior wall/window and see if it helps. I found an aplified antenna from radioshack on CL so I might just try it to see if it works.

Thanks!
post #4 of 12
Do you own or rent? If you own, you can put an antenna outside. The Federal Government (FCC) has ruled that homeowners associations can not forbid it.
post #5 of 12
How far away are the stations you're interested in? Enter your complete address to find out:
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=29

Also check the local reception thread for your town:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=453241

And the indoor antenna roundup:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...037779&page=76
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by TraceyWilson View Post

I'm sorry to even post and take up your time, but I've spent the past couple of hours searching on here and still have some questions.

I'm in Raleigh, near Wake Forest Rd/ Whitaker, bought the Apex converter boxes @ Best Buy, then exchanged them for the Insignia brand.

I got more channels with the Apex but they were all bad quality, with the Insignia at least ABC, CBS, NBC are very clear, but no PBS or other stations. The Radioshack guy told me I needed an amplified antenna. The Best Buy guy said that unless I have more than 20 feet of cable from the tv to antenna, then I don't need an amplified one. Right now I have a Philips SDV2210/27 antenna, my max to spend on an antenna is about $35 but would like to keep this as cheap as possible.

Would it make a difference if I moved my tv and antenna to an exterior wall by the window?

Also I was told that I need to sit tight until June 12, because everything will be ok then and I'll recieve all the channels in the whole world...well my 8 yr old gave that advice LOL!

Thanks in advance

Most of the time an amplifier is only needed when there is a long cable between the antenna and TV.
The best location for an antenna is outside on the roof.
The next best location is in the attic.
If not, then indoors by a window.

If the station's transmitting tower is close to you your current setup should suffice.
Of course the terrain between you and the tower needs to be considered.

Since you are in Raleigh I would think the towers would be close to you.
You can go to the "TV Fool" website and get a map showing the locations of the transmitting towers.
You will see the direction of each tower, and a list of the TV station's distance from you.
They also can show you what the terrain is like from the tower to you.
The best information is provided when you enter your actual street address.
Here is a link for the TV Fool website

http://tvfool.com/

As of yesterday (May 1) the PBS stations where I live in Dayton, OH changed their frequencies to go all digital.
This may apply to the PBS stations in your area.
So you may want to have your converter box do a rescan of channels and see if it will add any new channels.

Although it probably won't help the signal strength, the best picture quality & audio is provided when you use a composite cable from your converter box to your TV instead of an RF cable.
A composite Cable has Red, White and Yellow connectors on each end of the cable.

Lastly, the AVS Forum here has a thread dedicated for people who live in the Raleigh, NC area.
So you may want to also post your question there and view those messages.
Here is the link to the AVS Forum's Raleigh, NC thread

Raleigh, NC
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=147473


The AVS Forum provides a dedicated thread for most major cities in the USA, if you want to also see the entire list of cities click on the following link

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=45

Raleigh, NC will be on the bottom of page 2.

If you want to, let us know of your progress.
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
I moved the tv and everything to the outside wall, put the antenna in the window, and picked up 5 more channels. Then about an hour later some of the channels were gone again...its hit and miss. I tried the same thing in the upstairs back bedroom and have extra channels for about 5 mins.

I'm going to try the amplified antenna I found on CL for $10, maybe put it in the front upstairs bedroom and run extra cable to the back bedroom to see if that helps. I'll let you all know how it goes thanks for all the help!
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well the CL $10 radioshack amplified antenna didn't do so well in the back upstairs bedroom, but when I put it downstairs we finally recieved the local PBS stations, 22 so far in all! So the kids are very pleased. I got an insignia converter box for the upstairs front room, with normal philips antenna we got 22 channels right from the start.

So hopefully I'll find more deals on amplified antennas on CL, maybe find a way to boost the channels in the back bedroom. I came close to buying the RCA amplified flat antenna, it was on sale at wally world... but wanted to do more research first.

Thanks all! Have a blessed night!
post #9 of 12
Good job, Tracy !!
I get all the channels in my area, but that only adds up to 14 channels.
You must live in a good area to get 22 channels, especially with an indoor antenna.
No wonder the kids are very pleased !!

Thanks for letting us know how well you did, and sharing that info on the antennas
you are trying out.
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by TraceyWilson View Post

Well the CL $10 radioshack amplified antenna didn't do so well in the back upstairs bedroom, but when I put it downstairs we finally recieved the local PBS stations, 22 so far in all! So the kids are very pleased. I got an insignia converter box for the upstairs front room, with normal philips antenna we got 22 channels right from the start.

So hopefully I'll find more deals on amplified antennas on CL, maybe find a way to boost the channels in the back bedroom. I came close to buying the RCA amplified flat antenna, it was on sale at wally world... but wanted to do more research first.

Thanks all! Have a blessed night!

Take advantage of the Insignia's signal level indicator. (Press signal on the remote.) For really solid reception, you want the bar to remain 2/3 of the way to full, if possible. Otherwise, multipath interference or signal propagation changes may drop the signals too low at times.

With the current antenna in it's best spot, check the signal as you move the antenna slowly back and forth looking for a place where the signal quality is shown as highest. Note that place, then try it for other stations. The best spot may not be the same for all stations, but you may find a location that is pretty good for most or all of your stations.

If you do get an amplified antenna, be sure to check before and after on the signal meter. Don't be surprised if it is lower with the amplified antenna. Sometimes DTV problems are more about the receiver having difficulties sorting out a single version of the data stream, when it is arriving along multiple paths (with the data arriving at slightly different times). Adding a noisy amplifier circuit can just make matters worse.

Depending on your local terrain, raising the antenna up can help. (May be why it worked better upstairs.)

Some folks on AVSforum use outdoor UHF antennas indoors. Examples are
this one and that one. These may be a better choice than those questionable amplified indoor antennas at Walmart, and elsewhere.
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by CasualOTAer View Post

...Some folks on AVSforum use outdoor UHF antennas indoors...

TraceyWilson will have at least one VHF digital, post-transition.
post #12 of 12
Tracey - yes - use the Raleigh thread -

the advice you've gotten here is good.

For your purposes - most of our major stations are in the Raleigh antenna farm, located a mile or so east of the eastern edge of Garner. WUNC is over in Chapel Hill. PLAN on doing rescans on your digital converter on June 12 and 13.

Check on your TV that you can CURRENTLY get analog channel 11 - if that comes in OK, you'll be OK .
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