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post #31 of 5062
I also got in the Sears triple sale last Monday. Mine will be here tomorrow.
I really need a good BD player to hold me over until I can get my hands on the new OPPO 83. I bought this set on blind faith because of the reviews and countless postings. If this set turns out to be a dud I am coming after all of you with my collectors set of every Godzilla movie ever made and make you watch them. And you can't laugh while you do.
post #32 of 5062
Hi All,

I'm a current owner of the sammy PN50A650 who's looking to switch to the B650 model due to my current set's horizontal banding/ bleeding issues. I wanted to check and see if anyone has seen any of these issues on your sets at this time. These bleeds are visible from the all white screen menu and to a lesser extent during normal viewing as well. Minor pink hues are another problem but only when using up my dell laptop via hdmi. By all accounts, samsung has fixed most of these issues from last year and am looking forward to a perfect set after upgrading.

Here is a couple of useful links for all you newbies who've just gotten your new sets

http://samsungplasmatvfaq.com/index....mage_retention Has tons of great information on break in, burn in and IR issues

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10425704 Talks about recommended settings you should be using (PC, Component and HDMI) while breaking in your set

http://www.eaprogramming.com/ is where you can download your break in images. Note that downloading it into a usb thumbdrive is the easiest, quickest and cheapest (free) way that i have found for this method.

One other important fact I would also like to share is the importance of recording/ keeping tabs of your hours while breaking in your sets. This way you don't have to go into the service menu to look it up and end up resetting everything back to factory default. This by no means is a bad thing- but still it'll save you a ton of time from inputting all of your settings all over again.

So go out there, grab a beer, relax and enjoy your new sets. Those first 250 hours will go by quickly before you know it. I look forward to hearing how awsome all those new B models are performing
post #33 of 5062
can you see if their is a widget for fantasy football or football stats?
post #34 of 5062
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Originally Posted by jeffbeck View Post

I also got in the Sears triple sale last Monday. Mine will be here tomorrow.
I really need a good BD player to hold me over until I can get my hands on the new OPPO 83. I bought this set on blind faith because of the reviews and countless postings. If this set turns out to be a dud I am coming after all of you with my collectors set of every Godzilla movie ever made and make you watch them. And you can't laugh while you do.

Where are the reviews you are posting about? Google came up with nothing.

BD players?

Panny has 2 excellent models.
Sony does too...of course the PS3 is still considered one of the best.
I had no issues with my Samsung 1500....real cheap.
I have a friend that is beta testing the Oppo it's the one to get bar none.
post #35 of 5062
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Originally Posted by Pavlis42 View Post

any info about power consumption? thx

With energy saver off (which is where I'm keeping it for now) I got an average of 297 watts. Energy saver on low, 179 watts, medium, 154 watts, high, 123 watts. My Toshiba 52" DLP I am replacing drew about 210 watts on average.
post #36 of 5062
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Originally Posted by NOAMattD View Post

I have 2 questions:

1) How is the heat output? Does the TV get hot? Does it give off a lot of heat?


I took some temperature measurements with an infared thermometer. After having it on about an hour I got about 95 degrees farenheit off the glass, about 105 degrees along the top edge vent holes.
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post #38 of 5062
hi there thanks alot for the pictures hope you are enjoying your tv and that your happy with your purchase.
post #39 of 5062
@ whjeffs

Can you say something about the black level in a dark room?
post #40 of 5062
How are reflections on this unit? compared to say LG50PS60, with there 1 sheet of glass designs
post #41 of 5062
is the 58b650 3,000,000 to 1? or 2,000,000 to 1?
post #42 of 5062
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Originally Posted by la9ers View Post

is the 58b650 3,000,000 to 1? or 2,000,000 to 1?

3,000,000,000:1

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Originally Posted by binarybin View Post

How are reflections on this unit? compared to say LG50PS60, with there 1 sheet of glass designs

Not sure if I've seen that particular LG model but I know when comparing TVs in store ALL of the LG plasmas I saw had horrible glare. Even the cheapest Samsungs were better in this regard. Look at one of the pics I posted above, it's a closeup of the side showing a reflection in the bezel & the same reflection on the screen to show how much the Ultra Filterbright cuts down the glare.

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Originally Posted by Warrior668 View Post

@ whjeffs

Can you say something about the black level in a dark room?

I'm very happy with it. Although there have been way too many black level arguments in the main 2009 Samsung Plasma thread I will not get into comparisons with other units as I think it's all been said already.
post #43 of 5062
I have comcast cable, and when I turn the TV on the info panle in the upper left of tv, it gives the time and 1920x1080i @60Hz? is that whats coming into the tv? cause I thought the our B series was 100hz motion and 600hz subfield?
post #44 of 5062
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Originally Posted by whjeffs View Post

With energy saver off (which is where I'm keeping it for now) I got an average of 297 watts. Energy saver on low, 179 watts, medium, 154 watts, high, 123 watts. My Toshiba 52" DLP I am replacing drew about 210 watts on average.

Don't know how long you've had yours on but I read some tips from Samsung that said the screen gets cooler after breakin (100 hours). Look at the last couple pages of the 2009 Samsung thread for the links.
post #45 of 5062
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Originally Posted by Warrior668 View Post

@ whjeffs

Can you say something about the black level in a dark room?

Never watch it in a dark room.
post #46 of 5062
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Originally Posted by binarybin View Post

How are reflections on this unit? compared to say LG50PS60, with there 1 sheet of glass designs

I can see my table lamps reflect in it if I focus on it. When I don't it doesn't bother the experience at all.
post #47 of 5062
I have looked around town here in Peterborough and can't find a DVE disc to set up my 58b650 .
In the sam.2009 thread a fella mentioned setting his up with just sutch a disc .
SOO how about it whjeffs care to share. Settings that is Please!!Please!!
post #48 of 5062
Can anybody with the PN58B650 display test input lag, with game mode on and also off.. if you don't know how, this explains it pretty well.

http://hdtvlag.googlepages.com/ourtest

basically, hook up a source that you can output to the tv and a monitor at the same time and run a stop clock, then take a photo, the difference in time would be the lag the tv is causing. Would be great to know how this tv preforms in this.

Also any gamers in here? notice any phosphor lag?

Or maybe hit up the Guitar Hero Calibration screen and what ms are you getting?

also here is a app i found for testing for lag also
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.ph...&id=1229335064
post #49 of 5062
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Originally Posted by whjeffs View Post










Is it just me, or do I see green vertical banding on the scrolling bars...?

And, is the screen at an angle? On the profile shot it looks like it's leaning back.
post #50 of 5062
Ouch, don't quote all those pictures :P but looking at it again, you are right, i see green, probably phosphor lag?, didn't notice it when i just scanned through the pictures last time.
post #51 of 5062
taking mine back to Sears tonight
it buzzes very loud and I can't get the pink out of the picture
I seriously hope its just a defective set......crossing my fingers that the next one is perfect because I dread lugging this thing back and forth
post #52 of 5062
My new replacement 58B650 will be here in 2 weeks. Whoooo Hooooo!!!!!!
post #53 of 5062
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Originally Posted by nolanski View Post

My new replacement 58B650 will be here in 2 weeks. Whoooo Hooooo!!!!!!


why are you getting it replaced?
post #54 of 5062
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Originally Posted by binarybin View Post

why are you getting it replaced?

Let me clarify....my replacement for my 58A650 that had pink hue issues that Samsung is replacing with a 58B650. Sorry for the confusion!!!
post #55 of 5062
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Originally Posted by Rhythmic View Post

Is it just me, or do I see green vertical banding on the scrolling bars...?

And, is the screen at an angle? On the profile shot it looks like it's leaning back.

There is nothing wrong with that picture.
post #56 of 5062
is there much diffrence between 2,000,000:1 to 3,000,000:1 ? I can't decide weather to get the 58b560 ro 58b650. Can any one help me with this?
post #57 of 5062
something i've been asking about as well, basically the ratio is just take a image of something, and how white is white and how black is black in the image. The smaller the ratio would mean say although white is pure white, the black suffer and are grey, or the other way around, the blacks are pure black, but now the whites don't look so white. but i don't know if at these high numbers that it really matters, the things are bright. any body notice this difference in contrast ratio 1m vs 2m vs 3m to 1 contrast ratio?
post #58 of 5062
After 3 days with my new TV, I have a dead pixel in the center of the screen. This is really upsetting. Do these ever fix themselves or should I exchange it before the 30 days are up?
post #59 of 5062
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Originally Posted by nolanski View Post

There is nothing wrong with that picture.

Are you serious? Nobody can see those green vertical bands? I noticed it right away...!?!?

This is a little concerning b/c the B650 I saw in BB had pink vertical bands while on the scrolling bars. People might want to check this on their new B650's
post #60 of 5062
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Originally Posted by vid_kid View Post

I'm doing a break in right now, there is some heat coming off the screen. This is my first plasma so I can't say if it's excessive or not, doesn't seem to be drastic though.

the tv will generate much less heat after some time and espesially after you have been calibrating it..

Same goes for the buzzing sound you hear
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