Originally Posted by Pecker
This is not the place to discount improvements over the DVD and pretend they don't exist. You have to do better than that.
Actually, forget that.
I think what I mean is, each person should look at the disc or screencaps , and check out their bank balance, and decide for themselves if the improvement is worth it or not.
Of all the people on this forum, you have made Fist Pumping for the studios a full time job. You are here all day, every day, never stopping and one wonders why.
In fact, you are now powting more than any other member, by far.
Most of us here do not want to bury ourselves in the sands of a pretend reality where massive amounts of DVNR are needed, but we also do not want to argue with people who refuse to see reality, who continue to say that noise reducing grain until it is gone is perfectly OK because the director is dead and cannot be here and because "it's better than the DVD."
In fact, many have left this forum in frustration because they simply cannot take it anymore. I am close to that because AVS, once THE place to be for truth, is turning into a Joe Six Pack land of studio apologists who strive for the lowest possible quality. Privately, numerous members here are at the end of their rope and are perfectly justified in that.
This film, along with the TREK films, has been given the shaft and looks nothing like the original film elements. It no longer looks like any
film would look because it has been so massively scrubbed of grain and more importantly, detail.
There is nothing you can say or do to change that. These Xylon screen captures only add in your face proof
to what I and others have seen with our own eyes. We saw the film in a theater and now we are NOT seeing that film on BD. Instead, we have a pale pretendor that looks like a low resolution video game.
It's criminal. The evidence is overwheleming, but in an era where someone clearly saying or doing something on video is explained or "spun" away by partison cheerleaders, what else can one expect...?
The moon is made of cheese.