Foxy, your search for the highest possible standards is commendable, and to be applauded.
I venture to suggest that neither of you has ‘the wrong priorities’, just different ones, each tailored to suit his own wants, needs and tastes.
As a cinephile, Frayling's priority is to get access to the best looking/sounding version of the film possible, then to enjoy it as much as possible.
An Audio/Videophile yours is to not settle for anything less than the best, and that your enjoyment of the film will be damaged if you're not getting this.
As I say, neither is wrong or right, but each person's satisfaction will reveal their priorities. As I say, it'd the difference between a film fan first and foremost, or an AV fan first and foremost.
For me, I share Sir Chris's priorities, and don't feel I should be subject to ridicule for that.
Wrong and i disagree strongly.
I am not an "audio/videophile" as you put it. I have always first and foremost been a huge film fan from my youngest days onward.
To suggest i am some sort of techno geek is frankly absurd and annoying and also once again kinda insulting and i can read between the lines with your comments.
Frayling wants the best possible version. May i suggest he purchase the Italian edition as the MGM clearly isn't the best. May i also suggest a true cinephile and true film fan would move heaven and earth to purchase the best edition of a film even if it has an Italian language track. Buy it and then do your utmost to purchase a compatible english language edition and use two players ( even if one is a VHS deck ) to play the movie and get the sound in sync or use the computer to make your own version.
You see a true movie fan doesn't just sit back and say awwww shucks MGM tried their best and the Mondo release has Italian audio so i'm screwed.....Nah us true movie fans want to watch the best possible edition of a movie and will not settle for less especially when we know a studio has frankly been incompetent with the transfer and applied too much processing.
So nah Mr Pecker i'm a cinephile and a true film fan and i appreciate that with Blu Ray we have the ability to get films which look like film in our homes and i kindly suggest you and Mr Frayling are perhaps too accepting of mediocre and too forgiving and perhaps make too many excuses just to justify the purchase.
Be a true film fan and don't settle for better than the DVD if better than the DVD is clearly processed and ugly. Don't be afraid to admit you got it wrong as god knows i have got it wrong before and was fast to admit it in several threads. Most of all don't presume you are a film fan just because you accept any old transfer they throw your way. All that tells me is you are willing to lower your standards and compromise. I don't generally compromise too much but i make no apologies for who i am.
So let me say again i'm a film fan. Nope i don't always need the absolute best possible transfer ( although thats appreciated ) and i don't always need them to go back and make a new master or spend more money on one but i do appreciate they don't apply processing or edge enhancement or degraining to prints which shouldn't have it done to them and it's the additional processing which usually has me and a few others coming onto these boards and expressing opinions. Just give me a high standard with little processing. I'll take a print with specks on it and dirt as long as it's got the film look to it. See Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves thread for my posts there and it'll explain more.
I just don't think you get me and i don't think you ever will. I'm a film fan and i want the film look. I don't want the video look on Blu Ray.
Leone's family supplied the negatives. Mondo did restoration work on the release which by all accounts is as valid as MGM's restoration work. Mondo's release left the grain structure intact which is why it actually has some additional detail while MGM's removed too much of it which is why it has less detail. Which one is the best release. Which one does Mr Frayling and Pecker endorse. Oh yah will someone please get Stevie Wonder to review the MGM version as i'm sure he will also endorse it as just a fine looking disc.
So nah i am a film fan and always will be but i appreciate and want quality in anything i watch on Blu Ray because i appreciate the fact Blu Ray can deliver that quality and the only stumbling block to that quality is cheap assed studio's or employee's who love their processing tools a little bit too much.