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post #481 of 521
I'm getting the italian release of this movie, My Name is Nobody and A Fistful of Dollars from Italy probably on monday. I'm so excited!
post #482 of 521
I saw this last week and expected terrible PQ but was surprised. It is not great or even very good by any means but the hyperbole about the PQ being terrible is greatly overstated.
post #483 of 521



post #484 of 521
It looks like an updonverted dvd.Think bluray summer 2006.
post #485 of 521
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

It looks like an updonverted dvd.Think bluray summer 2006.

If that was available for sale in the US I believe many people would snap it up in delight.
post #486 of 521
I was referring to Rach's post about the MGM release.
post #487 of 521
Thinking about doing an alternative track, using the original mono track from the old MGM dvd, interspliced with the redubbed scenes from the restored version; I simply hate that fake 5.1 track with new sound effects (gunshots, etc).
post #488 of 521
The MGM PQ I can tolerate because it's not overwhelmingly offensive, but yeah, the audio tracks suck balls. If only there was a bright spark at MGM who could've done what you're proposing in the first place! There's no reason why they couldn't have taken the US theatrical mono track and spliced in the downmixed sound from the new scenes.

Heck, I could almost forgive that horrid 'mono' track if the 5.1 mix actually had something to recommend it, like stereo music, but it sounds utterly detached and lifeless. It's incredible that the restored mono track (in lossy DD) on the Italian BD of Fistful sounds richer and more robust than the lossless 5.1 mix for Good, Bad & The Ugly.
post #489 of 521
Rigby's script is nice, but the soundout plug-in and function call seem unnecessary. I replaced "Soundout()" with "return last" (since I couldn't find a 64-bit version of soundout to run on 64-bit avisynth) and it worked fine for me.
post #490 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle_JP View Post

Rigby's script is nice, but the soundout plug-in and function call seem unnecessary. I replaced "Soundout()" with "return last" (since I couldn't find a 64-bit version of soundout to run on 64-bit avisynth) and it worked fine for me.

The reason I used Soundout was to make it easier for folks who aren't familiar with a video editor like Virtualdub. Of course your method works too. But then you can drop the "return last" as well.
post #491 of 521
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Originally Posted by krugj View Post

There's a big problem with this new mondo transfer....I'm assuming because this was from the original negative (and not the mgm interpositive based version) that each cut is glued together or spliced together and that over time this has warped the first two frames of the incoming shot and the last two frames of the outgoing shot, because EVERY CUT JUMPS....mostly each cut slightly shifts or warps, but literally there are cuts where the frame jumps a 3rd up the screen - and you can see the top of the frame at the bottom of the screen on the cut! (as if the film is out of it's register as it's being scanned) Case in point, look at the 2nd or 3rd cut in the scene where tuco is shot of his horse (and then after Blondie/Eastwood comes in for the first time). Tuco reaches for his gun, and the last 2 frames jump a 3rd up the screen, his boot is now on the bottom of the screen divided by a black line (a film frame line) - it would be great if someone who can capture br could post those frames up....

I wish I could see a small section of this release to judge for myself how badly it would bother me (or not).
post #492 of 521
Hello everyone. I'm very sorry to bump such an old thread, but I don't know where else to turn...

I got a BD burner yesterday, and I have the two GBU Bds, so I was planning on following the script found here, but am getting an error when trying to open the script in Virtualdub.
It says
Code:
Avisynth open failure:
Script error: `\' can only appear at the beginning or end of a line
(D:GBU work files\gbudub.avs, line 20, column 65)

I am pretty much a complete beginner in regards to scripting and avisynth, so I'm blank as to what is wrong. I copypastaed the script in Rigby Reardon's post (word for word), and the only thing I changed was the directory of my audio file.

If anyone can help me out, then it is hugely appreciated.
Edited by Primus motor - 7/14/12 at 6:00am
post #493 of 521
Did you enclose your entire file path and name in quotes? That's usually necessary when the file name or path have spaces (as yours seems to).

Also, not sure why Rigby's example has double backslashes in the filepath. My avisynth scripts work fine without them, and the double backslash is usually only for indicating that two lines are in fact part of the same line by putting it at the end.

So, try a file path and name with single backslashes but enclosed in double quotes.
post #494 of 521
Appreciate your reply.

The script line with my file name is this - au0 = NicLPCMSource("d:\GBUworkfiles\GBUaudio.wav", 48000, -24, 6).
I thought that the spaces may have been the problem, so I changed the file name and directory name (removed the spaces). I also changed this in the script, of course. I tried having single backslashes like you said, but I get the same error message. I have looked at the script over and over, and I can't see any disallowed symbols (`\' and similar) that appears anywhere else than at the beginning or end of each line, so I'm stumped (but I could be reading it wrong, I'm not exactly confident in scripting). I'm using Virtualdubmod, but I get the same error in MPC. MPC is updated (updated my codecs couple of days ago), I'm using the apps recommended in Rigby's post on Win7 x64. If there's anything else I should try, then I definitely will, as I'm dying to see the Italian disc with English audio.

EDIT: I forgot to say that I also tried uninstalling and reinstalling avisynth, but did not solve the problem.

EDIT: I tried removing the quotes around the filepath/name (just to figure out which line is Line 20, didn't know if blank lines counted in the line count), and got the same error message, only now it was line 18 that was wrong, so Line 20 (which I'm having problems with) is -
bl0 = BlankClip(length=256135, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, \\
channels=6, audio_rate=48000, sample_type="24bit").

I have looked at this line for quite a while, but can not seem to see the problem?
Edited by Primus motor - 7/14/12 at 11:14am
post #495 of 521
Primus, the file name needs to be enclosed in quotes. Both single and double backlashes will work in this case. I suspect you have "lost" a character somewhere. Please copy/paste the original script again and only replace the file name inside the quotes with your own. If you still get the error, post your complete script (inside a CODE section) here so we can take a look.
post #496 of 521
Well, I made a new avs file, pasted your script into it, and replaced only the file name and directory (left the double backslashes and everything else), but still get the same error that something is wrong on Line 20 Column 65..... I have triple checked my file name and directory (which has changed since last night, since I had to do some clean-up). Really appreciate you looking into this.
Code:

/*
 * GBUDub.avs
 *
 * This script generates a synced English dub for the
 * Italian Blu-ray release of "The Good, the Bad, and
 * the Ugly" out of the audio track of the MGM Blu-ray.
 *
 * Input file:
 *   PCM (big endian) format, 48kHz/24 bit, 6 channels
 *   runtime 02:58:41
 *
 * The runtime of the output file should be 02:54:23.
 *
 * "Rigby Reardon" @ AVSForum, 2009-10-18 
 */

# Replace with your own filename here
au0 = NicLPCMSource("d:\\GBUworkfiles\\GBUaudioMGM\\GBUaudioMGM.wav", 48000, -24, 6)

bl0 = BlankClip(length=256135, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, \\
                channels=6, audio_rate=48000, sample_type="24bit")

av0 = AudioDub(bl0, au0)

Trim(bl0,       0       ,       413     ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       312     ,       4237    ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       4254    ,       18251   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       18253   ,       27442   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       27441   ,       35469   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       35469   ,       35796   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       35796   ,       40375   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       40378   ,       55111   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       59854   ,       66116   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       66109   ,       75416   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       75418   ,       76166   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       76168   ,       91535   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       91534   ,       94950   ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       94950   ,       118982  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       118974  ,       124891  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       124891  ,       141569  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       141569  ,       147641  ) ++ \\
Dissolve( \\
  Trim(av0,     149245  ,       149536  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     147643  ,       148134  ), 10 \\
) ++ \\
Dissolve( \\
  Trim(av0,     148132  ,       148324  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     148321  ,       149145  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     150217  ,       150497  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     150490  ,       150710  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     150705  ,       150791  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     150787  ,       151022  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     149522  ,       149805  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     151029  ,       151406  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     151396  ,       151510  ), 2 \\
) ++ \\
Dissolve( \\
  Trim(av0,     151510  ,       152091  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     149792  ,       150237  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     152075  ,       152492  ), 20 \\
) ++ \\
Dissolve( \\
  Trim(av0,     152583  ,       152921  ), \\
  Trim(av0,     152984  ,       154010  ), 2 \\
) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       154010  ,       163697  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       163699  ,       168009  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       168009  ,       168723  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       168723  ,       175351  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       175351  ,       176293  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       176284  ,       211334  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       211337  ,       223241  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       223240  ,       224481  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       224480  ,       234857  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       234859  ,       244119  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       244116  ,       244155  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       244155  ,       244722  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       244724  ,       245819  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       245821  ,       249585  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       249974  ,       253861  ) ++ \\
Trim(av0,       253890  ,       256134  ).FadeOut0(240)

SoundOut()

# End of script
post #497 of 521
@Primus: There we have the problem: For some reason, *all* single backslashes had been replaced with double backslashes in the script in my original posting! This screws up the end-of-line escapes. I guess this must have happened when this site was converted to the new forum software some weeks ago.

Good that you brought this to our attention! I have removed the superfluous backslashes in my original post. Try again with this version.

Also, I would recommend to extract the audio to .pcm format, not .wav. Regular WAV cannot handle file sizes >4GB.
post #498 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rigby Reardon View Post

@Primus: There we have the problem: For some reason, *all* single backslashes had been replaced with double backslashes in the script in my original posting! This screws up the end-of-line escapes. I guess this must have happened when this site was converted to the new forum software some weeks ago.
Good that you brought this to our attention! I have removed the superfluous backslashes in my original post. Try again with this version.
Also, I would recommend to extract the audio to .pcm format, not .wav. Regular WAV cannot handle file sizes >4GB.

AHA! wink.gif Well, it's good that I can be of some use, haha. I will try your updated script and report back. One question though - Can I use the 2channel track on the MGM BD with your script instead of the 6channel track? I already have that file here (which is around 2.9 GB), which saves me time, and I don't have a sound system (only my TV), so it really does not matter much if it's lossless or not.

EDIT: Well, I just tried running the script (which now works fine!) with the 2 channel track from the MGM BD for testing purposes, but the resulting file is nothing but loud white noise (like a wall of noise, really loud) for some strange reason when playing it with either VLC or MPC.. I tried saving as FLAC and as .wav, but the result is the same. I will try the 6 channel track and report back.
Edited by Primus motor - 7/15/12 at 10:11am
post #499 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Primus motor View Post

AHA! wink.gif Well, it's good that I can be of some use, haha. I will try your updated script and report back. One question though - Can I use the 2channel track on the MGM BD with your script instead of the 6channel track? I already have that file here (which is around 2.9 GB), which saves me time, and I don't have a sound system (only my TV), so it really does not matter much if it's lossless or not.
Yes, a stereo track should work. You just need to change the number of channels in the NicLPCMSource call from 6 to 2.
post #500 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Primus motor View Post

EDIT: Well, I just tried running the script (which now works fine!) with the 2 channel track from the MGM BD for testing purposes, but the resulting file is nothing but loud white noise (like a wall of noise, really loud) for some strange reason when playing it with either VLC or MPC.. I tried saving as FLAC and as .wav, but the result is the same. I will try the 6 channel track and report back.
Your file probably has a different sample format from what the script expects (different sample size or byte order). Try replacing the "-24" with "24", "-16", or "16", depending on how you extracted the audio.
post #501 of 521
I tried all of those, but unfortunately, same wall of noise on all of them. I tried ripping the audio track again, but same problem when I run the script with the new audio file. By now the whole thing is giving me a headache, so I think I'm going to give this up, at least for the time being. Earlier today I started editing my own dub, using the Italian mono as the base and filling in the English dialogue (that way I can get rid of the more modern gun sounds that are in the 5.1 mix in the process). It is the only thing that has worked so far for me, so I think I'll stick with it. I really appreciate all your help, and Lyle_JP for helping, and I'm sorry if I wasted your time.
post #502 of 521
It's really not that hard. Try using eac3to and raw PCM format for the extraction.

For the 6-channel track:
eac3to X: 1) 3: gbu_6ch.pcm

For the stereo track:
eac3to X: 1) 4: gbu_2ch.pcm

Where X is your drive letter.
post #503 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rigby Reardon View Post

It's really not that hard. Try using eac3to and raw PCM format for the extraction.
For the 6-channel track:
eac3to X: 1) 3: gbu_6ch.pcm
For the stereo track:
eac3to X: 1) 4: gbu_2ch.pcm
Where X is your drive letter.

Well, I decided to go for one last shot and tried this (had to re-learn some basic command prompts first though). And it worked! I now have an audio file in flac format, noise-free. You're a lifesaver Rigby. Thank you very much for offering your time to help me with this, I can't even tell you how much I appreciate it. smile.gif
Edited by Primus motor - 7/17/12 at 12:20am
post #504 of 521
Is this version, released in Dec 2012, the same as the Mondo version being discussed above?
http://www.amazon.it/Il-Buono-Brutto-Cattivo/dp/B00ABXSTI6/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1361051964&sr=1-1
Is there a better place to acquire it from? Looking fwd to applying the script and seeing this movie in best possible audio and video quality.
post #505 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilditup1 View Post

Is this version, released in Dec 2012, the same as the Mondo version being discussed above?
http://www.amazon.it/Il-Buono-Brutto-Cattivo/dp/B00ABXSTI6/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1361051964&sr=1-1
Is there a better place to acquire it from? Looking fwd to applying the script and seeing this movie in best possible audio and video quality.[/quote

that one does say mondo on the cover, but the cases is different.
post #506 of 521
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by bilditup1 View Post

Is this version, released in Dec 2012, the same as the Mondo version being discussed above?
http://www.amazon.it/Il-Buono-Brutto-Cattivo/dp/B00ABXSTI6/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1361051964&sr=1-1
Is there a better place to acquire it from? Looking fwd to applying the script and seeing this movie in best possible audio and video quality.

that one does say mondo on the cover, but the cases is different.

Which doesn't tell us anything by itself...
post #507 of 521
you're saying mondo put out two BD versions?
post #508 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

that one does say mondo on the cover, but the cases is different.
The cover shown on Amazon.it looks exactly identical to the one I bought in 2009. It's very likely the same disc.
post #509 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

you're saying mondo put out two BD versions?
No, I was trying to say - it may be the same disc even though you said the covers differ. I thought you were trying to say that they weren't the same or sumfink. Thanks!
post #510 of 521
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilditup1 View Post

No, I was trying to say - it may be the same disc even though you said the covers differ. I thought you were trying to say that they weren't the same or sumfink. Thanks!

...you guys don't think there's somewhere cheaper than Amazon that'll ship to the US, do you? Instead of paying 13 Euros for shipping...
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