Originally Posted by Rammitinski
Auto-shutdown is turned off.
It's also shut down completely while watching when the auto-shutdown was off.
It's not quite as buggy as my F100 was (hasn't needed to be un-plugged), but it's still far from perfect.
I still wouldn't recommend it for those "just want to set it up and never have to worry about it" sort of people.
Interesting that you are still seeing unexpected shutdowns, I haven't seen any shutdown issues since I disabled the shutdown timer.
I haven't messed around much with the TVGOS or other advanced features, but at least so far, my Pal Plus box does seem to be a lot more stable than some have been reporting. I'm not sure if it's because I have more up to date firmware, or if it's just because I live in a market with only a few receivable stations, so the box doesn't have to work so hard to keep it's guide updated.
The Pal is a complex beast, and has features not offered on other boxes that make its firmware about an order of magnitude more complicated than simple boxes like the CM7000.
Dish has changed to slightly newer firmware several times, so at least they do seem to be committed to updating their product.
You seem to have a quite unforgiving attitude about the DTV-Pal Plus, and I don't blame you, if the box has features, they should work, but I get more upset when I see a simple box like the Channel Master CM7000, which has had almost NO firmware updates, despite some fairly easy to fix issues.
This is NOT because they just 'got it right the first time'; the channel master has several really annoying issues that could easily be fixed, and should have been fixed long ago, but Channel Master seems to be one of those companies that just slaps their name on some product and then does ZERO support updates.
The issue with the channel guide text font on the CM7000 being way too small has been known since day one, and should have been fixed months ago, long before I bought my box.
The front panel buttons have horrible key-bounce issues (you hit the button once and it jumps by two or three channels). Proper software key debounce is firmware-101 level programming that you have to be a total moron to mess up, but they did mess it up, and so far, ZERO updates to fix it.
The default CC fonts range in size from the microscopic sized default font which is literally totally useless, to an only slightly larger font, which is still so small that it is only marginally usable, and on top of that, the system setup feature that is supposed to let you pick a larger font is screwed up so it doesn’t even work for CC1 (the most commonly provided close captioning service option!). Makes you sort of wonder, did Channel Master do ANY firmware testing on their product at all?
Oh, and let's not leave out that wonderful CM7000 Remote that looks like it was laid out by having an autistic 4yo throw darts over his shoulder in a dark room.
So, I don't mind you being hard on Dish over bugs in the DTV Pal Plus, in fact I applaud it, but let's be fair.
The CM7000 has only about one tenth the features of the DVD Pal Plus, and was out for many months before I bough mine, so imagine my joy, not only to find that they screwed up on these really stupid bugs, but also to find that unlike some others like Tivax, they apparently didn't bother to make the firmware field updateable, so you just have to live with them forever.
I just wish that you and everyone else here had put the word out that absolutely no one should buy even one more CM7000, until the Channel Master folks have fixed a few simple bugs.
Unlike the Pal which is sold in brick and mortar stores, the CM7000 sells mainly by mail, on the strength of recommendations here and elsewhere on the web, so if the word had gone out that the CM7000 was a "pretty good box, but you might want to wait till they update the firmware and fix some issues."
Manufactures hate buyer uneasiness, because it makes people hold off and keep their money in their pocket, and if a few more folks had been a little more critical, and kept their money in their pockets, Channel Master would have fixed these issues months ago.