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post #31 of 104
5/13/09 at 8:48pm
I have a little problem here. I have a japanese ps3 so the "accept" and "back" buttons are reversed on my ps button menu. In other words, when I press the "ps" button, the menu comes up and I have circle to accept and x to back out as oppose to the other way around like everyone else has it.

So, my issue is turning off using the ps3 adapter. The "off" key for the harmony database is essentially a macro that hits the ps button, then cycles down to "turn system off" and hits "x" to accept. Well, for me this actually backs it out and doesn't turn it off. This "off" button cannot be reporgammed by me to reflect a circle at the end instead of x. Do you think Logitech support could do this for me or am I basically screwed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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post #32 of 104
5/14/09 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by mmmccall View Post

I have a little problem here. I have a japanese ps3 so the "accept" and "back" buttons are reversed on my ps button menu. In other words, when I press the "ps" button, the menu comes up and I have circle to accept and x to back out as oppose to the other way around like everyone else has it.

So, my issue is turning off using the ps3 adapter. The "off" key for the harmony database is essentially a macro that hits the ps button, then cycles down to "turn system off" and hits "x" to accept. Well, for me this actually backs it out and doesn't turn it off. This "off" button cannot be reporgammed by me to reflect a circle at the end instead of x. Do you think Logitech support could do this for me or am I basically screwed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I haven't played with the Harmony unit yet but I know the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 allows you to us a little software utility to create your own macros so getting the power down sequence the way you need would be a piece of cake!
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post #33 of 104
5/14/09 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by remoteshoppe View Post

I haven't played with the Harmony unit yet but I know the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 allows you to us a little software utility to create your own macros so getting the power down sequence the way you need would be a piece of cake!

yea, its not really like that because I didn't make the macro, its part of harmonys database as the "off" command. Since there is no discrete "off" for ps3, they created a macro to shut the system off and labeled it as their "off" key. Since my buttons are a little different, it doesn't work for me but I can't edit it because it is in the Harmony database.
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post #34 of 104
5/14/09 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by mmmccall View Post

yea, its not really like that because I didn't make the macro, its part of harmonys database as the "off" command. Since there is no discrete "off" for ps3, they created a macro to shut the system off and labeled it as their "off" key. Since my buttons are a little different, it doesn't work for me but I can't edit it because it is in the Harmony database.

That's exactly what I expected. Did you get the Harmony adapter from some place that accepts returns?
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post #35 of 104
5/15/09 at 9:44am
SHIPPING!!!

After 2 years and many wars, the world is now finally at peace as everyone around the globe cheered for ps3 to be controllable by infrared

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/12...icial-real-an/
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post #36 of 104
5/15/09 at 1:50pm
Mine just arrived!
I'll post how it was to set up later.
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post #37 of 104
5/15/09 at 2:10pm
It's actually much smaller than I expected it to be from the pics I'd seen, it's just a bit larger than a mouse.



OK setup was easy took less than 1 min since I'd already added the PS3 to my device & made an activity!

Since I gave my Dad a PS3 for Blu-Rays & I gave him a 880 for his Birthday I'll probably get him one of these for fathers day!
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post #38 of 104
5/15/09 at 3:08pm
Just got my adapter today..

Got it all setup and it's working great.
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post #39 of 104
5/15/09 at 6:51pm
you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?
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post #40 of 104
5/16/09 at 2:25am
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Originally Posted by gagaliya View Post

you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

You have been able to do that for ages with the better adaptors such as IR4PS3 & IR2BT etc.

Graham
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post #41 of 104
5/16/09 at 2:52am
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Originally Posted by Graham N View Post

You have been able to do that for ages with the better adaptors such as IR4PS3 & IR2BT etc.

Graham

but it's not shiny and harmony like the logitech!
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post #42 of 104
5/16/09 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by gagaliya View Post

you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

Yes, it runs a Macro though.
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post #43 of 104
5/16/09 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by gagaliya View Post

you guys didnt answer the most important question, can you finally turn on/off the ps3 from the harmony remote now?

Yes it does, as mentioned the off function is a macro & it is mislabeled in the customize buttons area as power off but it will also power it on.
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post #44 of 104
5/16/09 at 2:44pm
Got mine yesterday. Works great and looks sexy! Well worth the money!
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post #45 of 104
5/19/09 at 5:59am
Mine came yesterday and it works great, it is actually on the floor about 3ft away from my PS3 (because of wall plug) and works all the commands that I need perfect. I did have a connection problem at first and called, she confirmed it was correctly set up and still would not work, so she asked me to unplug it and replug and it started working after that. Hope that helps someone if there setup doesn't work immediately.
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post #46 of 104
5/19/09 at 2:22pm
Forgive me if I missed the answer to this, but is the harmony unit firmware/software upgradeable? That's one thing I really like about the the schmart stuff adapter, is that I wouldn't have to worry about a PS3 update permanently breaking the IR adapter's functionality. Right now I'm torn between this and the schmart stuff adapter.
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post #47 of 104
5/19/09 at 2:56pm
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It's actually much smaller than I expected it to be from the pics I'd seen, it's just a bit larger than a mouse.



OK setup was easy took less than 1 min since I'd already added the PS3 to my device & made an activity!

Since I gave my Dad a PS3 for Blu-Rays & I gave him a 880 for his Birthday I'll probably get him one of these for fathers day!

The picture of the Sony Playstation 3 remote, does that not turn on and off the PS3?
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post #48 of 104
5/19/09 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by Homebrew Racing View Post

Forgive me if I missed the answer to this, but is the harmony unit firmware/software upgradeable? That's one thing I really like about the the schmart stuff adapter, is that I wouldn't have to worry about a PS3 update permanently breaking the IR adapter's functionality. Right now I'm torn between this and the schmart stuff adapter.

The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.
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post #49 of 104
5/19/09 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

The picture of the Sony Playstation 3 remote, does that not turn on and off the PS3?

The PS3 remote does give you full control but that defeats the purpose for having a universal remote. The purpose of the Harmony Adapter and the other IR to Bluetooth adapters is that you can now put that PS3 remote away and make your universal remote control everything - including the PS3.
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post #50 of 104
5/19/09 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by remoteshoppe View Post

The PS3 remote does give you full control but that defeats the purpose for having a universal remote. The purpose of the Harmony Adapter and the other IR to Bluetooth adapters is that you can now put that PS3 remote away and make your universal remote control everything - including the PS3.

Thanks shoppe but another question, can the PS3 remote be able to be program to control other components?
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post #51 of 104
5/19/09 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Thanks shoppe but another question, can the PS3 remote be able to be program to control other components?

Nope.
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post #52 of 104
5/19/09 at 8:56pm
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Nope.

Ok thanks.
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post #53 of 104
5/20/09 at 12:35am
Mine is also on the way, that and a Harmony One to replace my 880.
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post #54 of 104
5/20/09 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by remoteshoppe View Post

The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.

Much appreciated, I think that pretty much rules out the harmony for me. I don't know what the odds are of a PS3 update breaking things, but I'd rather not chance it.
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post #55 of 104
5/20/09 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by remoteshoppe View Post

The Harmony adapter is not upgradeable. There has already been a PS3 firmware update the day after the Harmony adapter was released and it's still fine but there is always a chance that the wise folks at Sony could change affect the Harmony unit.

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Much appreciated, I think that pretty much rules out the harmony for me. I don't know what the odds are of a PS3 update breaking things, but I'd rather not chance it.

Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.
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post #56 of 104
5/20/09 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

True and if something did change I am sure they could work around it simply sending a different IR command to the unit so either way you look at it, it should be fine.
I got mine this morning will be testing it out after work.
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post #57 of 104
5/20/09 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

I'm not sure what they could do to mess it up, but I could have a sworn an update killed some things in the early run of ir2bt adapters. I thought that was the big reason the updatability of the schmart stuff pro unit was such a big deal. I'll have to go back and read, but again I could have sworn it had happened in the past.
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post #58 of 104
5/20/09 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just what kind of update do you think would cause it to stop working?

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

The PS3 is receiving bluetooth signals from the Harmony, it doesn't know or care if the bluetooth signals come from a controller, the Sony remote or the Harmony.

So I wouldn't worry at all about an update causing problems for the Harmony.

Something like what already happened with a device that is pretty much identical to this one.

http://www.ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189

I wonder if Bruce sold the IR2BT design to Logitech? That would explain the discontinuation of that unit and the upgraded IR2BTci.

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Originally Posted by Homebrew Racing View Post

I'm not sure what they could do to mess it up, but I could have a sworn an update killed some things in the early run of ir2bt adapters. I thought that was the big reason the updatability of the schmart stuff pro unit was such a big deal. I'll have to go back and read, but again I could have sworn it had happened in the past.

It isn't the IR codes that is the big deal, it is the BT pairing that can kill it.
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post #59 of 104
5/20/09 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Any update that would cause the Harmony to stop working would also cause the controllers & Sony remote to stop working.

That's not true. The Sony controllers may be connected to a USB port on the PS3 and may be updated along with the PS3 unit itself. The Harmony has no upgrade capability at all.

Please don't misunderstand me... I'm not trying to sound like chicken little and scream "the sky is falling." I don't think Logitech would release a product like this unless they had some assurances from Sony that it would not be obsoleted in the near future. I was just trying to point out that there is in fact a reason that the Schmartz unit is more expensive. It's compatible with any remote, it's upgradeable, can store macros and has power sensing. Some people will pay more for those features, other's won't, I'm just trying to help everyone make an informed decision.
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post #60 of 104
5/21/09 at 5:14am
Received my Harmony Adapter last night, and it worked perfectly with my Harmony One. I removed and re-added the PS3 to my device database, paired the adapter to the PS3, and ran through all the commands (On, Off, etc.). Another winner from Logitech (though I do wish it was about $20 cheaper).

There's nothing better than the wife's thumbs up when everything just works...it also guarantees more gadget purchases in my near future
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