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post #121 of 483
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Originally Posted by Biddy View Post

I just got this ordered...is there another "official thread" for it?

Any suggested settings anywhere?

Do an lcd forum specific search for L32S1 and L37S1, you'll find a decent amount of commentary and settings suggestions. There are some settings info in this thread as well, it all depends on what you'll be using it for though.

There's an official thread on the L37S1 also, that one goes into calibration quite a bit, and gets pretty technical imho.
post #122 of 483
thanks.

any reason why I could not use http://www.westinghousedigital.com/d...spx?itemnum=63 to mount this?

I have it lying around somewhere ...
post #123 of 483
Damn, the S1 looks so nice but the 1080p resolution is kind of a turn off for me. I really want to run my PS3/360 games closest to their native resolutions. I know the 360 can scale them but I know the PS3 can't. I'm also under the impression that SD content would look better on a 720p television huh?

Would the TC-L32X1 be better suited for me? I've known not to trust manufactuers numbers and ratings(contrast ratio, etc.), so on paper the X1 would be like a 720p version of the S1 right? Or am I wrong???
post #124 of 483
I found a lot of interesting information reading through the thread. I am looking to buy this LCD and use it to watch movies with my apple (macbook pro (latest version) macbook or mac mini). Maybe I might use it sometimes as a monitor to access netflix or hulu. I am curious to know if anybody has good experiences connecting it to apple computers.

Since apple doesn't provide that many display/resolution tuning options I want to be sure this will be a good choice.

Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,
E
post #125 of 483
Go to page 48 of the manual at this link:

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCL32S1.pdf

It talks about the possible computer resolutions.

I am thinking about this one too since it's on sale today... I was shopping for a 40-42" at around $650 - but this one has pretty much everything I'm after except for size... So I'm not sure... The 42" TC-L42U12 also reportedly has an IPS panel and it was selling for around the high $6xx low $7xx. It just seems like this is a high value to price set, which is always what I look for...

Also, the picture viewer is kind of important to me because that would be one of my main uses since getting back into (digital) photography. It looks like you cannot zoom in on pictures, which is kind of a bummer... (Not a problem if you're using a computer I guess.)

@beefjerk... I know what you mean about scaling - it's always a concern. Usually scaling DOWN from high res to low is not a problem - it's usually going from less information to more (low to high res) where things start to look soft... I don't know - scalers are getting really good. To me it's about viewing distance - if you're going to be back far enough to not notice the pixel size, then 720 should be fine - and it would match your native input. (However remember that blu-ray and maybe some PS3 games could be native 1080?)
post #126 of 483
Got a notice from Amazon today...the 32s1 is the deal of day, under 4 hunny.
post #127 of 483
Just ordered from Amazon. Damn those Gold Box deals.

It's going in front of my treadmill in the garage, replacing an old CRT. Plan to add a Netflix-streaming blu ray player (LG? Sony?) and perhaps the JVC Sound bar / sub.

Should be good enough for using while on the treadmill, no?
post #128 of 483
absolutely, it almost seems like a crime to dedicate such a good set to just treadmill use
post #129 of 483
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Originally Posted by edgardb View Post

I found a lot of interesting information reading through the thread. I am looking to buy this LCD and use it to watch movies with my apple (macbook pro (latest version) macbook or mac mini). Maybe I might use it sometimes as a monitor to access netflix or hulu. I am curious to know if anybody has good experiences connecting it to apple computers.

Since apple doesn't provide that many display/resolution tuning options I want to be sure this will be a good choice.

Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,
E

I have a 37 inch S1 and hooked up my Mac Mini to it for a while via an DVI to HDMI adapter, the mini sent a great 1080p signal, looked sharp to me. If you have either S1 model make sure to turn off the overscan that way you get 100% of the computer's signal going to the display without the tv cutting off the edges of the picture. I believe it's under Menu, Picture, 2nd page, Advance, and then select HD Size setting 2 to eliminate the overscan.
post #130 of 483
Sorry if I missed it but can anyone post their settings for regular TV viewing? Thanks in advance.
post #131 of 483
Can someone please answer this one question: How is the motion blur when playing First Person games in dark areas?

I'm new to LCD TVs and I've been through two so far (samsung b460 and LG 32lh30). Both had MVA panels I believe and both had horrible motion blur/ image retention/ smearing when playing games or watching movies with dark scenes. It was so bad that when I was recently playing a game it gave me a headache. I returned the Sammy and am close to returning the LG. I need to know if this is mainly an issue with LCDs in general or if it mainly an issue with MVA panels.

I'm considering buying this TV just for the IPS-A panel in hopes that it would fix the extreme blurring issue I've encountered with my other two recent TVs. This would be my last chance for an exchange though so I want to know before I take the plunge.
post #132 of 483
Also, is this model guaranteed to have an IPS panel? Because I thought LG was, until I took it home, then found out it was an MVA.
post #133 of 483
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Originally Posted by Roadex View Post

Can someone please answer this one question: How is the motion blur when playing First Person games in dark areas?

I'm new to LCD TVs and I've been through two so far (samsung b460 and LG 32lh30). Both had MVA panels I believe and both had horrible motion blur/ image retention/ smearing when playing games or watching movies with dark scenes. It was so bad that when I was recently playing a game it gave me a headache. I returned the Sammy and am close to returning the LG. I need to know if this is mainly an issue with LCDs in general or if it mainly an issue with MVA panels.

I'm considering buying this TV just for the IPS-A panel in hopes that it would fix the extreme blurring issue I've encountered with my other two recent TVs. This would be my last chance for an exchange though so I want to know before I take the plunge.

I play MW2 on the S1 almost daily and do not experience any smearing. I have the S1's black level set to light and my Xbox reference level to standard.

As far as the panels, there haven't been any reports hinting at a possible lottery similar to that of LG and Samsung.
post #134 of 483
yeah as Odysseus said if you get a panasonic 32/37 S1 it will have an IPS-Pro panel.

I have a 37 S1 and use it as a PC monitor. Pixel smearing is not evident in any game i play or in windows and with test patterns designed to induce smearing it performs very good, much better than my Toshiba 40xv645u that exhibited the same thing your talking about with dark image smearing
post #135 of 483
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Originally Posted by frito View Post

yeah as Odysseus said if you get a panasonic 32/37 S1 it will have an IPS-Pro panel.

I have a 37 S1 and use it as a PC monitor. Pixel smearing is not evident in any game i play or in windows and with test patterns designed to induce smearing it performs very good, much better than my Toshiba 40xv645u that exhibited the same thing your talking about with dark image smearing

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Originally Posted by Odysseus18 View Post

I play MW2 on the S1 almost daily and do not experience any smearing. I have the S1's black level set to light and my Xbox reference level to standard.

As far as the panels, there haven't been any reports hinting at a possible lottery similar to that of LG and Samsung.

Thank you guys. That's what I needed to know. I'm relieved to know there is hope yet. I'm definitely getting this TV ASAP.
post #136 of 483
I got my TV today, and I'm pretty impressed. The text issue wasn't as bad as I thought it would be (blur), and I only really notice it when I'm right up against the screen. No dead pixels and no ghosting. I can't decide if I should keep my IPS 2209WA, since I like the higher resolution more.
post #137 of 483
yeah some people blow the text issue out of proportion imo

run cleartype and turn the sharpness down to 0-10 and it will look great with text
post #138 of 483
Any of you guys have a PS3 and the S1? I know PS3 games automatically will upscale to 1080p regardless of the setting chosen.

How well does this set handle SD content btw too?
post #139 of 483
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Originally Posted by beefjerky_7 View Post

Any of you guys have a PS3 and the S1? I know PS3 games automatically will upscale to 1080p regardless of the setting chosen.

How well does this set handle SD content btw too?

sorry no PS3, i sold mine awhile ago

PS3 does not upscale games to whatever resolution you want, in fact most PS3 games are 720p

SD is pretty good, the internal tuner works great with cable (as good as can be expected these days at least) SD channels viewed on my new Pace HD box from comcast is pretty good, my old Motorola SD Cable box was terrible however but it was that bad with any TV i hooked it up to (short of a CRT)
post #140 of 483
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Originally Posted by frito View Post

sorry no PS3, i sold mine awhile ago

PS3 does not upscale games to whatever resolution you want, in fact most PS3 games are 720p

SD is pretty good, the internal tuner works great with cable (as good as can be expected these days at least) SD channels viewed on my new Pace HD box from comcast is pretty good, my old Motorola SD Cable box was terrible however but it was that bad with any TV i hooked it up to (short of a CRT)

Oh yeah, what I was trying to say is that the TV will automatically scale it to 1080p, not the PS3.

So do you think SD would look better on this set or a 720p set like the X1? I'd be under the assumption that it'd look better on the X1 since it has less pixels therefore it doesn't have to scale it as much as a 1080p set like the S1. Or am I just flat out wrong?
post #141 of 483
SD will likely look a little bit better on a 720p

really what determines how good/bad SD looks on any HDTV are 2 things

the quality of the SD source (digital cable is terrible and will look terrible, satellite and FiOS look much better in SD)

how far you are away from the TV when watching SD vs the screen size of the TV

The smaller the TV the better SD looks period and the bigger the TV the further back you need to be for it to look acceptable

we have a 50" 720p plasma in the living room and comcast SD looks ok on it from 10 feet away but it certainly could be better and its mostly due to comcasts super high compression that makes it look bad, not the TV

SD on my 37" 1080p LCD looks pretty bad when im at my desk and 2-3 feet away from the screen, if i go lay on my bed it looks good (6-7 feet away)

TV's internal scaliers these days are all very good and have little to do with how it looks, thus far in all the brand TV's i've owned Sony's are capable of doing the best job making SD look better and this is because they use a blur technique called box blur (well my sony 32xbr6 did this as well as other some models that i know of) and it will blend the picture at the pixel level making you loose detail when used with a game console/PC/high quality video source like BD's but with lower quality sources it softened the picture enough to make it look better

in short what really matters is how far away you view the TV vs its size and how good your TV service is
post #142 of 483
Any 720p IPS-Pro displays?
If not then I was considering picking up this display but with all the praise the Panny model is getting, I'll wait it out a bit longer.
post #143 of 483
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Originally Posted by LR6AGB001 View Post

Any 720p IPS-Pro displays?
If not then I was considering picking up this display but with all the praise the Panny model is getting, I'll wait it out a bit longer.

yeah all of the 720p 32" pannys are IPS-Pro
post #144 of 483
Is the IPS alpha/pro panel a 10-bit panel or an 8-bit panel?
post #145 of 483
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Originally Posted by Roadex View Post

Is the IPS alpha/pro panel a 10-bit panel or an 8-bit panel?

10 bit
post #146 of 483
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Originally Posted by gtlodger00 View Post

I have a 37 inch S1 and hooked up my Mac Mini to it for a while via an DVI to HDMI adapter, the mini sent a great 1080p signal, looked sharp to me. If you have either S1 model make sure to turn off the overscan that way you get 100% of the computer's signal going to the display without the tv cutting off the edges of the picture. I believe it's under Menu, Picture, 2nd page, Advance, and then select HD Size setting 2 to eliminate the overscan.

I have a ATI Radeon 4800.. tried playing with HD 1 VS 2, and cant get rid of the overscan problem.

What format do you set your screen to?

I am going through DVI to HDMI...
post #147 of 483
Well count me in as a new IPS-Pro L32S1 member. Scored one from Amazon for $439, sold by Amazon.

main selling points were

#1. 10-bit IPS Pro panel
#2. burned by Samsung LS32B360 Panel lottery got C panel.
#3. LGLH30 I saw that thread now LG is playing the panel lottery game.
#4. According to Amazon Bestsellers page this is the #3 selling HDTV in the country.
#5. Tons of forums drooling over this TV
#6. Best HDTV for Xbox 360 PS3 Gaming, and Wii because it has an S-Video port
#7. I have been watching this exact model for 1 week now and prices are actually slowly going UP.


Considering I paid $406 with tax at BB for a 720p LS32B360 and got burned with a cheap off brand non Samsung (C) panel.

For and extra $30 bucks, a 10-bit IPS Pro panel, 1080p Panasonic sounds good.
post #148 of 483
The spec sheet doesn't mention the maximum resolution for video via VGA.
nm, it seems to be 1280x1024.
post #149 of 483
How come I cant get windows 7 to put this lil guy into 120hz?
post #150 of 483
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Originally Posted by fuih8u View Post

How come I cant get windows 7 to put this lil guy into 120hz?

because I am sure when the made this panel the were not planning on Windows 7 and all it can do.


And I am guessing the only thing separating this panel from the more expensive model above it is some sort of Software Roadblock, sounds like Windows 7 (fails to see that roadblock) and says Hey 120hz is here.
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