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post #301 of 482
I need some help. I bought this lcd to use as a computer monitor as well as a tv/gaming tv.

But over hdmi I cant get it to go full screen. 1920x1080 and there is a border around the screen. Tried zoom 1 and 2 helps a bit. Tried all the view formats, still nothing that is true full screen. I am sure I am doing something wrong as another pc I hooked up to the tv via HDMI was full screen.
post #302 of 482
Received this television yesterday and used it for three hours. Now I'm ready to sell it. I'm just one of those individuals who can't take the brightness of an lcd no matter what adjustments I make. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm sitting two feet away but there's no other way around it.

Also, the font issue that's been discussed here is unacceptable to me. I even used "Clear Tweak" which is a freeware program that helps smooth fonts and that didn't help at all. I think I'm going to have to try my luck with a computer monitor that has an IPS panel.

I packed it back in its box and now I'll put it on Craigslist.
post #303 of 482
I've had a few IPS panels and I noticed the same font issue on the Dell 2209's I've had. Can't speak for the 24" or the NEC models though.
post #304 of 482
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Originally Posted by MrOldboy View Post

I need some help. I bought this lcd to use as a computer monitor as well as a tv/gaming tv.

But over hdmi I cant get it to go full screen. 1920x1080 and there is a border around the screen. Tried zoom 1 and 2 helps a bit. Tried all the view formats, still nothing that is true full screen. I am sure I am doing something wrong as another pc I hooked up to the tv via HDMI was full screen.

you need to go into the picture menu then advanced menu and set HD size from 1 to 2 and overscan will be shut off with a 1920 x 1080 input
post #305 of 482
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Originally Posted by Citric_Acid View Post

Received this television yesterday and used it for three hours. Now I'm ready to sell it. I'm just one of those individuals who can't take the brightness of an lcd no matter what adjustments I make. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm sitting two feet away but there's no other way around it.

Also, the font issue that's been discussed here is unacceptable to me. I even used "Clear Tweak" which is a freeware program that helps smooth fonts and that didn't help at all. I think I'm going to have to try my luck with a computer monitor that has an IPS panel.

I packed it back in its box and now I'll put it on Craigslist.

did you turn down the backlight setting?

if you turn backlight down to 30-45 it should not be that bright, my 37S1 is not and you can go even lower if you want, they get pretty dim at the lowest setting actually


the text problems has been gone over quite a bit, it takes some time tweaking the picture settings to find the right one but definitely turn sharpness all the way down or to maybe 10 at most otherwise you will have issues with text on these TV's no matter what.

the Sharpness setting does not add edge enhancement at 0 and anything over 0 adds artificial edge enhancement and destroys all text.

even once you get it to look the best it may still look slightly odd to you, this is normal for an LCD TV used as a PC monitor because of how big the text your reading is on the screen when your that close. if you give the TV a few days or say a week you will get used to it and have no problems with text on it except for the noted bad color combination's that are rarely encountered with normal use like red over black or magenta and blue over black or darker blue etc. there is no way to fix those but even other LCD PC monitor have trouble with them to an extent sometimes
post #306 of 482
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Originally Posted by frito View Post

did you turn down the backlight setting?

if you turn backlight down to 30-45 it should not be that bright, my 37S1 is not and you can go even lower if you want, they get pretty dim at the lowest setting actually


the text problems has been gone over quite a bit, it takes some time tweaking the picture settings to find the right one but definitely turn sharpness all the way down or to maybe 10 at most otherwise you will have issues with text on these TV's no matter what.

the Sharpness setting does not add edge enhancement at 0 and anything over 0 adds artificial edge enhancement and destroys all text.

even once you get it to look the best it may still look slightly odd to you, this is normal for an LCD TV used as a PC monitor because of how big the text your reading is on the screen when your that close. if you give the TV a few days or say a week you will get used to it and have no problems with text on it except for the noted bad color combination's that are rarely encountered with normal use like red over black or magenta and blue over black or darker blue etc. there is no way to fix those but even other LCD PC monitor have trouble with them to an extent sometimes

I tried all those things. I copied and paste all the tips I gathered from this thread before purchasing this tv. I mostly see the colored text in Firefox and Gmail. Honestly, I don't want to get used to something mediocre when I'm used to the best.

I knew the risks when I laid down the cash, but I had to be sure. It's in the box and I don't want to go through all that trouble in unpacking and swapping my monitor for the Panny. Thanks for the help, though.
post #307 of 482
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Originally Posted by Citric_Acid View Post

I tried all those things. I copied and paste all the tips I gathered from this thread before purchasing this tv. I mostly see the colored text in Firefox and Gmail. Honestly, I don't want to get used to something mediocre when I'm used to the best.

I knew the risks when I laid down the cash, but I had to be sure. It's in the box and I don't want to go through all that trouble in unpacking and swapping my monitor for the Panny. Thanks for the help, though.

no problem, i figured i'd at least check to make sure you tried everything first, using a LCD TV as a PC monitor certainly is not for everyone and it can take some getting used to but IMO its worth it for the added immersion level you get in FPS games having a giant monitor in your face
post #308 of 482
post #309 of 482
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Why start a new thread when you can just post your question in the two S1 threads that exist.
post #310 of 482
sorry...

just wondering if you guys think i should try and find an S1 (getting harder to come by) or grab the 2010 model the TC-L32U22...the only difference i can see from the spec sheet is the newer model doesnt have the motion focus technology...this is a basement tv and will only be used for PS3 gaming and SD tv.
post #311 of 482
so even though the response time is listed at 8ms for the S1, because it has an ISP panel it is more responsive?

i notice lag (with the meter) when playing hot shots golf through HDMI on my current 2 year old samsung lcd.
post #312 of 482
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Originally Posted by hort22 View Post

so even though the response time is listed at 8ms for the S1

You can safely ignore the response time spec when shopping for TV's, it's become just another useless number amongst some of the others.
post #313 of 482
TC-L32U22 has no Motion Focus Technology (which IMO helps) but its just a scanning backlight.

And it lacks a GAME MODE. Why would it be missing GAME MODE for an LCD HDTV in 2010??
post #314 of 482
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post

TC-L32U22 has no Motion Focus Technology (which IMO helps) but its just a scanning backlight.

And it lacks a GAME MODE. Why would it be missing GAME MODE for an LCD HDTV in 2010??

well the S1 has been tested to be pretty input lag free...might just go with that model.
post #315 of 482
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post


TC-L32U22 ... And it lacks a GAME MODE. Why would it be missing GAME MODE for an LCD HDTV in 2010??

I could be wrong but didn't Frito mention in a prior post that game mode means nothing on panasonic sets, and that it's just a color + color temperature change and has nothing to do with video processing?

If so then lacking a game mode wouldn't mean much of anything.

Can't say for sure because no one has ever tested the L32U22 that i know of, I guess we'll wait for those results to come in
post #316 of 482
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Originally Posted by sjetski71 View Post

I could be wrong but didn't Frito mention in a prior post that game mode means nothing on panasonic sets, and that it's just a color + color temperature change and has nothing to do with video processing?

If so then lacking a game mode wouldn't mean much of anything.

Can't say for sure because no one has ever tested the L32U22 that i know of, I guess we'll wait for those results to come in

yes afaik every Panasonic TV be it LCD or Plasma game mode is simply another picture mode and does not reduce input lag in any way as long as picture settings are equal between both picture mode.

Panny's without game mode still normally perform good.
post #317 of 482
I am concerned more and more about my new TC-L32S1 I've had it now for 3 weeks or so. And posted about a slight buzzing noise emitted from the back panel when the TV has been on for over an hour. It had previously been absent but now it has returned.

The best way I can diagnose the problem or explain it. Is when you turn the TV on theres a normal "clicK" sound ok. When you turn the TV off theres a normal "click" sound made by I guess a power relay. Fine

Now when this Buzzing is present. You Turn the TV off after watching press the power button on the remote to power off, and theres a 5 second wait between the time you press off to when you here the relay "click" off.

Then if you hold go around back the TV as if to adjust cables you can hear a slight buzzing.

Heres the weird part. When I completely unplug the TV from the power socket. Of course theres no buzzing.

Now when I plug the unit back into the socket there a "click" sound made by the TV just because it as plugged in, this is normal, and theres no buzzing. Now without having turned on the TV, theres a 5 sec pause and another "click" sound as if someone has turned the unit on (but no one has) and the unit is off. And the buzzing is there again.

I know its normal for there to be 1 click sound when the TV is plugged into the socket. But 2 click sound separated by 5 sencods and followed by buzzing is suspicious.

Now the unit works perfect. And you can watch TV for and hour and turn it off no buzzing.

But more than 1 hour and you turn the unit off and theres buzzing.

I tried lowering the backlight I tried turn Eco mode on off. Same results.


Now the buzzing is not a problem its barely audible even up close.

My concern is that this electrical type buzzing means the unit is drawing way more current or Watts when its off.

Not sure what to do.

In short.

TV on click watch for 1 hour power off 5 sec pause click no buzzing.

or

TV on click watch for over 1 hour power off 5 sec pause click yes Buzzing. Unplug from socket, buzzing gone, wait 3 minutes plug back into socket click, wait 5 more seconds another "click" buzzing resumes (an no one has turned it on) Now turn unit on click, unit now on buzzing is gone.

This may end up being normal. Not sure.
post #318 of 482
if you can't hear it at a normal distance from the TV in a quiet room its completely normal for a power supply to make a low level buzz and your just looking too deep into this IMO

this is sort of like having 1 small green stuck pixel on an LCD and saying hey i got a stuck pixel and if i put up a red screen and get within 2 feet of the TV i can see it clear as day but at normal viewing distance/normal viewing content its never visible but i still know its there

the lesson is forget about it because even though it may be a slight manufacturing flaw its not a major one and will not cause you problems down the road, transformers in power supplies often generate low volume buzzing sounds most of the time they will be of too high of a frequency for your ears to hear it but it is in fact there.
post #319 of 482
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Originally Posted by frito View Post

it will accept a 1080p/24 input signal as will my 37S1

however nothing is gained by doing so

The Australian S10, G10 and V10 models, which I think are equivalent to the USA versions, all have a 24p capability which Panasonic says refreshes at 96Hz.

Does this not offer any improvement over a 24p->60p via pulldown arrangement?
post #320 of 482
Called Panasonic, they gave me the number for a couple of Panasonic authorized service centers near me. I managed to speak to a service technician at both locations, they both came to the same conclusion that this mosquito buzzing noise is completely normal especially since it goes away. Pretty nice especially since Panasonic agreed to as a courtesy pay for a technician to come out and evaluate the TV, normally for anything under 42 inches they only cover carry in service. But they agreed to pay for and cover a home visit. Which I am not going to bother with.

On a side note switching gears.

How do we install this update or software update to the TV?

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e....TC-L32S1.D#ts
post #321 of 482
i just got done chatting with panasonic asking the difference between both the S1 and U22...i tell her the tv will be used about 95% PS3 gaming...she replies with, "well you need to break in the TV for 100 hourse before you start gaming on it."

anyone ever do that with an lcd?
post #322 of 482
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Originally Posted by hort22 View Post

i just got done chatting with panasonic asking the difference between both the S1 and U22...i tell her the tv will be used about 95% PS3 gaming...she replies with, "well you need to break in the TV for 100 hourse before you start gaming on it."

anyone ever do that with an lcd?

Not nessisary, remember panny mostly makes plasmas so they prolly tell their csr's to tell
Everyone to do that just to be safe
post #323 of 482
Hi Frito and all you other good folks.
I just bought a Panasonic Viera TC-L32S1. It will be our bedroom TV not a computer screen.
I went to LCDTVbuyingguide.com to find the "Optimal Picture Settings", buy they don't list this TV.
Does anybody know the "Optimal Picture Settings" for things like:
Picture Mode
Picture Brightness
Color
Tint
Sharpness
Anything else?
Thanks in advance for your help.
post #324 of 482
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Originally Posted by JerseySchmersey View Post

Hi Frito and all you other good folks.
I just bought a Panasonic Viera TC-L32S1. It will be our bedroom TV not a computer screen.
I went to LCDTVbuyingguide.com to find the "Optimal Picture Settings", buy they don't list this TV.
Does anybody know the "Optimal Picture Settings" for things like:
Picture Mode
Picture Brightness
Color
Tint
Sharpness
Anything else?
Thanks in advance for your help.

well this will vary depending on your room lighting and daytime setting will be different than nighttime settings

for my 37S1 i use
cinema pic mode
Backlight 60
Contrast 85
rightness 34
color 41
tint +4
sharpness 0 (this is for PC use you may want to turn this up but it adds edge enhancement above 0 so i would not go near the default settings of 50+ )
color temp warm
color mgmt off
x.v. color auto
A.I. picture off (this is a backlight auto dim, many find it annoying and i would only use it for night time settings)
Video NR OFF (if your watching cable you may want to turn it on but it does not seem to do much of anything anyways)

in advanced settings

motion focus on for TV/Movies
black level light (if you set this to dark it will crush blacks and you will loose shadow detail in images)

once again my settings are for a 37S1, i have tweaked white balance settings in the service menu so if warm is too warm for your eyes then go to normal setting, my warm is not the same as yours 100% guaranteed, use these as a guide to adjust from there till it looks good to you, if you have any THX certified DVD's you can use their calibration setup section on them to better adjust contrast and brightness settings for your specific TV and as far as color is concerned the best thing to do if you don't have a good calibration disc like DVE HD basics (or the dvd version) put something on where you can see peoples faces (multiple faces are better so you can get a better idea what everyone's skin tone should look like) and adjust your color and tint till they look correct to you and this will be a roughly accurate color and tint setting

for night time viewing in a dark room you will want to setup another picture mode the same way and probably lower the backlight setting down to 20-30 so blacks look better and go from there, if you want you can also turn on A.I picture for night time viewing but setting a low backlight level pretty much nullifies what it does and most people find it annoying anyways.

also avoid going below 20 on the backlight setting if you want to use motion focus, i've noticed on my 37S1 that motion focus's scanning backlight flicker can start to act odd when the backlight is set too low (less than 20)
post #325 of 482
Yikes, anyone see the merchants roll out the 2010 replacement models?

Provantage.com currently has the 37" L37U22 for a song.
post #326 of 482
I'm looking at this set to replace a tv and computer monitor in my den. Does this have picture in a picture? I could have the main screen be the computer image and the PIP be the TV tuner?

Thanks for the help
post #327 of 482
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Originally Posted by DanQ View Post

I'm looking at this set to replace a tv and computer monitor in my den. Does this have picture in a picture? I could have the main screen be the computer image and the PIP be the TV tuner?

Thanks for the help

no PiP and most TV's these days do not have this, top of the line sony's often do but make for bad gaming TV's if that matters to you
post #328 of 482
Not so much a gamer as just looking for a decent monitor for ms word docs and a decent HDTV tuner
post #329 of 482
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Originally Posted by sjetski71 View Post

Yikes, anyone see the prices on the 2010 replacement models?

They're better than i thought, Provantage.com currently has the 37" L37U22 for around $540 with shipping

We're not allowed to talk about pricing...
post #330 of 482
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post

How do we install this update or software update to the TV?

According to this page (I am not yet allowed to post working link, please add w w w in front of link below)
.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=24748

"Its a pretty easy update as you basically need a SD card, a sd card reader or some way to put the update on the sd card and the sd card formatter which basically makes sure that your sd card is formatted to the panasonic standard."

That said, does anyone know how do I find info about currently installed firmware?
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