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post #3031 of 3219
Ill try and take some pictures tomorrow. What about the firmware update though? Should I roll it back or leave it as is?
post #3032 of 3219
Turn down the brightness to get rid of the dots.
post #3033 of 3219
What about firmware?
post #3034 of 3219
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Originally Posted by remedy1978 View Post

What about firmware?

I don't see any problem having the latest firmware, I've had it for about a week with no problems. If you started having some problems with the firmware, then I would role it back. Other than that I would keep the latest. Maybe people with a little more experience will comment.
post #3035 of 3219
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Originally Posted by remedy1978 View Post

Just purchased my pn58b860 on Tuesday. Love the picture. My wife and I returned the pn50c550 because in our opinion it wasn't much better than our 37" LCD. Two questions for you guys:

1.) I updated the firmware to 0017 or whatever the latest is. Should I have left it on the factory firmware or does it make a difference? Any issues with latest firmware?

2.) I see those dancing little dots on the screen. Something to be concerned about or normal?

Any input would be appreciated!


Was actually playing around with the GAMMA setting a couple days ago. Was on a black screen and noticed that if I set it to +1 or higher I get the "dancing dots". Anything below +1 was just a black screen, as if the TV was off.
post #3036 of 3219
Well, I just received my second 58B860 (the screen on the first one was cracked) and am currently running the plasma break in DVD. I can definately notice the buzz from 12+ feet back, but my fiance can't hear it at all... Maybe this is why some people can hear it and some can not (or maybe she and people who can't hear it are half deaf).

Or it could be because of the height of everyones stand or a combination of less sensitive ears and below (please read on)

When I sit on my computer chair, and my head is level about 1/4 to 1/2 way up the screen - it's like a beam of buzz straight towards me. Not extremely anoying (could be though) - but noticable "to me". HOWEVER, when you move your head down level to about the lower bezel - the buzz goes completely away. It is very strange. That confirms, in my opinion and from my experience, that it is like a beam shooting out the buzzing sound.
The good thing for us is that we just bought a somewhat high stand. When we sit on our couch, our heads are about level with the lower bezel - so we (I) should not have any buzzing issues.

Note: the buzzing beam is the same buzz sound that you can hear from the back of the Plasma (which is a normal Plasma sound) - it just seems to be projected out from the screen in a beam manor.
post #3037 of 3219
One of the reasons I shelled out the extra cash for my 58" B860 was for the DLNA and networking features. Reading this thread yields few comments, or suggestions. I have had great success with the PC Share software for streaming movies from my PC with the MKV container. Netflix and Hulu are workable using third party software, but I would really like to see a software upgrade from Samsung to add the Netflix widget that is now on the C series panels.
post #3038 of 3219
Any one using the Monoprice 3725 bracket?

If so do you like it? Any complaints?
post #3039 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by aeromonte View Post

Well, I just received my second 58B860 (the screen on the first one was cracked) and am currently running the plasma break in DVD. I can definately notice the buzz from 12+ feet back, but my fiance can't hear it at all... Maybe this is why some people can hear it and some can not (or maybe she and people who can't hear it are half deaf).

Or it could be because of the height of everyones stand or a combination of less sensitive ears and below (please read on)

When I sit on my computer chair, and my head is level about 1/4 to 1/2 way up the screen - it's like a beam of buzz straight towards me. Not extremely anoying (could be though) - but noticable "to me". HOWEVER, when you move your head down level to about the lower bezel - the buzz goes completely away. It is very strange. That confirms, in my opinion and from my experience, that it is like a beam shooting out the buzzing sound.
The good thing for us is that we just bought a somewhat high stand. When we sit on our couch, our heads are about level with the lower bezel - so we (I) should not have any buzzing issues.

Note: the buzzing beam is the same buzz sound that you can hear from the back of the Plasma (which is a normal Plasma sound) - it just seems to be projected out from the screen in a beam manor.

This is a product of your room's harmonics. Like you say, in most areas of your room, the noise is inaudible, but in certain areas, the buzz is audible. In those very specific spots, the wavelengths combine constructively, effectively doubling the sound pressure and pushing it within the threshold of hearing. In all of the other places, the sound waves of the buzzing are there, but combine destructively, keeping the sound below the threshold of hearing. I'd be willing to bet that if you angled the TV slightly or moved the TV a few inches towards or away from the wall, the spots where you hear the buzz change - it would no longer be directly in front of the TV.

If you placed the TV in an anechoic chamber, you'd probably only hear the buzzing if you were right next to it.
post #3040 of 3219
Picked up a PNB860 a couple weeks back and had a question hoping someone could answer. Is it normal to have IR after watching content, say MLB network or ESPN with bottom line ticker for 10 minutes. I powered on the plasma for a few minutes to get some MLB updates then left the house. When I came back later that evening and turned on the set I noticed the IR on the black screen.

I have been breaking in this set for about a month. Most of my viewing so far has been HD content 16x9 usually HD Theater or Discovery HD. I would say I have about 200 hours so far...

Thanks Guys
Funs
post #3041 of 3219
I notice my set gets IR very easily.

However, it disappears relatively quickly. I used to stress about it and use the rolling bars, but now I just let it fade with different programming.
post #3042 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkimmel View Post

One of the reasons I shelled out the extra cash for my 58" B860 was for the DLNA and networking features. Reading this thread yields few comments, or suggestions. I have had great success with the PC Share software for streaming movies from my PC with the MKV container. Netflix and Hulu are workable using third party software, but I would really like to see a software upgrade from Samsung to add the Netflix widget that is now on the C series panels.

That's interesting - about 98% of the stuff I've tried to stream to my 58B860 is unplayable - either the video or audio codec is unrecognized. The same content streams flawlessly to the PS3. As far as I'm the concerned, the DLNA features are a pathetic worthless joke.
post #3043 of 3219
hey guys,i have a couple of questions about cinema smooth on the 850,i understand that you have to go into the service menu and tweak the settings making it the 860 or something like that. My questions are for people who have done this 1) is it a big noticeable difference and is it worth it 2)has anyone experienced problems with their tv after doing this and 3) how do i go about doing this and if i have a best buy 5 year warranty will it void it.
post #3044 of 3219
Apology / Caveat / Humble Begging:

I'm a plasma newbie and bought a new 860 after my 9 year old 46" Sony Rear Projection started to develop expensive-to-repair blue and red gun problems.

Crutchfield Signature has managed to deliver my new 860 a couple of days earlier than expected, and I'm only on page 60 of this extremely helpful thread. Although I'm learning fast, I'm trying to get a "jump start" and general consensus for a few questions.

I apologize in advance that I didn't finish the next 50 pages of this thread to figure out my exact answers. If someone would be so kind to PM the answers to my questions I'd appreciate it instead of cluttering up the thread even further.

Anyway,

Any advice on what my "first 100 hours" settings should be? I've read that I shouldn't have the contrast or brightness up past a certain point.

In between bouts of normal TV watching, I understand to avoid letterboxed / pillar boxed content as well as high contrast tickers or bugs for the first xxx amount of hours.

Should I be running the Plasma Break in DVD, and if so, at what brightness / contrast levels?

I'm dreading the "buzzing problem" that I've read so much about in the 860. Is this buzz tied into the physical speakers on the TV (which I don't plan on using)? Is it a problem that has been solved with later manufacturing runs? Anything I should look for on the box itself (serial number starting with xxx) so I should know to refuse delivery or send it right back?

I'll also appreciate any other advice anyone can give me with the TV, considering I'm a newbie to the plasma but not a newbie to home theater. This 860 will be my primary TV for X360, PS3, DirecTV (HD), DVDs and BDs. I intend to amateur calibrate it with consumer DVDs after burn in, and depending on my success level, get it professionally calibrated sometime in the next few months. My room is already setup with a decent 5.1 Yamaha RXV565 AVR - all input switching will be done by the AVR.

Finally, any particular "wow" settings I can setup relatively early in the burn-in process to win over the ultra-important Wife and Children demographic?

Thanks in advance.
post #3045 of 3219
I received my 850 yesterday and i'm seeing pixel shifting when i'm on the PS3 and not on the 360... Someone can explain that?
post #3046 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaribaldiSony View Post

That's interesting - about 98% of the stuff I've tried to stream to my 58B860 is unplayable - either the video or audio codec is unrecognized. The same content streams flawlessly to the PS3. As far as I'm the concerned, the DLNA features are a pathetic worthless joke.

Yea I was confused when someone was praising the DLNA feature... it's horrible... but w/ the PS3 streaming media is EXCELLENT.
post #3047 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by decker12 View Post

Apology / Caveat / Humble Begging:

I'm a plasma newbie and bought a new 860 after my 9 year old 46" Sony Rear Projection started to develop expensive-to-repair blue and red gun problems.

Crutchfield Signature has managed to deliver my new 860 a couple of days earlier than expected, and I'm only on page 60 of this extremely helpful thread. Although I'm learning fast, I'm trying to get a "jump start" and general consensus for a few questions.

I apologize in advance that I didn't finish the next 50 pages of this thread to figure out my exact answers. If someone would be so kind to PM the answers to my questions I'd appreciate it instead of cluttering up the thread even further.

Anyway,

Any advice on what my "first 100 hours" settings should be? I've read that I shouldn't have the contrast or brightness up past a certain point.

In between bouts of normal TV watching, I understand to avoid letterboxed / pillar boxed content as well as high contrast tickers or bugs for the first xxx amount of hours.

Should I be running the Plasma Break in DVD, and if so, at what brightness / contrast levels?

I'm dreading the "buzzing problem" that I've read so much about in the 860. Is this buzz tied into the physical speakers on the TV (which I don't plan on using)? Is it a problem that has been solved with later manufacturing runs? Anything I should look for on the box itself (serial number starting with xxx) so I should know to refuse delivery or send it right back?

I'll also appreciate any other advice anyone can give me with the TV, considering I'm a newbie to the plasma but not a newbie to home theater. This 860 will be my primary TV for X360, PS3, DirecTV (HD), DVDs and BDs. I intend to amateur calibrate it with consumer DVDs after burn in, and depending on my success level, get it professionally calibrated sometime in the next few months. My room is already setup with a decent 5.1 Yamaha RXV565 AVR - all input switching will be done by the AVR.

Finally, any particular "wow" settings I can setup relatively early in the burn-in process to win over the ultra-important Wife and Children demographic?

Thanks in advance.

I've had my PN58B860 for over two months and love it.

As far as buzzing, if you don't hear it or it doesn't bother you, I wouldn't worry. From the myriad of posts on plasma buzzing, I think it more often has to do with the sensitivity of the individual because some posters have stated that they can hear it while others cannot. But I believe there are the occasional clunkers that are unacceptable buzzers. That said, I probably don't know what I'm talking about

As far as settings, I got super results using something I found in the settings thread for this TV. While the results might be better with a professional calibration, I was so happy with the results, I'm not going to bother. Lets just call it igonorance is bliss. Here is a link to the message with the settings I used:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post18214486

As far as a calibration disk, I highly recommend Spears & Munsil. I do have to admit it was a little daunting to use until I went to their web site (http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/) and read in detail the explanation of all the test screens. I first used it, then found the settings in the above link and did those. I went back to Spears & Munsil to check the result to make sure things still looked good. They checked out very well.

As far as break-in, I just used the above mentioned settings, running them during the night for about 100 hours. There are those who say it doesn't matter if you use a break-in. I really don't know, but thought I do it anyway. I put the slides on a thumb drive and stuck it in one of the USB slots. I then ran it as a slide show. That way I didn't need to worry if a DVD would continue to repeat itself while unattended.
post #3048 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by decker12 View Post

Apology / Caveat / Humble Begging:

I'm a plasma newbie and bought a new 860 after my 9 year old 46" Sony Rear Projection started to develop expensive-to-repair blue and red gun problems.

Crutchfield Signature has managed to deliver my new 860 a couple of days earlier than expected, and I'm only on page 60 of this extremely helpful thread. Although I'm learning fast, I'm trying to get a "jump start" and general consensus for a few questions.

I apologize in advance that I didn't finish the next 50 pages of this thread to figure out my exact answers. If someone would be so kind to PM the answers to my questions I'd appreciate it instead of cluttering up the thread even further.

Anyway,

Any advice on what my "first 100 hours" settings should be? I've read that I shouldn't have the contrast or brightness up past a certain point.

In between bouts of normal TV watching, I understand to avoid letterboxed / pillar boxed content as well as high contrast tickers or bugs for the first xxx amount of hours.

Should I be running the Plasma Break in DVD, and if so, at what brightness / contrast levels?

I'm dreading the "buzzing problem" that I've read so much about in the 860. Is this buzz tied into the physical speakers on the TV (which I don't plan on using)? Is it a problem that has been solved with later manufacturing runs? Anything I should look for on the box itself (serial number starting with xxx) so I should know to refuse delivery or send it right back?

I'll also appreciate any other advice anyone can give me with the TV, considering I'm a newbie to the plasma but not a newbie to home theater. This 860 will be my primary TV for X360, PS3, DirecTV (HD), DVDs and BDs. I intend to amateur calibrate it with consumer DVDs after burn in, and depending on my success level, get it professionally calibrated sometime in the next few months. My room is already setup with a decent 5.1 Yamaha RXV565 AVR - all input switching will be done by the AVR.

Finally, any particular "wow" settings I can setup relatively early in the burn-in process to win over the ultra-important Wife and Children demographic?

Thanks in advance.

I love my 860...and have made a few posts here about break in....to lazy to find them for you though.
post #3049 of 3219
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Originally Posted by cmymini View Post

Does the 860 support Kuro Link?

cmymini

Did you ever get an answer on this?

I have a PN50B860 and have been trying various options with my Pioneer SC-27 receiver... from what I can tell HDMI/CEC it is partially supported... but I'm still trying to identify what functions are supported/sync'd Honestly I don't think its much but here is my list so far...

- Pioneer SC-27: Not recognised/listed by Anynet+ / "TV Power Off" - Sync'd with Receiver / both units power off
- Pioneer SC-27: "TV Control" buttons manually sync'd with Receiver but "Master Control" buttons are not synced
- Sony BDP: Recognized/listed by Anynet+ / "Power" / "Input Select" / Auto Play" sync'd with Receiver and TV

There is a lot more to decipher and I am also programing a Harmony One at the same time so that adds another level to the analysis. I briefly had "Mute" displayed on screen at one time during a Harmony One device test but somehow during an auto help/fix it disappeared never to be seen again... I would like to get some sort of OSD status for volume/mute/etc... but almost all posts say this will not/does not work with most Pioneer receivers
post #3050 of 3219
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Originally Posted by weedchill View Post

I received my 850 yesterday and i'm seeing pixel shifting when i'm on the PS3 and not on the 360... Someone can explain that?

Still no idea?
post #3051 of 3219
pixel shifting is only activated on hdmi connections i beleive,i have my 360 hooked up through component cables and when i go into the settings for pixel shifting i cant activate it,that should answer your question. Now can someone answer mines.
post #3052 of 3219
Pixel shift is turned off when the picture size is set to "Screen Fit" or whatever the "Fit" option is. If you have it set to 16:9 you will be able to use pixel shift. I am pretty sure I use it on the component input, check your settings.
post #3053 of 3219
The thing is, im always on the same input so settings never changes and im already on screen fit!

The PS3 and XBOX360 are over HDMI...

I just want to get rid of those dots (dont care if you tell me to dont lol)

I tryed lowering the brightness one by one but it gave nothing good...
post #3054 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by weedchill View Post

The thing is, im always on the same input so settings never changes and im already on screen fit!

The PS3 and XBOX360 are over HDMI...

I just want to get rid of those dots (dont care if you tell me to dont lol)

I tryed lowering the brightness one by one but it gave nothing good...

have you tried keeping your gamma at 0???
post #3055 of 3219
Hello,

My fairly new samsung pn58b860 plasma which is about a month old has spots on the tv that look "cloudy" or "dirty" from the inside of the screen. I have cleaned the screen but they are still there. I have also ran the scroll for several hours and they seem to fade and move a little but they are still there. I can especially see it during hockey games and/or when a solid color is present on the screen and only when the picture on the tv is moving in a direction. I had one replaced already because of this issue but this new one seems to have it too. Anyone know what it is and how to get rid of it? Should I just run the scroll some more until it goes away? Please help!
post #3056 of 3219
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Originally Posted by eSos5 View Post

have you tried keeping your gamma at 0???

Yup gamma is already at 0, tryed going -1 or -2 does not change anything...

As i said, its really weird... Only happens when i'm on the PS3 and when i try to shut pixel shifting off i just cant because its greyed
post #3057 of 3219
Has anyone had success playing back .mov (quicktime) files on a USB stick?
post #3058 of 3219
Have had my b860 since November and despite some buzzing which I've learned to live with it has been great. My son watches a lot of Nick junior which is all 4:3. Whenever I am around I adjust the aspect ratio settings through my FiOS dvr to fill the screen (the tv is set at 16:9). For whatever reason the aspect ratio settings on my dvr never stick (I think because I am running it through my avr). Anyway in the past I have noticed some temporary image retention with side bars (or letter boxing after watching a blu Ray) that usually went away after watching some HD content. But yesterday I saw side bars that looked like TIR and decided to run the scrolling bars to get rid of them. I ran the bars for maybe a half hour and it didn't get rid of the side bars which has me a little worried that they may be permanently burned in. I will say that they are pretty faint and you can only see them on a completely black screen (say at the beginning of a 24 episode). Even on a white screen you can't really notice them. And it's not like I ever let the tv run for very extended periods of time with the side bars....maybe a couple of hours at most.

Any thoughts? Should I run the scrolling bars for a few hours? Other solutions?

Going to be really bummed if this permanent.
post #3059 of 3219
What settings do you use? After running the scroll bars that long, you shouldn't have any IR from normal usage if your settings are not very high as with Dynamic or Standard. I would continue to run the bars or switch to the Art imagery for awhile which will vary the content continuously over the duration.
post #3060 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClarkeBar View Post

What settings do you use? After running the scroll bars that long, you shouldn't have any IR from normal usage if your settings are not very high as with Dynamic or Standard. I would continue to run the bars or switch to the Art imagery for awhile which will vary the content continuously over the duration.

I have been using the same settings more or less from day one...movie mode with contrast around 90, cell light at 10 and color mode at warm 1. Other settings are pretty standard. Didn't do a full blown break in but was pretty careful about the bars the first month or so (early on I had contrast around 75/80 and cell light at 8) and I should be well past that now. The pictures are a good idea. Will just let it run for a while.
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