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post #3091 of 3219
I have the opportunity from Samsung to exchange my PN50860 for a full refund, maybe even more than I paid last December and exchange for a new set. They are willing to trade straight across for a Samsung 3D PN50C7000. Thinking about doubling down and getting the Samsung 3D PN58C8000 or a Panasonic 3D TC-P54VT25. I am happy with the picture quality of the PN50860 except for the lockup issue that support and the repairman where unable to correct. I have only good things to say about Samsung support and the local warranty repairman. I do not want to down grade in picture quality. I would be great to go up in screen size and be ready for 3D even though there is not much content. Any thoughts from the group?
post #3092 of 3219
That is a great question...

I have been going back-and-forth between the 58" 860 (2009 model still being sold) and the new 58" 7000 or 8000.

post #3093 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezonatefreak View Post

I have the opportunity from Samsung to exchange my PN50860 for a full refund, maybe even more than I paid last December and exchange for a new set. They are willing to trade straight across for a Samsung 3D PN50C7000. Thinking about doubling down and getting the Samsung 3D PN58C8000 or a Panasonic 3D TC-P54VT25. I am happy with the picture quality of the PN50860 except for the lockup issue that support and the repairman where unable to correct. I have only good things to say about Samsung support and the local warranty repairman. I do not want to down grade in picture quality. I would be great to go up in screen size and be ready for 3D even though there is not much content. Any thoughts from the group?

Definitely double down. If you have not seen 3D on one of these new sets, I think you will be surprised at how small a set will look when in 3D mode. I looked at a 55" Samsung 3D LED and the picture looked tiny (admittedly, my current set is 58", but still...) When I go 3D I'm definitely going to think long and hard about going with a larger screen. JMO.

BTW: The Samsung LED was not that good. Fast motion caused a very noticeable and very distracting blur to the picture. Same is NOT true for the 3D plasma Panny I looked at. Very smooth motion.
post #3094 of 3219
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Originally Posted by jameskollar View Post


BTW: The Samsung LED was not that good. Fast motion caused a very noticeable and very distracting blur to the picture. Same is NOT true for the 3D plasma Panny I looked at. Very smooth motion.

So you are comparing an LED to a Plasma regarding fast motion blur?

post #3095 of 3219
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Originally Posted by Pologuy View Post

So you are comparing an LED to a Plasma regarding fast motion blur?


Yes. Plasma IMO is much better at reducing/eliminating fast motion blur. In full disclosure, I am a Samsung fanboy. I looked at a Samsung 3D LED model and was expecting to be blown away. I was not. I then looked at a Panasonic Plasma 3D and there is no way after seeing the Panny I would have gone with the Sammy. I tried to figure out what caused such a difference for me and really the biggest one I could figure out was the fast motion blur on the Sammy. The picture on the Panny just seemed to have much more "snap" for me.

You will find fanboys/fangirls on both sides of this issue but 3D, again MO, is a game changer in favor of plasma. I don't have a lot of experience in comparing the two, but the hour or so I spent looking at 3D sets brought me to this conclusion. YMMV and to anyone that has a 3D set, be it plasma or LED, I am jealous.

That said, do not take my word for it. Look for yourself. I'm not ready to invest in 3d at this time but when I am, you can bet I will be taking a hard look at all technologies available at that time. For now though, plasma wins...
post #3096 of 3219
I think you missed my point

Plasma has always been better with fast motion blur than LED.

So comparing a 3D LED to a 3D Plasma is not a fair comparison.

post #3097 of 3219
I downloaded the 1018 firmware yesterday. Anyone have any insight on the release notes or improvements?
post #3098 of 3219
I downloaded it yesterday and was wondering the same thing. I was hoping the previous upgrade (1017) would address the cinema smooth elevated black level issue but it didn't. That is my biggest issue with this set. I haven't enabled the 24p setting to try it out yet because if it raises the black level it takes awhile for it to 'settle' back to the lower setting again after disabling the cs 24p.
post #3099 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkimmel View Post

I downloaded the 1018 firmware yesterday. Anyone have any insight on the release notes or improvements?

Here is what the representative at Samsung told me about this update on chat:

Victoria Y: The firmware will support strange resolution or codec.

Victoria Y: The firmware will increase the performance of the Media play.

Victoria Y: The firmware will also prevent the message "Not supported mode" and also for the resolutions like 1080i, 1080p, it will prevent picture flickering and also increase the performance of the sound.
post #3100 of 3219
This thread has slown down much in the past few weeks....

Looks like most of us are very happy with our TVs!!!
post #3101 of 3219
anyone having problems with the set (860) changing inputs for no reason. it just started a couple of weeks ago; coincidentally it started after the firmware update. don't know if it's related or not. I've had the set for about 18 months with no issues. It changes the input to the TV input but my reciever remains on the correct input. I'm using a Harmony 1 to control all components and I've checked it online.

Thanks,
post #3102 of 3219
Hello gang,

I purchased a 58" B860 from Frys as a demo model. So far, so good. However, not sure if the TV is in Demo mode or not. I find the manual to be non-descript as to how to return to home viewing mode. I pressed the volume and when OSD shows, pressed menu for 5 seconds. Then the terms Standard and Demo toggel back and forth each time I carry out this set of operations. Standard appears near the top of the screen one time and Demo appears toward the bottom the other time. Is Standard equivalent to Home View?

I have not come accross yet how to reset the TV back to manufature default so that I can set everything up myself rather than going off of what frys did. Any insights?

Thanks, Garth
post #3103 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by gakaudio View Post

Hello gang,

I purchased a 58" B860 from Frys as a demo model. So far, so good. However, not sure if the TV is in Demo mode or not. I find the manual to be non-descript as to how to return to home viewing mode. I pressed the volume and when OSD shows, pressed menu for 5 seconds. Then the terms Standard and Demo toggel back and forth each time I carry out this set of operations. Standard appears near the top of the screen one time and Demo appears toward the bottom the other time. Is Standard equivalent to Home View?

I have not come accross yet how to reset the TV back to manufature default so that I can set everything up myself rather than going off of what frys did. Any insights?

Thanks, Garth

You can do a factory reset in the service menu but be very very careful.
post #3104 of 3219
Hello All,

I have a PN50B860 (bought Feb 2010) - no issues with anything so far but I recently observed that the black levels on this TV are no way near black.(actually they appear quite grayish-black) The blacks appear very dull and they do even more so when I am watching some 16:9 format material on this TV in a dark room - the black bars top and bottom appear quite washed out) Normally I would not have noticed this at all but of late the blacks seem to appear so dull that they make me wonder if I am watching a good plasma at all) To be frank I never paid the blacks much attention but I know that these grayish-blacks do not belong to a plasma TV which excels in other Departments like contrast,color etc)

I just wanted to know if you any of you have the same issue (if it is a problem).

P.S >
I have the latest firmware and I even tried tweaking the black levels using the ps3 HDMI black level settings but even this did not help


o Picture Mode : Movie
o Cell Light : 10
o Contrast :90
o Brightness : 45
o Sharpness : 0
o Color : 45
o Tint : default
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Off
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Auto
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : on
o xvYCC : on
Picture Options
o Color Tone : normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital NR : Off
o HDMI Black Level : Low
o 1080 Full HD Motion Demo: Off
o Film Mode : Auto 1 (Cinema Smooth for 1080P/24)
o Blue Only Mode : Off
post #3105 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rajauknow View Post

Hello All,

I have a PN50B860 (bought Feb 2010) - no issues with anything so far but I recently observed that the black levels on this TV are no way near black.(actually they appear quite grayish-black) The blacks appear very dull and they do even more so when I am watching some 16:9 format material on this TV in a dark room - the black bars top and bottom appear quite washed out) Normally I would not have noticed this at all but of late the blacks seem to appear so dull that they make me wonder if I am watching a good plasma at all) To be frank I never paid the blacks much attention but I know that these grayish-blacks do not belong to a plasma TV which excels in other Departments like contrast,color etc)

I just wanted to know if you any of you have the same issue (if it is a problem).

P.S >
I have the latest firmware and I even tried tweaking the black levels using the ps3 HDMI black level settings but even this did not help


o Picture Mode : Movie
o Cell Light : 10
o Contrast :90
o Brightness : 45
o Sharpness : 0
o Color : 45
o Tint : default
Advanced Settings
o Black Tone : Off
o Dynamic Contrast : Off
o Gamma : 0
o Color Space : Auto
o White Balance : Factory Default
o Fleshtone : 0
o Edge Enhancement : on
o xvYCC : on
Picture Options
o Color Tone : normal
o Size : 16:9
o Digital NR : Off
o HDMI Black Level : Low
o 1080 Full HD Motion Demo: Off
o Film Mode : Auto 1 (Cinema Smooth for 1080P/24)
o Blue Only Mode : Off

Not an issue for me. Is it your source? Does it appear washed out if you are using the TV widgets as a source (a good way to test). If that passes, then you have a problem with you source.

That said, I noticed a couple of things. Turning edge enhancement off may help. It's not needed anyway and only distorts the picture IMO. Second, try turning xvYCC off. It's for an expanded colorspace that if detected will be used instead of the standard colorspace. Not many sources (player + material) use the expanded colorspace so this will probably have no effect but it's how I have my set and my black levels are fine. You do';t mention if you are seeing this is when you are using CinemaSmooth only. That setting, when in 24P mode can cause washed out blacks. Try turning that off.

As a BTW using 16:9 while it seems intuitively correct is not the best setting. You're giving up several pixels to overscan. In other words, a HD picture in 1080i/p or 720P will be at ~1918 by 1078 upconverted to 1920 by 1080. Set the screen size to Screen Fit and you'll bypass this upconversion. Search this thread for a further discussion of this.
post #3106 of 3219
Using cinema smooth for blurays doesn't help. Turn film mode off for blurays.
post #3107 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rencan View Post

anyone having problems with the set (860) changing inputs for no reason. it just started a couple of weeks ago; coincidentally it started after the firmware update. don't know if it's related or not. I've had the set for about 18 months with no issues. It changes the input to the TV input but my reciever remains on the correct input. I'm using a Harmony 1 to control all components and I've checked it online.

Thanks,


This just happened to me today. I had to unplug and plug the television back in to get it to stop.
post #3108 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rencan View Post

anyone having problems with the set (860) changing inputs for no reason. it just started a couple of weeks ago; coincidentally it started after the firmware update. don't know if it's related or not. I've had the set for about 18 months with no issues. It changes the input to the TV input but my reciever remains on the correct input. I'm using a Harmony 1 to control all components and I've checked it online.

Thanks,

Quote:
Originally Posted by scuda View Post

This just happened to me today. I had to unplug and plug the television back in to get it to stop.

I have had the same issue for about 2 weeks now. It happened 3 times, including twice this last weekend. I don't recall installing a new firmware recently. Twice, it also switched the store mode on and I had to go to the Service menu to turn it off (could not do it with the instructions in the manual using the remote). I have had the set since June 2009, so 15 months ago and I do also use the Harmony One remote but don't think this would be related since I am not doing anything when this happens.

I was simply watching a program on the DVR yesterday and, twice, it switched output to the TV tuner while I was watching. I had to unplug and re-plug it to fix the issue. Note that the red light in the front of the TV was blinking erratically when this happened as it was receiving some command.

Otherwise, I love my PN58B860 and I'm very happy i bought it. If anyone has a clue into what causes this, please let us know. Thanks!
post #3109 of 3219
The motherboard was replaced two weeks ago and so far no other issues and changing of inputs stopped.
I also use the Harmony One remote and checked that out before i had the motherboard changed out. By the way i lost my calibration after the motherboard was replaced so beware.
post #3110 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfbrown94 View Post

Using cinema smooth for blurays doesn't help. Turn film mode off for blurays.

Thanks for the suggestion....I did that and things seem to have improved on the motion processing end but I think the blacks still seem kinda grey-ish
post #3111 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameskollar View Post

Not an issue for me. Is it your source? Does it appear washed out if you are using the TV widgets as a source (a good way to test). If that passes, then you have a problem with you source.

That said, I noticed a couple of things. Turning edge enhancement off may help. It's not needed anyway and only distorts the picture IMO. Second, try turning xvYCC off. It's for an expanded colorspace that if detected will be used instead of the standard colorspace. Not many sources (player + material) use the expanded colorspace so this will probably have no effect but it's how I have my set and my black levels are fine. You do';t mention if you are seeing this is when you are using CinemaSmooth only. That setting, when in 24P mode can cause washed out blacks. Try turning that off.

As a BTW using 16:9 while it seems intuitively correct is not the best setting. You're giving up several pixels to overscan. In other words, a HD picture in 1080i/p or 720P will be at ~1918 by 1078 upconverted to 1920 by 1080. Set the screen size to Screen Fit and you'll bypass this upconversion. Search this thread for a further discussion of this.

Thanks for the info...I did turn off the xvYCC and the CinemaSmooth however the blacks still seem kinda dull (actually a bit on the grey end). As you mentioned I loaded some pictures that are included in the media gallery of PN50B860 and they seem quite good (with good blacks). However when I play some DVDs and blu-rays using my ps3 the blacks seem to be turning out grey-ish.

I played around with a couple of settings like HDMI color space, RGB range, etc on both my xbox 360 and ps3 (both HDMI) but to no avail. It would be great if someone could share the VIDEO and DISPLAY settings that you use on your ps3...perhaps I can try them on my ps3 and see if they make a difference
post #3112 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rajauknow View Post

Thanks for the info...I did turn off the xvYCC and the CinemaSmooth however the blacks still seem kinda dull (actually a bit on the grey end). As you mentioned I loaded some pictures that are included in the media gallery of PN50B860 and they seem quite good (with good blacks). However when I play some DVDs and blu-rays using my ps3 the blacks seem to be turning out grey-ish.

I played around with a couple of settings like HDMI color space, RGB range, etc on both my xbox 360 and ps3 (both HDMI) but to no avail. It would be great if someone could share the VIDEO and DISPLAY settings that you use on your ps3...perhaps I can try them on my ps3 and see if they make a difference

Settings for PS3 are pretty straight forward in the display settings: Limited(not full) Super White on & YCbCr(not RGB). I have everthing in the Video settings of the PS3 set to Automatic or Normal for video scaling. The blacks on this tv or not that great(compared to my Panasonic th46pz85u in my bedroom, but everything else is excellent(well except non-linear gamma). Anyhow, when I view video content through my PS3, the black bars on this tv is very black. The video itself is not quite black, but good enough. The bars should be black as long as you have them set-up in the tv settings for them to be black.

TV settings can range anywhere from
Cell Light (7-10) Someone said this must be set at 10, but I've seen no hard evidence on that & I think that carries over from earlir models with issues with this setting-so set it at whatever produces the desired viewing experience.
Contrast (88-100)
Brightness (49-55) I found anything above 50 with gamma at 0 produces noise.(blue, red, & green dancing dots).
color (auto-custom)
Tint (+2 or -2 either way)
Color Tone (Warm 2)
Gama (0 for shadow detail, 1 for extremely dark video or bright rooms)
Film Mode (auto 1 for film & auto 2 for optimizing tickers at the bottom of the screen)
All enhancements off.

If you are somewhere in this ballpark & still are getting washed out blacks, something is wrong somewhere. Hope this helps. Good luck.
post #3113 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkimmel View Post

I downloaded the 1018 firmware yesterday. Anyone have any insight on the release notes or improvements?

Quote:
Originally Posted by huskerdu1 View Post

Here is what the representative at Samsung told me about this update on chat:

Victoria Y: The firmware will support strange resolution or codec.

Victoria Y: The firmware will increase the performance of the Media play.

Victoria Y: The firmware will also prevent the message "Not supported mode" and also for the resolutions like 1080i, 1080p, it will prevent picture flickering and also increase the performance of the sound.


Anyone know if the firmware update will retain all your picture settings? I had my TV calibrated and would rather not have to go through and update all the settings again.
post #3114 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfbrown94 View Post

Using cinema smooth for blurays doesn't help. Turn film mode off for blurays.

Works fine for me...with the proper calibrated settings, this mode does the job.
post #3115 of 3219
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob67 View Post

Works fine for me...with the proper calibrated settings, this mode does the job.

Yep, I agree. I believe it was firmware 1017 that addressed the CS prob. You can easily see the improvement and the reason for CS in rolling credits.

As far as calibrated settings and doing a fw update, go for it. My set is calibrated and the settings "stick" through a fw upgrade. I also took pics of both my calibrated and user settings so I have a permanent record. Be aware that even entering the SM will reset the user settings.
post #3116 of 3219
To preface this review - I'm a VERY long-time AVS browser, but a first-time poster. Considering the wealth of knowledge I’ve obtained by reading through the countless threads contained within this forum I felt somewhat of an obligation to post a review of my new 860. Generally it's overwhelming for mostly anyone to look at a four year-old 3-digit page count next to the thread of your interest knowing that you have to start from pg 1, but it's something we as A/V junkies (ehh sorry - enthusiasts) do all the time and if in the end your gear gives you the expected enjoyment I think we would all agree that this experience is well worth it. On to the review...

I’m an owner of a 4+ year old 8th-gen 50" Kuro which has served me very well over the years. However, when it came time to build my dedicated HT room (18x18), I needed something newer, preferably larger and (arguably) more impressive in terms of picture quality/aesthetics. I briefly considered going the projector system route, but realized that I just didn't have the space or configuration to get it done right, so I decided to go with Plasma over a comparable-sized LCD/LED instead. I won't go into the reasons why I chose Plasma - that topic has been discussed here and in other forums “ad nauseam” - this is just my personal preference. After much deliberation, measurement and re-measurement regarding the TV size I thought a 58" screen would fit the dimensions of my room very well (considering a viewing distance of ~8') without being overbearing (aesthetic balance of all HT components within the set room décor was important to me and my wife). I briefly considered a 63" screen, but that would've swallowed up the wall on which the TV would be mounted, so I went with a 58”. I know, I know – bigger is always better – but I can tell you (with some trepidation) that in this case a 63 incher would not have looked “at home” on my wall. With Pioneer exiting the plasma market a couple of years back, this left me with really only 3 viable options (in no particular order) - Panasonic, Samsung or LG. Again, I won't go into specifics with regard to how I made my decision between these, but here are the key attributes I was looking for:
- No 3-D (not interested)
- Balance between good picture and solid black level (Kuro-like)
- Aesthetic appearance (as a TV this size hung on a wall would by default become the center-piece of any room)
Since 3-D wasn't a priority and most TV manufacturers were coming out with 3-D offerings for their top-line 2010 models, the “old” 2-D models could be had at a significant discount. After much research (5+ mos), I narrowed down my preferences to PN58B860 and TCP58V10. From what I’ve been able to gather, the consensus online seems to be that the Samsung has a more vibrant picture with a slightly higher black level over the Panasonic. But Panasonic’s ’09 (and as yet undocumented ’10) black level issues along with the Samsung’s form factor skewed my decision toward the 860. After some time (and a lot of patience) I was able to procure quite a fetching deal on Frys.com and my new 860 finally arrived about a month ago. Now on to the good stuff…

Here are my impressions so far… First, as I’m sure many of you who are still reading this are wondering – what about the infamous buzz? It’s important to note that I’ve known of and experienced the buzzing associated with the operation of electronic components with most (if not all of) my electronic devices. However, none of these (including my now sold original Xbox 360) have ever exhibited operational noise so unbearable that it distracted my attention or startled me out of enjoying whatever I was doing… This noise would simply be unacceptable considering the sophisticated QA processes available with today’s CE products. My 860 does indeed have a humming sound. Note that I don’t call it a “buzzing” because I feel that it’s more accurately described as a “humming”. This sound can be heard at absolute silence and if you go so far as to put your ear to the exact spot on the front (just below center) or the back of the TV (upper left corner). Some of you may read this and immediately draw the conclusion that here’s another example of a buzzer, which goes to demonstrate that Samsung’s top-line model of 2009 is defective. You would of course be mistaken. As some witty/sarcastic folks have mentioned on this forum – holding your face 1" from the TV panel or with your ear to the back is not the way most people choose to watch television… As a side note – I never would’ve listened for or heard this noise had I not read about the “buzzing” experiences described here in the first place - so this forum does have it's draw backs (wink wink). The buzz, whine, purr, or whatever you want to refer to it is absolutely normal (at least on my panel) and is not at all distinguishable over the ambient sounds of my home. The noise of my PS3 fan is certainly MUCH louder and it’s behind a cabinet door (properly ventilated of course). The hum from my 5-year old JBL subwoofer can be heard over this TV. Oh and my dog’s snoring definitely drowns out all of the above combined (he’s only 6 months and snores like an 80-year old man). Most importantly – I can’t hear the buzzing from my viewing location (8’ away). So to answer the buzzing poll – yes, there is a hum/buzz but I’m not concerned about it and it doesn’t bother me. I’d like to point out that I’m not dismissing/discounting the excessive buzzing experienced and noted by others on this forum; I’m simply describing my own personal experience, so as with all things – YMMV.

The picture on this set can be described in two words – ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL (even out of the box)! The colors are vibrant, the blacks are black and the overall perception when viewing content is – “just look at this picture!” That’s the comment I heard from my wife, friends, parents and neighbors. I’m very happy with the TV and that’s before I made any adjustments to the Movie or Standard settings (it’s a given that the Dynamic setting is never to be used, for obvious reasons). Being the worry-wort that I am, I decided to go with a subdued picture setting for break-in purposes (just for the initial 100-200 hrs). I modified the Standard mode as my default break-in setting with lowered Cell, Contrast and Brightness levels; the Movie mode was adjusted with the CNET pic settings and will be my after-break-in-period settings.

After updating to the latest FW (I’m assuming it’s 1018, because that was the only available option), I popped in the Avatar Blu-ray to enjoy the 1080p/24 goodness… I switched between the modified Standard and Movie settings while the movie was playing to see what my normal viewing experience will be like after the break-in period… Again, I’m pleased to report that the picture is absolutely stunning! I won’t be having this set professionally calibrated. I realize that each set and viewing environment is different and I’m sure a professional calibration would improve the image and is worthwhile to some, but given all the available settings from numerous sources here and other places online I can’t justify the $300-400 calibration fee. I’m happy with the CNET settings (thanks Katzmaier!). After all, I'm the end user for my own set, so it’s all about how good it looks to me (and my wife of course).

One of the best features of this set is how thin it is… Definitely the leanest plasma I’ve ever seen. I thought it was thin at the local Best Buy where I first saw it about a year ago, but you really don’t get the full effect until you bring it home and see it in your own environment. This is further amplified with a Sanus LL-22 Low Profile wall mount (sorry for the Sanus promotion here, but this wall mount is really that great). Even with the power off, this TV is stunning just hanging on a wall (I installed a pair of Datacomm Power Solution outlets to run the wires in-wall up to code).

I have the 860 hooked up to an Elite SC-25 via HDMI, so I can’t comment on the native speakers that many here are not happy with (I simply turned off the TV speaker via the main menu option). The one worry moment did come when I turned on the TV for the first time to do the FW update and noticed how quickly the IR set in. There have been many comments here regarding the IR propensity of this set and along with the buzzing these were the two things I obsessed the most over during my 5+ month research. I’ve never witnessed the slightest inkling of IR on my Kuro, so this was definitely a concern from the start with the 860. I immediately dialed down the Contrast to under 50 (which is in turn made the picture look awful), but after a successful 1018 FW update I have yet to see any noticeable IR since (crossing toes as I write this, can’t cross fingers or I couldn’t type). I dialed up (slightly) my break-in Contrast to 58, with Cell 7 and Brightness 48. I read somewhere to set the Contrast at 50 or below to avoid the early IR issues, but I find that anything under a 58 results in a far too dim a picture for my taste. While I want to break-in the set for my own peace of mind going forward, I don’t want it to be at a noticeably measurable expense to the viewing experience. I’m sure some of you will disagree, but that’s my give-and-take on the break-in situation.

In closing, I would recommend this TV to anyone looking to buy a plasma, who’s not interested in 3-D. These can be had today (assuming you can find one) for less than half of what they originally retailed for back in April of 2009. An outstanding deal for sure. Again, I don’t claim that the buzzing is not at all an issue – but it’s not an issue for me (crossing my toes…)

Gear:
Samsung PN58B860
Pioneer Elite SC-25
TiVo Series3
Belkin PureAV Hybrid AVU1500 UPS w/PureFilter Technology
Sony PS3
Harmony 1100
(1) Mirage UNI-THEATRE L/C/R Speaker
(2) Mirage Prestige Black Satellites
JBL L8400P sub
post #3117 of 3219
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Originally Posted by Ghis_acr View Post

I just came back from a one week trip. I turn on my TV and I see a couple of red dots (pixels) randomly showing up and disappearing. they are generally spread around the upper edge and the upper right section of the TV. It last for about one or two minutes then the number of "crazy dots" is gradually decreasing until everything is back to normal.

It seem to occur mainly when I switch to my PS3. Most of the erratic pixels are red but blue and green one also appears. It also seem to stick to an image so if you have for example a white box when it will disappear the erratic pixels will appear where the white box was so you can still see the white box was there (lightly similar to IR but with mainly red dancing dot forming the new image vs white allow for IR).

I did some research on the internet and found a picture describing this effect. It seem to be call "Image Sticking Mal-Discharge". Anyone ever encountered this? I have not called Samsung yet but will do shortly as I don't think this is normal. My TV is only few months old.

Dude, I've been having EXACTLY the same issue! Red dots (or red sparkles) in the upper right hand corner of my set. Lasts for a 30 seconds and then goes away. I usually see this when I just power on my set and I'm on my HTPC or Xbox 360 (or when there is just a black screen). Been noticing it for about 2 months now and it appears to be getting worse. The worst example of the red dots is when I'm on my xbox 360 dashboard (for say 3 minutes) and loading a game. When the game is loading the red dots replicate the shape of the dashboard background, especially whatever was in the right upper corner.

Has anyone else had this issue? Do we need to call Samsung to have a tech come out and look at it? I'm hoping this isn't a defect, cause I just love this set and would be pissed if I got stuck with a lemon (it's barely 6 months old).
post #3118 of 3219
I've been reading around the forum and it looks like this may very well be the Mal Discharge Ghis_acr mentioned. Not happy about that at all...
post #3119 of 3219
If I leave an image on the screen for too long, I get the red sparkles where that image was, like a logo on a tv station or videogame. Anyway, I'm tired of the image retention on this set, so I've purchased an LH90 and I'm receiving it today. If it wasn't for the image retention and sub par black levels, I would have kept this tv.
post #3120 of 3219
I have this display that comes up on my tv intermittently. It just started, and I don't know how to get rid of it. Please help!

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