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RS2 and Da-lite Pearlescent

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I am trying to match a screen to my RS2 and would appreciate any help.
My screen is going to be 9 feet wide 2.35 CinemaScope (buy without a panamorph lens). I am going to sit 13-14 feet away from screen. Projector is going to be shelf mounted above the seating area. Room is all dark with black walls and ceilings and dark floor (but not black). I am going to watch only movies on the projector.

My questions:
1. I am thinking to use either Da-lite cinema vision or Da-lite Pearlescent. Which one is a better choice (considering gain and performance).

2. Is it realistic to project 9 feet wide image with that projector considering that bulb dims over time?

3. Is my sitting area too close to the screen considering its size (or in other wards, is my screen too big for my sitting distance)?

Thanks for any help
post #2 of 12
I'll give you my opinion:

1. Between the 2, go with the Cinema Vision. Though the Pearlescent is higher gain (slightly), it also has more texture/sheen which in my opinion is too distracting.
2. You should be okay. That is an average size for 2.35:1. Assuming a fresh lamp, here is what you would expect:
9' wide 2.35:1 = 46"x108" VA
No anamorphic lens = ~25% less light output, or about 450 lumens (again, fresh lamp)
46"x108" = 34.5'
450 lumens / 34.5' = ~13 footlamberts, x 1.3 gain = ~17 footlamberts

Though this is about where most want to be, it doesn't leave you a lot of room so you may find you have to replace the lamp more frequently.

3. Not too big at all for 13-14'...
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answer.
Is there any other screen from Da-Lite you would rather use with the rs2 instead of the cinema vision?

When people say the RS2 has 600 lumens they mean it has this number of lumens on the short throw or the long throw ?

Thanks for any help.
post #4 of 12
Backwords...the RS2 max output (short throw, high lamp, new lamp, etc...) is about 600-650). In other words, best possible mode.

If you are shelf mounting it, many would say the Hi Power is a viable option....
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Jason Turk View Post

Backwords...the RS2 max output (short throw, high lamp, new lamp, etc...) is about 600-650). In other words, best possible mode.

If you are shelf mounting it, many would say the Hi Power is a viable option....

And I am one of them. I use the HP with my new RS10 that I received from Jason a couple of weeks ago. (Thanks, Jason!) The combination is stunning.

You don't say what your throw is, but if the PJ is behind your seating, I'm guessing it's around 15 feet. I believe that would put you at mid throw, which would reduce your brightness by about 3 fL, compared to the shortest throw. You could use the gain of the HP. Not only would it give you more brightness, but you probably could run your lamp in normal mode for better lamp life and lower fan noise. While the HP does have a more narrow sweet spot than lower gain screens, it will provide superior across-screen brightness uniformity, which is important for 'scope movies.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answers.
Projector is going to be placed above my head and i am intending to use the shortest throw. I was heading towards the Pearlescent or the cinemavision but since nobody here seems to like the Pearlescent and the gain on the cinemavision seems to be too low for my screen size i am looking for alternatives. Everybody seems to like the high power with the rs2. My question is can i fold the high power screen material so it will fit into a suitcase (I don't live in the US and i can't find it in my country so i will need to carry it back with me)?
post #7 of 12
FWIW, I got samples of the Pearlescent and HP screen. I got an Elitescreen Cinewhite 1.1 100" just a while ago and I wish I had gone with the DaLite HP screen. I noticed the texture on the Pearlescent as well. I have an RS2 clone(Pioneer FPJ1) and I'm considering getting a 119" HP screen as well for my setup.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by benthan View Post

My question is can i fold the high power screen material so it will fit into a suitcase (I don't live in the US and i can't find it in my country so i will need to carry it back with me)?

I wouldn't think it would survive completely intact after folding it up and stuffing it into a suitcase. I don't know what maximum length the airlines will allow as checked baggage, but if you are allowed to check the screen and housing as baggage, that would certainly be preferred--even if you have to pay extra to do it.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all of you.
I am buying only the screen surface for a custom made frame. In the past I took with me in the suitcace the high contrast cinema vision and it was no problem and the material arrived to my place in a perfect condition. I understand the high power is fiberglass backed (unlike the HCCV which is made of a flexible vinyl). Does it make a difference?
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by benthan View Post

I understand the high power is fiberglass backed (unlike the HCCV which is made of a flexible vinyl). Does it make a difference?

I suggest that you go online at http://www.da-lite.com/ and use their live chat to ask them about this.
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi again,
thanks for all your help. It is much apreciated here.
I spoke with the store and they are willing to ship it to my country for a fair price so I decided to go with the da-lite high power screen.
I have few questions:
1. How large I can go with the high power assuming it is placed on the optimal place or slightly above it (ignoring the fact that i am going to project from only 14 feet away. I am moving to a larger place in about 8 months and would like the screen to serve me at the new place as well). Can I go 12 or 13 feet wide (i am going to project 1:2.35 cinemascop but without an anamorph lens?
2.assuming i place the projector in the right place what am i loosing by going high power (black level, color accuracy, etc.).
thanks for your help.
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by benthan View Post

Hi again,
thanks for all your help. It is much apreciated here.
I spoke with the store and they are willing to ship it to my country for a fair price so I decided to go with the da-lite high power screen.
I have few questions:
1. How large I can go with the high power assuming it is placed on the optimal place or slightly above it (ignoring the fact that i am going to project from only 14 feet away. I am moving to a larger place in about 8 months and would like the screen to serve me at the new place as well). Can I go 12 or 13 feet wide (i am going to project 1:2.35 cinemascop but without an anamorph lens?
2.assuming i place the projector in the right place what am i loosing by going high power (black level, color accuracy, etc.).
thanks for your help.

Personally, I would not go over 10 feet wide (130" diagonal) due to brightness considerations with the RS2. In your bat cave you might get away with a larger screen, but it may look somewhat dim after the lamp ages a bit. Even with the HP you should not count on a gain of more than 2.0 to 2.3 in a practical installation. (To get the much touted 2.8 either your head would be blocking the PJ or the PJ would be blocking your view of the screen!)

I think the only thing one loses with the HP is the ability to maintain a constant brightness level at all viewing angles--you need to be within about 15 degrees of on-axis to see the brightest picture. It still looks OK at angles greater than that, just dimmer. Colors, brightness uniformity, and black level should all be excellent.
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