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InFocus IN72 projector with vertical bands

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've got an InFocus IN72 DLP projector. Had it for just over two years now so it's definitely out of warranty. It's been working fine until this past weekend. It is a ceiling-mount unit and I took it down to let a friend borrow it. (Yes, it is someone who would take care of it so don't even ask ).

Anyway, when he hooked it up he said it had 3 or 4 vertical bars on the right-hand side of the screen. If you move the projector at all, then one (or some) of the bars will go away. I got it back from him and put it on my ceiling mount. Sure enough it was doing the same thing for me. The picture is there...it just has these black vertical bars that span from one side to almost the middle of the screen.

I called InFocus and described the problem. The guy was pretty nice and told me it sounds like a "banding" issue. He quoted me $379 for repair plus $30 for shipping. I think I only paid $399 for it when I got it. I found this thread where everyone says it's basically garbage.

But I also found this link that says banding doesn't happen to DLP projectors.

Can anyone help shed some light on this for me? It only has around 260 hours on the lamp. I tried searching for information on banding, but I didn't find very much that was helpful.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 15
Do you see these lines on the InFocus splash screen? If not it just sounds like a bad cable...
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yes, I see them on the splash screen. I wish it were a bad cable, but I'm thinking that some came loose internally from moving it.
post #4 of 15
I saw this same thing on a DLP with a main board failure but I'm not sure if there's anything else that could cause it...
post #5 of 15
Small world. I'm the friend who borrowed the projector and have been searching the net for any help/idea as to what it could be and found this thread. I feel horrible that my friend lent me his projector for a lan party and this happens. If it is the mainboard are their any places that sell replacement parts besides infocus?
post #6 of 15
If it is a main board failure you'll want to purchase a new projector. It'll be several hundred dollars. I would send a PM to Sheridan 1952 to get his take on what he thinks would cause this.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

If it is a main board failure you'll want to purchase a new projector. It'll be several hundred dollars. I would send a PM to Sheridan 1952 to get his take on what he thinks would cause this.

Jester805 let me know if your going to send Sheridan 1952 a PM or if you want me to. Thanks TF Ghost for the advice.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Sorry for the delayed response. I just sent Sheridan a PM so I'll wait to see what he says.

Also an update to the issue...
Not sure what is common of the "banding," but I noticed that it looks like light is NOT shining through when it SHOULD and it IS shining through when it SHOULDN'T. Not sure if that makes sense.

Thanks again
post #9 of 15
Is it something like this? though your post says you have 4 bars.

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
It's kind of similar, but the bars are black. When I press the power button to shut it off, those black bars then turn white because light is passing through them. The rest of the screen is black because light is not passing through. It's pretty weird.
post #11 of 15
That picture 2 posts above looks more like a problem with the image processor. Not a good sign.

Jester805, your problem sounds like bad solder points on the connector mating the main board to the optical engine. The fact that the problem changes when the projector is moved would confirm it for me. I've seen it happen on some other Infocus models, the X1 and X2.

It is repairable, but here is the tricky part. This is SMD work, or Surface Mounted Devices. The connections are on the surface and those are very tiny points grouped real close together. You would need a very tiny point on your soldering iron, a very steady hand (and for me, with my bad eyes, a lot of magnification) and use of solder very sparingly. The two real dangers are using too much heat resulting in lifting the pads and using too much solder and bridging one or more points.

What I would do is remove the top cover and while it is running, use a wood dowel to gently flex the main board in the area directly behind the optical engine. If doing that results in changes, then my suspicions are confirmed.

BTW, for what its worth, its very doubtful that your friend did anything to cause this. It's an unhappy coincidence that it manifested while he had it.

Good luck.
post #12 of 15
I received an non working IN72 from a friend, I thought it might be the 1a fuse problem, so I took it apart but it wasn't. PM if you think you could use some of the parts, willing to let go for not much more than shipping.
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewke View Post

I received an non working IN72 from a friend, I thought it might be the 1a fuse problem, so I took it apart but it wasn't. PM if you think you could use some of the parts, willing to let go for not much more than shipping.

Thanks, I appreciate it! I'm just going to sell "as is" on the auction site.

Here is a picture of the problem in case this triggers something with anyone.

Thanks again everyone!
LL
post #14 of 15
My projector, an X10, looked EXACTLY like "anirbana"'s picture.

It started doing this about six months ago or so, but it would only happen once in a while, so I wasn't too concerned about it. The frequency increased to the point that I would experience the issue as often as once every 10 minutes. After reading some of the posts here and at a few other sites, I decided it was time to junk this thing and buy another (non-Infocus) projector.

However, at least so far, it seems I've fixed it.

I am by no means any sort of professional electronics repairman. I cannot, with any degree of certainty, say that what I've done will fix yours. I was at the point of throwing the thing out the window and buying a new one, so I figured that if I took the thing apart and it didn't work at all after I put it back together, I had lost nothing. Proceed with caution, as you're probably voiding your warranty doing this (but, again, in my case, I really didn't care).

And also, remember that my projector is an X10. If yours is a different model, these instructions may or may not pertain to you. Naturally, proceed at your own risk.

I wish I had taken pictures of everything as I had done it to show in this DIY-guide, but I really didn't think I'd accomplish anything by attempting this in the first place!

I started by opening up the projector by removing about 10 screws from the bottom. Two of them aren't so obvious - one was underneath one of the rubber "feet", and the other was near the inputs.

One side of the projector is a black plastic air duct. Three or four screws hold this in place. It had two fine mesh screens on it that act as air filters. Mine weren't too dirty, but I popped them off and vacuumed them clean. This, obviously, would increase cooling air flow - never a bad idea. This *could* have been what fixed mine, but I think what I did in the next paragraph is what really fixed it. I don't think I had an overheating issue, as I've seen this problem on my projector after it was on for only two minutes.

The projector's mainboard is covered by a sizable silver metal cover. It's held in place by about twenty screws, two of them also anchoring down grounding wires to a smaller board that contains the projector's LED status lights. This smaller board connects to the mainboard by a small, ribbon-like cable that goes through the mainboard's metal cover. It's also flanked on either side by two wires that attach to the IR sensors. Remove these two wires and the ribbon by gently pulling them out. After the cover is removed, look in the area of the lamp. I had a thin, white wire near it that went between the mainboard and the lamp or something nearby. This wire was taped out of the way of some sort of spinning wheel (see, I told you I'm no repairman). The tape looked like black electrical tape, but didn't have the "rubberiness" of electrical tape and felt more like cellophane tape. This tape was right on top of an IC labeled "DLP". I removed the tape from the top of the IC and relocated it to a better place (i.e., NOT on the mainboard).

After putting it all back together (and, surprisingly, not having a single screw left over) and hanging it from the ceiling again, it worked without fail for 5.5 hours straight.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
djbarcode, thanks for the detailed reply!

I wish I still had mine so that I could try this out. I sold it on eBay and (at least) got a little something for it.
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