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post #1621 of 2286
3/4/10 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by CSonntag View Post

Hi Will!
So, XBR2 folks got the option of a Z5100? Unfortunately, us XBR1 folks (the true early adopters, LOL) are only getting a choice of a free 46VE5 or a 2010 55EX500 for $225.
Best,
Chris

As I thought further about your query, I had a major epiphany...How flipping dumb am I for buying a TV, for nearly 4K, I might add, that I KNEW had the same technology as the 1 series???

Oh sure, they added another fan, made it so you could actually input 1080p to the set and a couple of other doo-dads. But DAMNIT....I knew all about the 'green blobs', the 'yellow stains' and everything else and I still...bought...it!

I'm so confused now I don't know if I should punch Sony in the face or go buy a saddle!

If anyone doesn't know about the joke about being called a jacka$$, let me know. Wait a minute, jokes suck even more like that. OK. If a man calls you a jackass, punch him in the face. If another man calls you a jackass, it's time to buy a saddle.

Levity aside...The XBR1 received top accolades for its superior picture quality, so did the XBR2 but not as highly ranked, because Sony didn't really improve anything and the other manufacturers did. You get no points for standing still, right?

This saddle is itchy...Will
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post #1622 of 2286
3/7/10 at 4:00pm
What a thread! And what a bunch of helpful people! I'm as complete a rookie as one can be, so go easy on me ladies and fellas.

Talk about a learning curve - a few weeks ago I decided it was time to upgrade the 'ole living room and was bombarded with the deluge that are all of the options, code names, model numbers, etc... I eventually narrowed it down to a 46V (I'm a sucker for a cheap price - issues notwithstanding). The V showed up broken, so I sent it back and had a change of heart: the $ would be well spent on a Z based on what I was reading in this thread. SO, I've had the Z for a few weeks, and yes, I've read this entire thread. Granted, I skipped the stuff that's over my head (ahem, that's a lot), but I've got the main jist of it all.

I've been working with John's and Will's settings. I think I like Sony's "standard" setting with tweaks for HDTV. For BD, I use John's and Will's (a conglomeration, I think). The PQ is amazing (look at me, using acronyms).

Before I ask my noob questions, I want to thank the helpful people in this thread. Thanks.

Okay, to my two issues:

1. When I switch from HDMI 2(PS3) to HDMI 1 (comcast HD box), I get a black screen until I change the channel. When I turn on the TV, if it's set to HDMI1, I don't get a picture until I change the channel. It's almost like I have to change a channel to get the TV to recognize there's a cable signal coming. This is very annoying.

2. When I change channels from a 1080i to 720p (to ESPN, for instance) for the FIRST time, the TV warns me that it's an "unsupported signal." I change the channel then back, and the message goes away. If I keep it on that channel, it never leaves. This is also very annoying. I've searched everywhere for a place to set it up to accept 720p as well as 1080i as I am able to do on my PS3 (also new), but I can't figure it out. Could it be a cable box issue?

And one issue I solved: On PS3, occasionally, I'd get a million little neon green pixels on specific screens when playing games (COD4MW2). I was using "sony" HDMI cables. I'd unplug them then replug them in, and the pixels would go away. That got annoying, so I scrapped the sony cables and now use cheapos I got from Amazon, and the issue is solved. Go me.

So, if anyone can tell me why my TV doesn't pick up cable until a channel is changed, and why it doesn't like 720p for the first time while viewing, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,

mb

edit - I should also mention that I have not touched the software of the TV yet. I know there's an update from Sony that I need to install via USB, but I haven't done it yet.
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post #1623 of 2286
3/8/10 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Yes, I dropped color to around 42, and have been using a backlight of 3 for nighttime viewing with a lamp on. See if that works for you.

I already adjusted the settings in my signature.

-John

I've had the 46z for a month now. I just applied your settings. They look very good. I'm going to watch various content for a few days and revisit some favorites. Previously, I had used:

Custom
Warm 1
White balance
green -8
blue -4
red -2

I must say overall I am very pleased with the z5100. PQ and the menu are great. I've used the Netflix stream a lot as well and aside from some buffering during peak periods that has been a real plus. I don't know split beans from coffee about color settings so I really appreciate the contributions on this forum by knowlegable folks.
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post #1624 of 2286
3/8/10 at 9:21am
dsskid, I just realized how to find luminance with a 0 IRE on your CALman report.

I didn't realize this set got so black.

How were you able to take the black level that low?

This tv looks like it calibrates beautifully, even better than my V5100. I'm seriously thinking about picking one of these up at this point.

I'm curious if you'll get the chance to test this years EX500, as the uk review says Sony has improved black level.

Regardless, your calibration report had me beyond intrigued- I'm starting to forget about plasma!

Thanks,
Matt
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post #1625 of 2286
3/8/10 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

dsskid, I just realized how to find luminance with a 0 IRE on your CALman report.

I didn't realize this set got so black.

How were you able to take the black level that low?

This tv looks like it calibrates beautifully, even better than my V5100. I'm seriously thinking about picking one of these up at this point.

I'm curious if you'll get the chance to test this years EX500, as the uk review says Sony has improved black level.

Regardless, your calibration report had me beyond intrigued- I'm starting to forget about plasma!

Thanks,
Matt

The Z5100 does indeed calibrate better than the V5100, which is one of the reasons why I upgraded from the V5100. But don't get too excited. I used the Eyeone Pro for this calibration, because their was a lot of ambient light in the room at the time of the calibration, and I'm sure it's accuracy below 10 IRE is not as good as my OTC1000.

Also, the display dims after a few seconds of 0 IRE black, so even if it was, the accuracy of 0 IRE when actually viewing material is suspect.

I will tell you this, between the excellent gamma and black levels, the Z5100 is at least on par with my 3 year old Panny 58PZ700U, which has poor gamma. Drawback is the viewing angle, and some clouding issues. While the Z5100 is very good, the LCD's viewing angle cannot compare to that of plasma, and there are cloding issues.
So if you are going to be sitting off to the side, you may still want to get the plasma. If not, the Z5100 is a sweet display.

I'm not planning on buying a EX500, but if someone that has one wants theirs calibrated, I will be happy to give my thoughts on it's performance, just not the settings.

In fairness, I only give out the settings to displays that I personally own, not the ones that I get hired for.

- John
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post #1626 of 2286
3/8/10 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by bravioli View Post

What a thread! And what a bunch of helpful people! I'm as complete a rookie as one can be, so go easy on me ladies and fellas.

Talk about a learning curve - a few weeks ago I decided it was time to upgrade the 'ole living room and was bombarded with the deluge that are all of the options, code names, model numbers, etc... I eventually narrowed it down to a 46V (I'm a sucker for a cheap price - issues notwithstanding). The V showed up broken, so I sent it back and had a change of heart: the $ would be well spent on a Z based on what I was reading in this thread. SO, I've had the Z for a few weeks, and yes, I've read this entire thread. Granted, I skipped the stuff that's over my head (ahem, that's a lot), but I've got the main jist of it all.

I've been working with John's and Will's settings. I think I like Sony's "standard" setting with tweaks for HDTV. For BD, I use John's and Will's (a conglomeration, I think). The PQ is amazing (look at me, using acronyms).

Before I ask my noob questions, I want to thank the helpful people in this thread. Thanks.

Okay, to my two issues:

1. When I switch from HDMI 2(PS3) to HDMI 1 (comcast HD box), I get a black screen until I change the channel. When I turn on the TV, if it's set to HDMI1, I don't get a picture until I change the channel. It's almost like I have to change a channel to get the TV to recognize there's a cable signal coming. This is very annoying.

2. When I change channels from a 1080i to 720p (to ESPN, for instance) for the FIRST time, the TV warns me that it's an "unsupported signal." I change the channel then back, and the message goes away. If I keep it on that channel, it never leaves. This is also very annoying. I've searched everywhere for a place to set it up to accept 720p as well as 1080i as I am able to do on my PS3 (also new), but I can't figure it out. Could it be a cable box issue?

And one issue I solved: On PS3, occasionally, I'd get a million little neon green pixels on specific screens when playing games (COD4MW2). I was using "sony" HDMI cables. I'd unplug them then replug them in, and the pixels would go away. That got annoying, so I scrapped the sony cables and now use cheapos I got from Amazon, and the issue is solved. Go me.

So, if anyone can tell me why my TV doesn't pick up cable until a channel is changed, and why it doesn't like 720p for the first time while viewing, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,

mb

edit - I should also mention that I have not touched the software of the TV yet. I know there's an update from Sony that I need to install via USB, but I haven't done it yet.


Welcome to the Forum, and out thread. I think we have the nice bunch of guys on this thread, and I'm sure you'll fit in nicely.

My settings are accurate for my display, and viewing environment, and not likely to be exact for yours, so mine and Will's are a good starting point, and tweak to your room. Some prefer to use their own, which is fine as well.

You're situation is puzzling to me. The symptoms that you are describing usually occur when the signal isn't reaching the display. I was going to sugggest that you swap out your HDMI cables, but it appears that you have already done so.

I have a few questions:
  • Do you have the problem when you switch from cable to PS3?
  • Have you tried swithcing inputs for the cable box? Sometimes you can have a problematic input.
  • If it's not the input, do you have another cable box in your home that you can try?

If so, and you still have a problem, it may be your display.

-John
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post #1627 of 2286
3/8/10 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by bravioli View Post

What a thread! And what a bunch of helpful people! I'm as complete a rookie as one can be, so go easy on me ladies and fellas.

Talk about a learning curve - a few weeks ago I decided it was time to upgrade the 'ole living room and was bombarded with the deluge that are all of the options, code names, model numbers, etc... I eventually narrowed it down to a 46V (I'm a sucker for a cheap price - issues notwithstanding). The V showed up broken, so I sent it back and had a change of heart: the $ would be well spent on a Z based on what I was reading in this thread. SO, I've had the Z for a few weeks, and yes, I've read this entire thread. Granted, I skipped the stuff that's over my head (ahem, that's a lot), but I've got the main jist of it all.

I've been working with John's and Will's settings. I think I like Sony's "standard" setting with tweaks for HDTV. For BD, I use John's and Will's (a conglomeration, I think). The PQ is amazing (look at me, using acronyms).

Before I ask my noob questions, I want to thank the helpful people in this thread. Thanks.

Okay, to my two issues:

1. When I switch from HDMI 2(PS3) to HDMI 1 (comcast HD box), I get a black screen until I change the channel. When I turn on the TV, if it's set to HDMI1, I don't get a picture until I change the channel. It's almost like I have to change a channel to get the TV to recognize there's a cable signal coming. This is very annoying.

2. When I change channels from a 1080i to 720p (to ESPN, for instance) for the FIRST time, the TV warns me that it's an "unsupported signal." I change the channel then back, and the message goes away. If I keep it on that channel, it never leaves. This is also very annoying. I've searched everywhere for a place to set it up to accept 720p as well as 1080i as I am able to do on my PS3 (also new), but I can't figure it out. Could it be a cable box issue?

And one issue I solved: On PS3, occasionally, I'd get a million little neon green pixels on specific screens when playing games (COD4MW2). I was using "sony" HDMI cables. I'd unplug them then replug them in, and the pixels would go away. That got annoying, so I scrapped the sony cables and now use cheapos I got from Amazon, and the issue is solved. Go me.

So, if anyone can tell me why my TV doesn't pick up cable until a channel is changed, and why it doesn't like 720p for the first time while viewing, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,

mb

edit - I should also mention that I have not touched the software of the TV yet. I know there's an update from Sony that I need to install via USB, but I haven't done it yet.

Welcome to AVS Forum and this thread. Your problems sound to me like a cable STB issue. Is there a setup option with your Comcast STB to select the HD signal output resolution (Dish HD receivers have this option)? If so, select 1080i. That way all of the Comcast HD content will be sent from the Comcast STB to the Z5100 as 1080i, regardless of what the channel's native resolution is. With OTA DTV HD signals, the Z5100's tuner can accept a variety of incoming resolutions and scale them all to the 1080p display resolution. With HDMI inputs, it may be more particular, but I really haven't tried sending a 720p signal to my Z5100 via HDMI. I'll try it later today and see if I get the "unsupported" message.

The black screen when changing channels also sounds like a Comcast STB issue. If their aren't any Comcast users on this thread that can advise you as to the best STB setup settings, try your local Comcast thread on AVS Forums. Your problems really don't sound like a TV issue to me, so good luck with Comcast.
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post #1628 of 2286
3/8/10 at 3:15pm
FWIW, I have seen the anomaly when changing channels. But since I am on the cutting edge of DirecTV, I imagine it is my receiver and not the TV.

On Saturday this is what happened: cannot decide what to watch. Have ESPN2 on basketball on one tuner, have CBS basketball on the other. I decide to change the ESPN2 tuner to NBC to watch golf/news. Screen goes blank but the progress bar/channel bar is still there. Flip back to ESPN2 and no picture but have progress/channel bar. I tune to NBC and then to PBS and back to NBC. Alas, my picture comes back. I had seen this 3 times in 45 minutes of trying to decide what to watch on Saturday. I have not seen it since. I think in this case ESPN2 is 720p and NBC/PBS are 1080i. In between those steps I tuned directly to OTA NBC and the picture was fine.

I highly doubt it is my TV but I do not have another HDMI cable to try. I think for me it definitely lies with my HR22 receiver. Throw in the firmware issue and I think that is a legit conclusion.

CEB II, if I set my receiver to do only 1080i, what happens to the 720p and 480i signals? Do they get upconverted or do they look the same? Right now it is set to do 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p.
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post #1629 of 2286
3/8/10 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Welcome to the Forum, and out thread. I think we have the nice bunch of guys on this thread, and I'm sure you'll fit in nicely.

Thanks! Looking forward to it...

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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

My settings are accurate for my display, and viewing environment, and not likely to be exact for yours, so mine and Will's are a good starting point, and tweak to your room. Some prefer to use their own, which is fine as well.

Yep - I'm definitely a sucker for the overly colored displays and bright screens. I can tell your settings are more "true," but I just prefer more of an effect, if that makes any sense. If I weren't so anal about reflections on the screen, I'd have done a lot more research on Samsungs.


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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post


You're situation is puzzling to me. The symptoms that you are describing usually occur when the signal isn't reaching the display. I was going to sugggest that you swap out your HDMI cables, but it appears that you have already done so.

I have a few questions:
  • Do you have the problem when you switch from cable to PS3?
  • Have you tried swithcing inputs for the cable box? Sometimes you can have a problematic input.
  • If it's not the input, do you have another cable box in your home that you can try?

If so, and you still have a problem, it may be your display.

-John

No problem from cable to PS3 at all.
I have not tried switching inputs for cable, but I will.
I do have another cable box, but it's not HD. Should I try it anyway?

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Welcome to AVS Forum and this thread. Your problems sound to me like a cable STB issue. Is there a setup option with your Comcast STB to select the HD signal output resolution (Dish HD receivers have this option)? If so, select 1080i. That way all of the Comcast HD content will be sent from the Comcast STB to the Z5100 as 1080i, regardless of what the channel's native resolution is. With OTA DTV HD signals, the Z5100's tuner can accept a variety of incoming resolutions and scale them all to the 1080p display resolution. With HDMI inputs, it may be more particular, but I really haven't tried sending a 720p signal to my Z5100 via HDMI. I'll try it later today and see if I get the "unsupported" message.

The black screen when changing channels also sounds like a Comcast STB issue. If their aren't any Comcast users on this thread that can advise you as to the best STB setup settings, try your local Comcast thread on AVS Forums. Your problems really don't sound like a TV issue to me, so good luck with Comcast.

Thanks so much for the help. I'm definitely thinking this is a Comcast box issue coupled with my lack of knowledge about how to properly set up this stuff and then diagnose as I go.

There is not, that I know of, an option to set up the Comcast box that I have. I wouldn't even know where to begin, but I will call their customer (dis)service. I've tried resetting the box and everything; perhaps it's a bad one or something.

I'll check out the Comcast thread as well - just getting my bearings around here and marveling at how friendly it is compared to a few auto forums I frequent.

Thanks for the help guys! I'll report back when I know more.

mb
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post #1630 of 2286
3/8/10 at 10:32pm
Looking to purchase one 46Z5100, any recommendation for a place to pick it up for a good price. thanks
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post #1631 of 2286
3/9/10 at 4:24am
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Looking to purchase one 46Z5100, any recommendation for a place to pick it up for a good price. thanks

Unfortunately, these are being replaced by the 2010, so quantities will be dwindling.

If you use Bing . com
http://www.bing.com/shopping/Sony-BR...ack&FORM=ENCA0
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post #1632 of 2286
3/9/10 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

The Z5100 does indeed calibrate better than the V5100, which is one of the reasons why I upgraded from the V5100. But don't get too excited. I used the Eyeone Pro for this calibration, because their was a lot of ambient light in the room at the time of the calibration, and I'm sure it's accuracy below 10 IRE is not as good as my OTC1000.

Also, the display dims after a few seconds of 0 IRE black, so even if it was, the accuracy of 0 IRE when actually viewing material is suspect.

I will tell you this, between the excellent gamma and black levels, the Z5100 is at least on par with my 3 year old Panny 58PZ700U, which has poor gamma. Drawback is the viewing angle, and some clouding issues. While the Z5100 is very good, the LCD's viewing angle cannot compare to that of plasma, and there are cloding issues.
So if you are going to be sitting off to the side, you may still want to get the plasma. If not, the Z5100 is a sweet display.

I'm not planning on buying a EX500, but if someone that has one wants theirs calibrated, I will be happy to give my thoughts on it's performance, just not the settings.

In fairness, I only give out the settings to displays that I personally own, not the ones that I get hired for.

- John

Ah, I see. Was it that big a step up in picture quality/black level vs. the V5100?

I understand about the settings, of course. It's generous of you to even give out your own settings and it's been much appreciated.

Any chance you'll take another reading with your better light meter? I'm a black level junkie
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post #1633 of 2286
3/9/10 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Ah, I see. Was it that big a step up in picture quality/black level vs. the V5100?

I understand about the settings, of course. It's generous of you to even give out your own settings and it's been much appreciated.

Any chance you'll take another reading with your better light meter? I'm a black level junkie


Big step up? That's relative. It's definitely a step up. The colors are creamier, for lack of a better choice of words. The blacks are deeper, and the dark grays are dark gray rather then bluish.
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post #1634 of 2286
3/9/10 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Big step up? That's relative. It's definitely a step up. The colors are creamier, for lack of a better choice of words. The blacks are deeper, and the dark grays are dark gray rather then bluish.

Exactly. I'm also very picky when it come to black levels, shadow detail, ect... and I was astounded at the black level on my 46z when I plugged it in for the first time.
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post #1635 of 2286
3/9/10 at 12:35pm
I hate to 'me too' post, but the V doesn't have what it takes for someone with a discerning eye. Sure, you could spend more and get better, but I feel the Z has a darn good feature to price ratio...Will
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post #1636 of 2286
3/9/10 at 12:40pm
I think the difference is in Bravia 3...
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post #1637 of 2286
3/9/10 at 1:29pm
I guess there won't be a ccfl replacement for the Z this year, other than Canada, from the looks of it.

Starting to think I should get one of these before they're gone...
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post #1638 of 2286
3/9/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

I guess there won't be a ccfl replacement for the Z this year, other than Canada, from the looks of it.

Starting to think I should get one of these before they're gone...

You won't regret it, IMHO. If you've read through this thread, you will have seen where I and others ranted about how great the PQ is with BD, HD DVD and OTA HD. It is really quite impressive...Will
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post #1639 of 2286
3/9/10 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

I guess there won't be a ccfl replacement for the Z this year, other than Canada, from the looks of it.

Starting to think I should get one of these before they're gone...

Wouldn't you consider the HX701 a direct remplacement for the Z? It's 240Hz CCFL, I guess the rest of the specs might be pretty similar.
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post #1640 of 2286
3/9/10 at 9:33pm
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Wouldn't you consider the HX701 a direct remplacement for the Z? It's 240Hz CCFL, I guess the rest of the specs might be pretty similar.

I believe that's a canadian model, I don't think we're getting that in the US, unless they're going to be rolling those out around June.

Sony seems to be phasing out CCFL, which is too bad, since I think edge-lit LED has a way to go, but switching to Sharp's uv2a panels from their s-pva line is a good move, since clouding will no longer be an issue.

Sorry, back on topic
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post #1641 of 2286
3/10/10 at 1:31pm
I'm Excited about getting my 46Z5100 this Friday, it will be my first LCD TV believe it or not. As I have a 34 XBR800 tube! I opted to buy it locally with an extended Warranty for almost as good a price as online somewhere. I like the security of buying at a local trusted shop just in case with their local 4 year extended warranty. Man I'm excited about it, I paid a few extra hundred in tax and warranty fees but I figure its worth it. Plus I got a free Blu Ray player with it: not bad at all. Anyway when I get mine I'm sure I will be back with questions and ....
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post #1642 of 2286
3/11/10 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Sony seems to be phasing out CCFL, which is too bad, since I think edge-lit LED has a way to go,

Sorry, back on topic

Very much on topic, sir...And you bring up an excellent point! Technology seems to be discarded for 'newer' and 'flashier' stuff all too often and much too quickly. As LCD technologies improve, CCFL (and WCG-CCFL) should be allowed to grace LCD panels for a while longer. I've looked at both types of the LED back light technology. They do offer some advantages but IMHO, the disadvantages out-weigh them considerably.

Also, Sony and other companies need to be much more diligent during their R&D stage. Can anyone say LCoS?

What would be the harm in sticking to fluorescent back lights and perfecting them? A lot of CCFL back lit sets were praised for their black levels this and last year! I know...I think I've read every review out there!

Enough ranting. Sorry...Will
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post #1643 of 2286
3/11/10 at 2:20pm
Ok I need to ask a question, I want to get a Blu Ray Calibration disc. Which one is the best? Also do I need to go into a service menu to do it? Sorry if these questions have been asked before which I am sure they have not easily found on here with so many threads. I can't wait to get my Z on tomorrow.
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post #1644 of 2286
3/11/10 at 2:36pm
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Ok I need to ask a question, I want to get a Blu Ray Calibration disc. Which one is the best? Also do I need to go into a service menu to do it? Sorry if these questions have been asked before which I am sure they have not easily found on here with so many threads. I can't wait to get my Z on tomorrow.

Hi Tightclaws,

There are several options available as far as calibration discs
  • One available on this forum for free (I haven't used it).
  • Spears & Munsil disc, which when you're on a pattern, if you hit the up arrow key, gives instruction.
  • DVE BD disc, which gives you a tutorial in the beginning. Both are very good.
  • And of course there are others.

The Z5100 model doesn't have any color management controls other than the standard color and tint settings, but it does have white balance (grayscale) controls in the user menu. But unless you have a meter and software, using these controls correctly is very difficult.

So there really is no need to enter the service mode on this model.

-Best,
John
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post #1645 of 2286
3/11/10 at 2:41pm
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Very much on topic, sir...And you bring up an excellent point! Technology seems to be discarded for 'newer' and 'flashier' stuff all too often and much too quickly. As LCD technologies improve, CCFL (and WCG-CCFL) should be allowed to grace LCD panels for a while longer. I've looked at both types of the LED back light technology. They do offer some advantages but IMHO, the disadvantages out-weigh them considerably.

Also, Sony and other companies need to be much more diligent during their R&D stage. Can anyone say LCoS?

What would be the harm in sticking to fluorescent back lights and perfecting them? A lot of CCFL back lit sets were praised for their black levels this and last year! I know...I think I've read every review out there!

Enough ranting. Sorry...Will


Will, I think we all wouldn't have a problem with using LEDs as long as they are a full backlight similar to the Sharp LE700 series.

That could be where sets are headed, with Sony's lower tier sets going to full LED backlighting instead of CCFL. That would only be a plus as far as color is concerned.
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post #1646 of 2286
3/11/10 at 2:43pm
dsskid Thank you so much, I have copied your settings and Will's also so I will see how it goes tomorrow. Thanks again, I am really excited about going from a tube to my first LCD. I have a nice LCD pc monitor and I see the huge detail difference between that and my tube and imagine the jump to this set to be even beyond that. The 34 XBR tube still has a great picture but it was time to step up.
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post #1647 of 2286
3/12/10 at 3:24pm
I ended up going for this one Spears & Munsil it just looked like the best option. I have the set and I'm loving it so far, the detail is almost too much! I have to get used to it. I figure there is a certain amount of hours before it shows its best picture also. Anyway thanks for all the suggestions, all my HDMI ports are full already LOL.
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3/12/10 at 3:40pm
The S&M disc is my favorite disc for video calibration. It's accurate and easy to use.
You can also check out the extended feature articles on video calibration that Stacey Spears and Don Munsil have put together on their website HERE.
Just as well, there is also a thread in the calibration forum here on AVS where Stacey and Don will answer and questions you might have if/when they can.
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3/12/10 at 3:55pm
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dsskid Thank you so much, I have copied your settings and Will's also so I will see how it goes tomorrow. Thanks again, I am really excited about going from a tube to my first LCD. I have a nice LCD pc monitor and I see the huge detail difference between that and my tube and imagine the jump to this set to be even beyond that. The 34 XBR tube still has a great picture but it was time to step up.

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I ended up going for this one Spears & Munsil it just looked like the best option. I have the set and I'm loving it so far, the detail is almost too much! I have to get used to it. I figure there is a certain amount of hours before it shows its best picture also. Anyway thanks for all the suggestions, all my HDMI ports are full already LOL.

You're very welcome, enjoy your new display.
-Best,
John
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3/13/10 at 12:53am
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

The S&M disc is my favorite disc for video calibration. It's accurate and easy to use.
You can also check out the extended feature articles on video calibration that Stacey Spears and Don Munsil have put together on their website HERE.
Just as well, there is also a thread in the calibration forum here on AVS where Stacey and Don will answer and questions you might have if/when they can.

Oh and thank you very much I will check out the site, the Disc shipped yesterday, from Amazon very quick. I should have it next week I hope.
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