'Glee' on FOX HD - Page 2

We just watched tonight's episode. It was very funny in spots. The battle between Will (Matt Morrison) and Sue (the always teriffic Jane Lynch) has great potential for lotsa yucks. Jessalyn Gilsig as Will's wife, gets yet another psycho role to play but she's very good at it. Jayma Mays as Emma is also very good. The highlight for us was the closing song by Lea Michele. She has a spectacular voice and it shows why she had such a successful run in Spring Awakenings on Broadway. All in all, this show looks like it could have a good run.

The onscreen "singing" looked like it was, lip-synced to studio/looped track ... ala Moulin Rouge, The Monkeys ... and numerous other films/shows. ... Nothing to get worked up about.

The lip-synced studio track ended up being really distracting during each song just because it immediately took you out of the show. I understand it would be next to impossible to do it live, but couldn't they aim to make it seem just a bit more real? Fifteen minutes of the show just sounded like you were listening to a CD.

<3 lea michelle... wow what a voice!

Just set the DVR to record them all. This is normally not my type of show, but I loved what I saw, and heard, in the extended pilot and tonight's episode. I think this one is going to be a winner. If nothing else, it's not a cop/doctor/lawyer show, so it's already got refreshingly different written all over it.

The entire episode was off on my end. Guess it was a local problem.

I was coming on here to post just about the same thing. I mean couldn't they at least try to make it seem more real? Are those even the real actor's voices? And it sounds like more than 6-7 are singing on these tracks they are using... I completely agree that it took me out of it.

But on the flip side, I enjoyed the episode. I read a couple critic reviews of episodes 2 and 3 and admittedly became nervous Glee would be a one-hit wonder. But it was fun and I did enjoy the "music video" number where the leading girl was lamenting over the football guy. (Sorry, I don't remember character names just yet.)

I'm checking this out as well, has a fun vibe, but like many others I find the studio recordings screwing up the flow of the show.

The Journey song from the pilot fit better than Gold Digger last night. I think that probably had something to do with the band being on stage and it sounding like that group was singing it.

Gold Digger it sounded like that room should have had a full ensemble in there and it didn't match up well with the actors.

It seems like the actors can sing, the show would probably come off better in those scenes if they just had them do it acapella with just the piano to help. Then bring out all the accompany music for actual "performances".

I think that would help separate the initial "learning" from the competitions and performances that will come later.

The song at the end fit a lot better, probably because it was setup as a montage rather than performance or practice.

I actually thought that Matt Morrison did a pretty good rap on Gold Digger. The three Cheerios had some pretty decent vocal chops during their tryout. That will be a good storyline. In regard to the vocal tracks, there are very few TV shows and almost no movies that don't use prerecorded vocal tracks. The problem with the tracks used on Glee is that they're way overproduced. They sound much more like full scale mutli-track production recordings than live peformances. They do sound great but they do detract from the intent of the show. OTOH, Lea Michele's closer was great because she's so strong vocally that she could just lay the track down with a minimum of audio enhancement.

Amazon has a free 12 min clip about the casting sessions for the show in their VOD section, interesting stuff.

i could listen to this all day (and i probably will)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lddv6pq3QA

He did a good job but the studio track just didn't seem to match his voice for the rest of the show; so it made the lip-sync obvious and I agree with the others that it kind of took me out of the show.

I still haven't decided on this show yet. I don't find it 'great' or anything, and it seems to me that most of the numbers are more like dancing and lip-syncing rather then any of the classic musicals. That was also the problem I had to Viva-Laughlin (I think that was the show's name). Although I don't think the latter show even had the actual actor's singing. At least this one does, even if it is studio over-dub.

Those of you who only had some sync problems with last night's episode should consider yourselves lucky. It was completely balled up via Fox's OKC affiliate and Cox. About half of the episode consisted of either a black screen or the "Fox Channel 25" logo" and about half of what was left was in SD. To cap it all off, the show quit recording 3 minutes early. Fortunately, Hulu had it and I was able to watch it today.

I am loving this show. Its combination of quirky characters, risque situations, and GREAT music have really appealed to me. I am happy to see Jane Lynch get a role that she has a chance to do something with. She is a funny lady and some of her one liners in last night's show were choice.

I, too, thought that the Cheerios' sexy presentation of the song on Principal Figgins' approved list was not only extremely well done but funny. I am a little surprised to hear the complaints about the lip syncing of the production numbers. That's the way it is and the way it will always be because it's the only way it can be done. I was particularly impressed with Lea Michelle's sensational performance of Take a Bow at the end of the show. The girl has a big voice, to say the least and I thought that the production was imaginative and effective. It moved me.

Just astonishing stuff! Itunes is gonna sell a boatload of this one.

I love this show so much.

Jane Lynch is (with apologies to Tina Fey) the funniest woman on TV at the moment. The way she shamelessly, unapologetically goes for every moment and beat is priceless.

I know I'm in the minority, but I loved Gold Digger. Mercedes has a *voice* on her, and Matthew Morrison handled the rap pretty featly for a Broadway guy.

Take a Bow was quite interesting -- performed totally without irony, but if you really listen to it, who's the other woman here?

And I really would like to thank the producers for creating a couple in Finn and Quinn whose names cannot be obnoxiously smushed together

I didn't dislike Gold Digger, but just felt the way they went about it disrupted the vibe of the show. If you only have a few people and a keyboard, make it sound like that. Acapella stuff can sound awesome too without all the additional pieces. There's obviously a lot of talent on this show, so let it shine like in the pilot and the teacher singing just him and the guitar.

I did catch the irony of take a bow. In that she's the cheatee so to speak.

One thing that annoys me with the relationships is the constant need to separate the couples that should be together. Do we really need 2 versions of that going on here? I mean every show has this, would it really be so bad if the teacher was with the other teacher and happy? He's got enough villains with the football players, the crazy cheerleader coach, and the principal. An obnoxious wife too? Come on.

and I leave you with this word....


Qufinn

I really hope that every time Finn has an anxious moment we're not going to see a replay of him running that guy over. Geez, that will get old very fast. On Gold Digger, when Matt Morrison was doing his Kanye bit, if you watched him you could see his stage training at work. He moves very well. I looked at a clip of Take a Bow today and the staging and editing are excellent and, again, there's that wonderful voice. Lea Michele is obviously a Broadway star but this show could take her career to heights that eclipse that by quite a margin.

I realize for optimal sound and quality, it is best to dub over voices. (Every movie re-records dialogue, after all.) But they can do better with the syncing of the track to the actors' mouths. And I could see how they intentionally want to break away from the reality of the moment and do a "full production" number, rather than a few voices and piano...I mean that's a musical. People don't spontaneously break out into chorus in real life! LOL So it's not so much THAT which separates me from the moment. But put these two things together, and they just didn't really do it well. It wasn't the additional musical instruments in the track. For me, 6 voices should not suddenly become a choir...I think that is what bothered me the most. And then the fact those voices didn't match up with what I was seeing...

To add to the above, contrast the final song in the episode with the rap song. The final song didn't seem quite so much like lip-syncing to me, rather it seemed like she was singing the song. Maybe that particular actress is just better at lip-syncing then the rest.

To enjoy any story told with music one must suspend a somewhat higher quotient of disbelief than is required when watching an ordinary dramatic show. After all, we are not likely to see folks breaking out in song and dance in real life, at least not in my experience. If a story is effectively told with music, I go with the flow and don't get tied up in criticizing the technical details unless they are truly awful. As noted in my earlier post, I thought that the production numbers in the Glee shows have passed that test with flying colors. Unfortunately, some can't do that very readily and dislike musical storytelling as a consequence. What can I say? I'm a sucker for music drama.

I enjoy all that, I've enjoyed all the other songs in the show. This one just really didn't fit. It sounded like someone hit play on a Kanye CD rather than the people from Glee giving their take on a song.

Something fun all the Glee fans should enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIoSTbPt_PI

The technical details **WERE* truly awful.

Having worked in musical theater for many, many years in my youth, I'm a little sensitive to this issue. It's much easier to suspend disbelief if it feels plausible that the person moving the lips is actually singing the song, and if the audio mix matches the environment. The sound mix and instrumentation for the dance numbers was so wrong in almost every case, it threw me right out of the story. Somebody made some terrible choices in post production.

The exception was the three Cherios singing "Say A Little Prayer". That worked better than the rest. And those three girls are spectacular dancers. Their performance was perfect in just about every way. They really nailed the choreography like they had been rehearsing it for years.

Even though the other song numbers were flawed, this is still an enjoyable show and so different than anything else on network television that I feel compelled to watch just to support the effort.

But the technical details weren't awful, at least not to me. Our disagreement here just goes to show that the level of awfulness, like the quality of picture and audio, is ultimately in the eye of the beholder. Thus, that it worked for me but it didn't work for you and some others isn't especially surprising -- or definitive.

We agree, though, that the delightful Say a Little Prayer number with the Cheerios was well done and a lot of fun, the best thing in this week's show.

I thought the studio track was very distracting in this weeks episode, I didn't notice it being as bad in the pilot. At times, for the guy in the wheelchair, it didn't even look like his voice. Hopefully that will improve in future episodes. I also don't like how a few songs sounded like there were full ensembles singing when it was only 5 people. Just takes me out of the show a little.

With that said, I had fun and enjoyed both the pilot and this episode. I'll keep watching as long as the continue to have a decent mix of music on the show. I'm out though if it starts turning into High School Musical. So far, so good. They just need to work on blending the studio track into the show better. Pilot was pretty good but not this weeks show. Fresh new show that is fun to watch, hopefully it will not get canceled like every other new show I enjoy.

It's got just a bit more meat on its bones than HSM. Look at the cast of characters. Hard ass, vicious Cheerios coach, narcissistic, sociopath wife, sarcastic principal, narcissistic female lead singer, germaphobic potential other woman, insecure lead male singer and so on. Not exactly a Disney-like bunch of folks. Somehow I don't think that you'll ever hear the words "launder my soiled delicates" in a Disney film

I agree that Glee is a good deal more substantial then the High School Musical franchise. Glee is funnier, raunchier, and darker than the HSM movies, and the music is better, too, it seems to me.

glee is now my new favorite show on TV. it is rare for the broadcast networks to deliver a truly quality show - this has been relegated to Show/HBO/Cable etc. Then you throw Fox into the equation and this is truly remarkable. The production value, acting, singing, script, and picture quality are truly outstanding. I am hoping the public gets behind this show they way they get behind reality TV shows.

To me, this is like two shows. It's best half being the writing and acting of the adult cast. The casting of these actors is top notch.

The other half though, leaves me unsatisfied. This is the somewhat uneven, less so well cast, etc., etc., younger actors and the way the glee performances are presented. I agree with the comments about how the obvious lip sync to studio recordings gives a fake quality to the show.

There were times during the last episode, where I found myself wishing that they had chosen to depict a spelling, or science decathlon team instead

You definately won't see the Celibacy Club dry-humping baloons in High School Musical, that's for sure.

Agreed. It's fair to say that good taste is not a high priority for Glee's writers. God bless them for that.