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post #571 of 2083
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Originally Posted by ahard View Post

Look it, I just started watching this show in Nov after reading about it in the HOTP thread. I have the DVR set to record new and repeat episodes. As such I was able to watch some of the first episodes as well as the new ones. I still have the episode from 12-16 that I haven't watched yet. I love this show. Period. I haven't read this whole thread but it doesn't look as though the actors are the ones singing. Are they?

On the issue of the show on DVD, I'm like most here; I'll just wait for it on Blu-Ray.

There have been only 13 episodes. The Pilot, which aired in the spring, also aired in an expanded form for the fall season. It may be in some episode lists twice, but the only thing different is the addition or expansion of a few scenes.

I'm waiting for the Blu-ray discs, too. Maybe they'll do a full 22 episode release on Blu-ray some time after the end of the season. That's what I'd like to see.
post #572 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

Although almost all of the musical numbers are prerecorded, as is standard in movies and TV, every actor on the show actually sings. There are no ringers ala Marni Nixon for Audrey Hepburn. The cast was selected primarily based upon their acting and singing abilities.

the prerecording does make it sound too good sometimes and gives the impression of the actor's singing being dubbed, like when the first time I heard Dianna Agron sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMsDebyHgpg

Btw, if the Emmy had an "Outstanding Jailbait Moment" this would win hands down.

they really found two great actresses/singers in Lea Michele (Rachel) and Amber Riley(Mercedes). I wonder if Chris Colfer (Kurt) could really hit the high notes if he wanted to.
post #573 of 2083
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

the prerecording does make it sound too good sometimes and gives the impression of the actor's singing being dubbed, like when the first time I heard Dianna Agron sing

Ya wanna know something even more scandalous? Judy Garland "lip-synced" all her singing on "Wizard of Oz" !!!!!!!! And she won a freaking Oscar for it!!! Oh the humanity .... will the "faking" NEVER stop!!!!

Geez people, get a grip already, no seriously.
post #574 of 2083
My issue which is really that big of a deal but can be annoying is that when they're singing for some reason it doesn't look as though the lip movement is in sync with the song.
post #575 of 2083
I realize that most people here understand the following points about film editing, so don't be offended, please. (It's easy to bring out the teacher in me. Sorry. )

For a program that's shot single camera style and edited, lip sync issues are unavoidable - especially in a show like Glee, that has multiple performers doing complex choreography. You can sometimes do a song in one audio "take" for an edited show (though you don't have to), but it's impossible to do the whole song in one visual take. As you position the camera for each new point of view, the singer needs to be listening to the music that's been recorded, for the sake of continuity. Then you hope you didn't miss too much in the movements of the actors - a missing piece of paper, a different facial expression between takes. For a scene of any complexity at all, there are inevitable continuity mistakes.

A similar continuity problem exists for the audio. If you listen carefully, it's fairly easy to pick up on the differences in ambient noise in Glee. Ambient noise, or "room tone," is the background noise that we never pay much attention to - heating and AC, doors opening and closing, people walking by in the background, the unique reflections of sound off the room's hard surfaces. All these elements are carefully controlled in a recording studio, but you can't control a plane flying by outside the room where you're shooting the film. To compensate somewhat, ambient noise is recorded on location and mixed in a controlled way with studio recordings. If they're pressed for time, though, the transition from normal ambient sound to the first part of a studio recording can be surprisingly jarring.

Problems with lip sync (lack of continuity between the picture and sound) are going to happen. What's really surprising with a weekly TV show (and a musical, no less) is that there aren't many more of them. People who complain about lip sync issues may well have legitimate points. It's certainly possible to edit sound badly. The alternative - which would be to shoot live with a single camera - would be a very different type of show. I like Glee the way it is, continuity errors and all. They do a remarkable job with the audio.

I could appreciate the show even if the performers didn't sing their own songs, but I like that they do. Lip sync mistakes are going to happen.


Again, my apologies for the technical tangent.
post #576 of 2083
Matt Morrison got to shine during the Kennedy Center Honors show on Tuesday night. During the tribute to Mel Brooks, he did Springtime for Hitler, replendant in his black SS uniform. He also showed off some pretty good dance moves.

We watched the two Glee reruns last night, and damn, they are still entertaining, especially the second show. Sue Sylvester gets to make some of the most ignorant and racist comments in a funny way that you'll ever hear. Loved it when she was berating Will's real teaching subject of Spanish, calling it a "dying language". Another gem was her professing her love of minorities so much that she was considering moving to California to become one. The one thing that I didn't care for was the performance of Hate on Me by Mercedes. It was so heavily tracked that Amber Riley's voice was not natural at all and Santana and Tina as the two girl backup singers were made to sound like 5 times that number. On most of Lea and Amber's solo's, it seems to me that the autotuning is fairly low key if it's even used due to the natural strength and quality of their voices. On this one it sounded like Amber was in another room.
post #577 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

Matt Morrison got to shine during the Kennedy Center Honors show on Tuesday night. During the tribute to Mel Brooks, he did Springtime for Hitler, replendant in his black SS uniform. He also showed off some pretty good dance moves.

Here's the link for the video. Matt Morrison is remarkably charismatic, in TV, on stage and in interviews.
post #578 of 2083
'Glee' picked up for a second season

Everybody sing! "Glee" will be back for more musical adventures.

By Hanh Nguyen January 11, 2010 8:42 AM - Zap2it

FOX has ordered a second season of its Golden-Globe nominated comedy, it was announced Monday (Jan. 11) at the Television Critics Association Press Tour.

"We've loved 'Glee' ever since it was a pilot script, so it's been an incredible thrill to watch the show take root and see audiences embrace these characters in such a huge way this season," said FOX entertainment president Kevin Reilly. "The show is a true and rare gem in television. We couldn't be more proud of what Ryan Murphy and the 'Glee' team have created so far, and can't wait to see what they come up with for Season Two."

It was also announced that the show is launching a nationwide search in February to fill three new roles for the upcoming season. The search will be chronicled in a multi-part special. The new Gleeks will be revealed on the second season premiere episode.

"'Glee' has always been about finding new fresh exciting voices," said creator Ryan Murphy. "Anybody and everybody now has a chance to be on a show about talented underdogs. No matter who you are -- a Broadway talent or a struggling singing waiter with a dream in the Midwest -- you now have an opportunity to make that dream come true by posting your talent video and showing us what you can do. All the roles will be chosen form the video audition process, which is exciting and unprecedented."

In December, "Glee" received Golden Globe nominations for best TV comedy and for its stars Lea Michele, Matthew Morrison and Jane Lynch. In addition, the show has received nominations from the Screen Actors Guild, the Directors Guild of American and the Writers Guild of America.

Recently "Glee" was named favorite new TV comedy at the People's Choice Awards and was named one of the Top 10 TV programs off the year by the American Film Institute.

"Glee" returns for the second half of its first season on Tuesday, April 13 at 9 p.m. ET/PT on FOX.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...nd-season.html
post #579 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

For a program that's shot single camera style and edited, lip sync issues are unavoidable - especially in a show like Glee, that has multiple performers doing complex choreography. You can sometimes do a song in one audio "take" for an edited show (though you don't have to), but it's impossible to do the whole song in one visual take. As you position the camera for each new point of view, the singer needs to be listening to the music that's been recorded, for the sake of continuity. Then you hope you didn't miss too much in the movements of the actors - a missing piece of paper, a different facial expression between takes. For a scene of any complexity at all, there are inevitable continuity mistakes.

It doesn't help that editors and directors feel the need to have so many fast cuts and different camera positions and points of view during dance numbers these days. Watch an old Fred Asaire or Gene Kelly movie, and watch how long they went in between cuts. Now that was some dancing. I think cutting every couple of seconds actually does a disservice to the performers. It makes it look like a cheat when you are watching cut after cut and know that the performer only had to get 3 or 4 seconds of the number correct at any given time. I'm not saying this cast is any less talented. Just that the talent shines more when you let the camera stay on one take a little longer.

But I know that's old fashioned. Not for the attention deficit crowd.
post #580 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Here's the link for the video. Matt Morrison is remarkably charismatic, in TV, on stage and in interviews.

Loved the woman at the beginning behind Mel Brooks. She's got a look of being horrified/offended - all while rocking to the music.
post #581 of 2083
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

It doesn't help that editors and directors feel the need to have so many fast cuts and different camera positions and points of view during dance numbers these days. Watch an old Fred Asaire or Gene Kelly movie, and watch how long they went in between cuts. Now that was some dancing. I think cutting every couple of seconds actually does a disservice to the performers. It makes it look like a cheat when you are watching cut after cut and know that the performer only had to get 3 or 4 seconds of the number correct at any given time. I'm not saying this cast is any less talented. Just that the talent shines more when you let the camera stay on one take a little longer.

But I know that's old fashioned. Not for the attention deficit crowd.

I agree with you 100%. I remember watching "Chicago" after reading all the great reviews about the wonderful dance scenes, and wondering if there was a single movement in any dance that required more than 3-4 seconds of dance. I left that film believing that none of the major actors had shown me that they can dance. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. I guess we are old fashioned, but to be a dancer it seems like you ought to be able to carry something for at least a minute or so in the same scene. BTW, I am not a dancer and would probably need a camera change at least every 0.1 seconds. But that's just me.
post #582 of 2083
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

....the talent shines more when you let the camera stay on one take a little longer.

But I know that's old fashioned. Not for the attention deficit crowd.

Although it's not a musical number, there's an early episode scene with Will and Emma where they're standing in line waiting for Vocal Adrenaline to perform at Carmel High that's one very long shot. It starts with them standing in line and doesn't end until just before they go up the steps toward the auditorium. Like everything else he does in Glee, Matt Morrison made that scene look effortless.

Contrast that with the scenes where they have to use clever editing to disguise as best they can the fact that Cory Monteith (Finn) can't dance even a little bit.
post #583 of 2083
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

the prerecording does make it sound too good sometimes and gives the impression of the actor's singing being dubbed, like when the first time I heard Dianna Agron sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMsDebyHgpg.

Have you seen this hysterical, yet horrifying response?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lp3s4ygDw0&NR=1
post #584 of 2083
Ken Tucker picks Glee to win the Golden Globe for best comedy/musical this year, but he also picks Alec Baldwin and Courtney Cox to win in their categories (which would leave Matt Morrison and Lea Michele out in the cold). Makes me want to pursue the idea I had about doing a web site to promote Glee and its stars for the Emmys. I have to contact Fox first. I don't want to get sued for using videos and photos illegally online. I've actually gotten permission to use Fox materials in my classroom in years past. It wasn't hard, but this is a whole different kettle of fish.
post #585 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Ken Tucker picks Glee to win the Golden Globe for best comedy/musical this year, but he also picks Alec Baldwin and Courtney Cox to win in their categories (which would leave Matt Morrison and Lea Michele out in the cold). Makes me want to pursue the idea I had about doing a web site to promote Glee and its stars for the Emmys. I have to contact Fox first. I don't want to get sued for using videos and photos illegally online. I've actually gotten permission to use Fox materials in my classroom in years past. It wasn't hard, but this is a whole different kettle of fish.

Since you're promoting their show and especially trying to have it win awards I don't see why they wouldn't allow you.
post #586 of 2083
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

Have you seen this hysterical, yet horrifying response?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lp3s4ygDw0&NR=1

That's hilarious.

My wife and I just watched that 4 or 5 times laughing our a**es off.
post #587 of 2083
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Originally Posted by JMartinko View Post

I agree with you 100%. I remember watching "Chicago" after reading all the great reviews about the wonderful dance scenes, and wondering if there was a single movement in any dance that required more than 3-4 seconds of dance. I left that film believing that none of the major actors had shown me that they can dance. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. I guess we are old fashioned, but to be a dancer it seems like you ought to be able to carry something for at least a minute or so in the same scene. BTW, I am not a dancer and would probably need a camera change at least every 0.1 seconds. But that's just me.

I have the same complaint about martial arts movies. And action movies in general. They are cut so quickly and the camera is so closed to the action all you end up seeing is a confusing mess of bodies and things slamming against each other with no sense of distance and location and you can't tell what the heck is supposed to be happening, other than "stuff get smashed and blown up real good". see any Michael Bay movie. Or the fight in the highrise at the end in The Dark Knight.
post #588 of 2083
A detailed article about producing the songs in 'Glee'.
Music: The Joy of 'Glee'
Jan 1, 2010
PRODUCER ADAM ANDERS GIVES HIT SONGS 'JAZZ HANDS'
http://mixonline.com/recording/mixin...110/index.html
post #589 of 2083
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

'Glee' picked up for a second season

Everybody sing! "Glee" will be back for more musical adventures.

By Hanh Nguyen January 11, 2010 8:42 AM - Zap2it

FOX has ordered a second season of its Golden-Globe nominated comedy, it was announced Monday (Jan. 11) at the Television Critics Association Press Tour.

"We've loved 'Glee' ever since it was a pilot script, so it's been an incredible thrill to watch the show take root and see audiences embrace these characters in such a huge way this season," said FOX entertainment president Kevin Reilly. "The show is a true and rare gem in television. We couldn't be more proud of what Ryan Murphy and the 'Glee' team have created so far, and can't wait to see what they come up with for Season Two."

It was also announced that the show is launching a nationwide search in February to fill three new roles for the upcoming season. The search will be chronicled in a multi-part special. The new Gleeks will be revealed on the second season premiere episode.

"'Glee' has always been about finding new fresh exciting voices," said creator Ryan Murphy. "Anybody and everybody now has a chance to be on a show about talented underdogs. No matter who you are -- a Broadway talent or a struggling singing waiter with a dream in the Midwest -- you now have an opportunity to make that dream come true by posting your talent video and showing us what you can do. All the roles will be chosen form the video audition process, which is exciting and unprecedented."

In December, "Glee" received Golden Globe nominations for best TV comedy and for its stars Lea Michele, Matthew Morrison and Jane Lynch. In addition, the show has received nominations from the Screen Actors Guild, the Directors Guild of American and the Writers Guild of America.

Recently "Glee" was named favorite new TV comedy at the People's Choice Awards and was named one of the Top 10 TV programs off the year by the American Film Institute.

"Glee" returns for the second half of its first season on Tuesday, April 13 at 9 p.m. ET/PT on FOX.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...nd-season.html

I'm still annoyed at the fact that Fox decided to split the season into 2 parts, 4 months apart. Shows that take super-long breaks like that really bother me ("V" being another great example). I know its so they can have their cash cow American Idol in its normal time slot, but it really screws up the storyline. By the time it starts up again, if I remember that its even starting up again, I've forgotten almost everything that happened. Then, there seems to be just a handful of episodes and then its over until the fall.
post #590 of 2083
Just be thankful it's not like the Sopranos where we had to wait years! [img]http://*****************/images/1163[/img]
post #591 of 2083
Glee just won the Golden Globe for Best Comedy Series. Not too shabby!
post #592 of 2083
Now it's time for some Emmy consideration, and wins for the cast.
post #593 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Now it's time for some Emmy consideration, and wins for the cast.

Cast wins may be very difficult this year Joe. The show is new and the actors will be up against perennial powers in the TV comedy category.
post #594 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

Cast wins may be very difficult this year Joe. The show is new and the actors will up against perennial powers in the TV comedy category.

Sure. Witness the Globes tonight. But since Glee won the Golden Globe for comedy/musical, it might encourage voters to take a closer look at the cast.

OK, long shot or not, this week I contact Fox about that web site. Even if it makes no difference, it'll be a blast.
post #595 of 2083
Another award last night when the show got a Screen Actor's Guild award for Best Comedy Ensemble Cast.
post #596 of 2083
So anyway, I have a serious Glee fix that needs to be addressed, is it April yet?
post #597 of 2083
'Glee' Performers Hitting the Road for Spring Concert Series

TVWeek

The kids from "Glee" are going on tour this spring, hitting four American cities as they present songs and dances from the hit Fox TV show.

Lea Michele, Cory Monteith, Amber Riley, Chris Colfer, Kevin McHale, Mark Salling, Dianna Agron, Naya Rivera, Heather Morris, Harry Shum, Jr. and Dijon Talton, will make up the troupe which opens at the Dodge Theater in Phoenix, Arizona May 18.

Glee Live! In Concert! follows up Phoenix with two shows at L.A.'s Gibson Amphitheater, May 20-21, the Rosemont Theater in Chicago, May 25-26, and New York City's Radio City Music Hall on May 28-29.
post #598 of 2083
I'm going to the NYC show.
post #599 of 2083
Two short promos, no spoilers.

Promo 1

Promo 2
post #600 of 2083
3 weeks to go. These promos are getting me psyched up for the final 9.
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