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post #61 of 2083
I agree with stomcrow, I like this show but for some odd reason something is off with the glee club part of it. It just seems uneven. I have no problems with shows with music numbers viva, eli. etc. but I hate reality competition shows. and never seen the hsm series of movies.

As for Jane lynch, I loved her performance recently on Party Down, but it looks like she left mid season for glee. In the past she did a pretty good job on MD's and Lword.
post #62 of 2083
So far, I've really enjoyed this show. The lip-synch issues has been only a minor annoyance, but easily overlooked with the great lyrics and fun choreography. What makes this standout is the hilarious script and over the top characters.

If I were to compare this to previous productions, it contains:
- elements of late 80's John Hughes high school farces (ala Ferris Bueller)
- musical variety with a mix of Flight of Conchords and Moulin Rouge
- some great one-liners hidden in flow of script (30 Rock-like)

I watched the episode over again on Hulu, and the script and musical numbers were just as fresh, with some elements seen for the first time. Very, very few shows on network TV could be watched twice in less than a week and not bore the crap out of ya.
post #63 of 2083
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Originally Posted by TMilner View Post

So far, I've really enjoyed this show. The lip-synch issues has been only a minor annoyance, but easily overlooked with the great lyrics and fun choreography. What makes this standout is the hilarious script and over the top characters.

If I were to compare this to previous productions, it contains:
- elements of late 80's John Hughes high school farces (ala Ferris Bueller)
- musical variety with a mix of Flight of Conchords and Moulin Rouge
- some great one-liners hidden in flow of script (30 Rock-like)

I watched the episode over again on Hulu, and the script and musical numbers were just as fresh, with some elements seen for the first time. Very, very few shows on network TV could be watched twice in less than a week and not bore the crap out of ya.

These are all excellent points. The show is smart and often sly. The best example of that in the most recent episode, I thought, was the Cheerios' Say a Little Prayer production number. It made the principal's approved list because the word "prayer" was in its title but the girls performed it in a way that verged on lasciviousness. It was Good stuff.
post #64 of 2083
I missed last week's episode so I had to catch it on Hulu. I thought the second episode was much better. I laughed a lot more than the pilot plus the comedy was a little darker which is a nice counterpoint to a show that is essentially a musical.
post #65 of 2083
The 2nd episode was definitely better. The darker tone is more in line with what I expected from the previews and the way Fox marketed it.

My one gripe is the kids seem too good. The cheerleaders' number sounded like it wasn't sung by those girls at all, like it was totally dubbed.
post #66 of 2083
Tonight's episode was okay. They didn't sing a big song at the end. Also, I thought they would throw a drink in that girl's face every episode, but they didn't do that in this one.
post #67 of 2083
I was cracken up on this one. The male dancer thing was hilarious. Is this show really on Fox?
post #68 of 2083
Well, this episode almost lost me. Didn't like any of the music choices and the music wasn't near a diverse as the first 2 episodes. The Cheerleader dancers song just didn't fit IMO. They all looked like pro dancers, not HS cheerleaders. So far I've liked the pilot best and last weeks show was really good as well but, this weeks almost turned me off for some reason. I didn't like the music choices at all in this weeks episode which could be a sign that this show will just not be for me. I have very picky music taste and, the first 2 episodes had some songs right up my ally which made the ones that weren't more bearable. This week, not so much. I'm still going to watch the show but, I hope they get back to the better diversity of music that was in the pilot (and for the most part, last weeks episode as well). Really, really hated the "Bust yo Window" (or whatever the title is) song. Almost turned it off right there. Wasn't just the song but, the dancers looked too old and the scene just took me out of the show. It was like I was watching the VMAs and it just didn't work for me. Thankfully, the none singing parts of the episode were still really good and kept me hanging around.

Oh, the studio tracking seems to be getting worse with each episode. Really surprised that aren't doing a better job with it, unless they are going for the music video look. You would think that if the characters are singing on stage, they would want it to look like they are singing live on stage and not in a recording studio.
post #69 of 2083
Just to mention one...more...thing...about the dubbed audio. See, this week when that big dance group did a number, they sounded the exact same as our little 6 member Glee club did last week. All I'm saying is, make it a bit more realistic.

I about spit my drink out when Mercedes busted the windshield then did a sassy turn around and broke out into song. That was so awkward and funny at the same time.
post #70 of 2083
I thought that the comedy and drama this week were better than the music, which in a show like Glee is not necessarily a good thing. I didn't hate this week's episode but it did not engage me as the pilot and last week's show had done. I thought the musical high point was the big black and blue production number with the other glee club. It was fun to watch but seemed to be almost a non sequitur. The Acafellas numbers didn't do much for me.

It was interesting to see Victor Garber as Will's father. Garber played Anthony in the original Broadway production of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd and has been a big time Broadway guy ever since. He is 60 now, so I don't know whether he still sings or not. If so, it would be fun to see that worked into the show.

Despite my mild disappointment with this week's show, I continue to rather like the series.
post #71 of 2083
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Really, really hated the "Bust yo Window" (or whatever the title is) song. Almost turned it off right there. Wasn't just the song but, the dancers looked too old and the scene just took me out of the show. It was like I was watching the VMAs and it just didn't work for me.


I think that entire performance was a fantasy inside of Mercedes' head, which is why it was a bit more "glitzy" than the typical musical numbers on the show. I felt it was like she was seeing a music video in her head to explain why she acted out and broke the windshield.

Glee continues to be my favorite new network show in years.
post #72 of 2083
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It was interesting to see Victor Garber as Will's father. Garber played Anthony in the original Broadway production of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd and has been a big time Broadway guy ever since. He is 60 now, so I don't know whether he still sings or not. If so, it would be fun to see that worked into the show.

We saw Garber twice in Sweeny and he was incredible. He has a wonderful tenor voice. His voice has lost a bit with age but he did get to do some singing on Eli Stone and was still very good.

It was also great to see John Lloyd Young from Jeresey Boys do a guest shot (albeit a rather strange one). I believe that he and Lea Michele were an item for some time ( they still may be one). There's a clip on Youtube of them doing a A Little Fall of Rain from Les Mis at the Upright Cabaret in 8/08. It's excellent.

Anyone notice Lauren Gottlieb from SYTYCD front stage center in the big dance routine that the Glee kids went to see when they were hiring the choreographer? It's nice to see some of the talented kids from that show doing well, especially those with real presence like Lauren.
post #73 of 2083
[quote=gwsat;17195597]It was interesting to see Victor Garber as Will's father. Garber played Anthony in the original Broadway production of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd and has been a big time Broadway guy ever since. He is 60 now, so I don't know whether he still sings or not. If so, it would be fun to see that worked into the show.[quote]

Vic broke out into song several times during the run of "Eli Stone". He can still bring it. And even though it's been years now, he'll always be Jack Bristow (from "Alias").

But my hands down favorite Vic Garber scene is the one from "Sleepless in Seattle" when he and Tom Hanks get all emotional over "The Dirty Dozen".

I'm looking forward to seeing more of him on "Glee".
post #74 of 2083
I also found it ironic, probably intentionally, Victor Garber's character secret dream was to be a lawyer since he just came off Eli Stone. I thought this episode was not as good as last week's. The out of sync singing seemed more in line this week mostly due to the acapella numbers.
post #75 of 2083
My favorite scene was Josh Groban coming onto the boozy mother and her saying "... I'm not making good choices right now". Classic.
post #76 of 2083
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't like seeing that black young lady have a musical number when she threw the rock into the gay guy's SUV windshield.

Why? Because that was the first time we've seen a straight "musical" number, i.e. a song is used to tell something in the story, as opposed to just about every other song we've seen in Glee, which has been a performance of some kind by Glee Club, Acafellas, or other glee groups.

Does anyone get my point? It's one thing to see glee club sing songs like "Gold Digger" or a rival glee club does "Rehab", but it's another for the black young lady to get mad in the show and sing a song about it, making the show feel like a musical rather than a show about glee club that includes performances. I just don't want the show to make ANY kind of comparison to "High School Musical," and yes that song/performance/etc as part of the story was HSM territory.
post #77 of 2083
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't like seeing that black young lady have a musical number when she threw the rock into the gay guy's SUV windshield.

Why? Because that was the first time we've seen a straight "musical" number, i.e. a song is used to tell something in the story, as opposed to just about every other song we've seen in Glee, which has been a performance of some kind by Glee Club, Acafellas, or other glee groups.

Does anyone get my point? It's one thing to see glee club sing songs like "Gold Digger" or a rival glee club does "Rehab", but it's another for the black young lady to get mad in the show and sing a song about it, making the show feel like a musical rather than a show about glee club that includes performances. I just don't want the show to make ANY kind of comparison to "High School Musical," and yes that song/performance/etc as part of the story was HSM territory.

I loved it because it was creative -- much like a musical I agree -- no where on TV is anyone doing something this creative -- which is why I lover this show.
post #78 of 2083
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I loved it because it was creative -- much like a musical I agree -- no where on TV is anyone doing something this creative -- which is why I lover this show.



Last year we had a far more creative show IMHO, 'Pushing Daisies'. Just brilliant on every level, and different from anything that had come before. Nobody watched and now Pushing Daisies is...well...pushing up daisies.
post #79 of 2083
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Anyone notice Lauren Gottlieb from SYTYCD front stage center in the big dance routine that the Glee kids went to see when they were hiring the choreographer? It's nice to see some of the talented kids from that show doing well, especially those with real presence like Lauren.

Yeah I saw that. Had to rewind it since my wife missed it. I didn't see any other SYTYCD alums.
post #80 of 2083
I don't mind the break into song gimmic. I liked it on Eli Stone. I'm a fan of musicals and that's the formula.

What I have been surprised by is that no one has brought up the obvious comparison to the "Fame" TV show from the 80s.
post #81 of 2083
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Last year we had a far more creative show IMHO, 'Pushing Daisies'. Just brilliant on every level, and different from anything that had come before. Nobody watched and now Pushing Daisies is...well...pushing up daisies.

Totally agree - I own the Pushing Daisies BlueRay discs - unbelievable quality of picture etc. and a very creative show - was distressed to see it go away. If people don't support these creative shows - we will be relegated to reality TV and Jay Leno
post #82 of 2083
So at the end of the show, was the point the evil blond cheerleader trying to make to her coach was to thank her for teaching her a lesson opposite of the point she was trying to make to begin with? Meaning is she starting to turn to "Glee's" side?
post #83 of 2083
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I thought that the comedy and drama this week were better than the music, which in a show like Glee is not necessarily a good thing. I didn't hate this week's episode but it did not engage me as the pilot and last week's show had done. I thought the musical high point was the big black and blue production number with the other glee club. It was fun to watch but seemed to be almost a non sequitur. The Acafellas numbers didn't do much for me.

It was interesting to see Victor Garber as Will's father. Garber played Anthony in the original Broadway production of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd and has been a big time Broadway guy ever since. He is 60 now, so I don't know whether he still sings or not. If so, it would be fun to see that worked into the show.

Despite my mild disappointment with this week's show, I continue to rather like the series.

Victor Garber had some good musical moments in Eli Stone. I'll be interested to see if Glee can match the "musical standard" Eli Stone set. I'll really miss Eli this year, but so far Glee is filling in some of that quirky void.

I agree this episode was a little more uneven than the first ones, but I'm enjoying it, too.
post #84 of 2083
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So at the end of the show, was the point the evil blond cheerleader trying to make to her coach was to thank her for teaching her a lesson opposite of the point she was trying to make to begin with? Meaning is she starting to turn to "Glee's" side?

Apparently.
post #85 of 2083
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Originally Posted by pappy97 View Post

Why? Because that was the first time we've seen a straight "musical" number, i.e. a song is used to tell something in the story, as opposed to just about every other song we've seen in Glee, which has been a performance of some kind by Glee Club, Acafellas, or other glee groups.

Does anyone get my point? It's one thing to see glee club sing songs like "Gold Digger" or a rival glee club does "Rehab", but it's another for the black young lady to get mad in the show and sing a song about it, making the show feel like a musical rather than a show about glee club that includes performances. I just don't want the show to make ANY kind of comparison to "High School Musical," and yes that song/performance/etc as part of the story was HSM territory.

I thought that Mercedes' (played by Amber Riley) anguished song, which she sang after Kurt told her that he was romantically interested in another girl, was a better choice than some of the free standing numbers that seem to have nothing to do with the show other than to provide a musical interlude. Recall that Take a Bow, which Rachel (played by Lea Michelle) performed at the end of last week's episode, was also, like Mercedes' song, an anguished lament about the end of a would be relationship. That sort thing is the mother's milk of music drama, any music drama, it seems to me. Anyway, both Mercedes and Lea Michelle's torch songs worked for me and, I thought, fit well in the fabric of the show.

Although the quintessentially American version of music drama, the musical, started out as a pastiche of freestanding musical numbers placed within the framework of a lightweight story, it started to change with Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein's immortal Show Boat, which was first produced on Broadway in 1927. Since then, the most memorable musicals have been those that mostly used their music to tell a story. The names that come to my mind first are Rogers and Hammerstein, and Stephen Sondheim. Thus, I guess it's no surprise that I like to see musical numbers in Glee that drive the story, particularly when they are as well done as the two solos we have been discussing here.
post #86 of 2083
As usual, gwsat, you're insightful and articulate. You have a knack of getting to the heart of things quickly.
post #87 of 2083
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post #88 of 2083
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Thank you Firefox Dictionary add-on.

Pastiche is a word I use once and a while and I didn't have to look it up, I promise. Unfortunately, my reasons why I use it are lost in the mists of antiquity.
post #89 of 2083
I think one of the things we have to look forward to is how they'll add to the Glee Club's numbers. Lascivious or not, it's been fun to watch as the Chastity Cheerios and the Cougar Hunter have added their voices to the musical melee, not to mention the Accafellas. Speaking of which, though, the whole idea of an independent group diluting Will's passion for Glee is part of why this episode felt uneven and disruptive overall.
post #90 of 2083
Did I mention that I went to William McKinley High School? I think about those days every time I watch this show.
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