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post #661 of 2116
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My beef about the Madonna episode (besides not liking their cover of that open your heart to me song) is that I don't like having an episode with a one artist theme.

What I like about Glee so much is that usually each episode has covers of a variety of songs from different genres. Having a Madonna episode takes that away and I find it annoying.
post #662 of 2116
I have the same visceral reaction to Madonna the guys in the Glee club do. If they realize this, why do it?
post #663 of 2116
I've read good things about next weeks episode and I hope that it delivers because I, as others have, have been really underwhelmed with the first 2 episodes back from the break. The first 13 episodes had me sprinting to I-tunes after each episode to get 2 or more songs...through these first 2 episodes I haven't bought a single song (I *may* get Like a Prayer though) and have found the shortcomings that were easily ignored in the first run of episodes are more apparent and more annoying now.
post #664 of 2116
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Originally Posted by drocpsu View Post

Also, the entire Madonna-themed episode was obnoxious. It was clearly an attempt to release a Glee-madonna cd. The number of performances during the show seemed pretty high in comparison to previous episodes also. I look forward to future episodes but this one seemed completely outside of the storyline to be a "lets promote madonna" episode instead.

Then you're REALLY not going to like this episode coming up:

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...tured-on-glee/

This is not a spoiler since it will be as heavily promoted as the Madonna ep.
post #665 of 2116
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I have the same visceral reaction to Madonna the guys in the Glee club do. If they realize this, why do it?

Synergy, I suspect. There's probably some corporate connection with Madonna (new album?) and the producers of 'Glee'. Seems odd and out of place otherwise. Madonna's not as culturally relevant as she used to be. She needs something to connect her to younger audiences and jog the memories of the older ones. 'Glee' seems to be more and more about selling music and generating ancillary income streams than simply providing an hour of entertainment. Don't know if this was their plan from the start or if it was implemented as a result of the program's rapidly developing rabid fanbase.
post #666 of 2116
I liked the Madonna episode. The Cheerio number were great my only problem is I wish they had not done the Sue number last week.
post #667 of 2116
Does the main target audience for Glee even listen to Madonna? This was the worst episode yet, I hate Madonna music with a passion. My wife had to make me leave the room because I kept complaining so much about this episode. This episode had nothing to do with even attempting to make entertaining TV but, was a pure money grab. Like Madonna's ego needed this.

Other then the crappy music, they change some things for this episode that just bugged me. First, there were too many songs, barely enough room for a plot because of the number of songs. They also used a song with Madonna singing as part of the score playing over a scene, they haven't done this before. It felt forced and out of place, like Madonna demanded her voice be in the show.

I hope they don't start doing more artist specific episodes. The main reason I like the show is for the great diversity of music. I'm not a big fan of the music that is popular these days but, I always knew that Glee would throw a song or two in there that I would enjoy. Basically, it has a little something for everyone. This episode was only for Madonna fans and I doubt that many young people are these days.

Sorry for the rant but I'm only upset because I have enjoyed glee so much til now. I've just never seen a TV show so obviously scream money grab before and this episode just pissed me off.
post #668 of 2116
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

I've read good things about next weeks episode and I hope that it delivers because I, as others have, have been really underwhelmed with the first 2 episodes back from the break. The first 13 episodes had me sprinting to I-tunes after each episode to get 2 or more songs...through these first 2 episodes I haven't bought a single song (I *may* get Like a Prayer though) and have found the shortcomings that were easily ignored in the first run of episodes are more apparent and more annoying now.

I'm afraid to say that I'm in the same boat here. There wasn't a single episode in the first half of the season that didn't hit me on some level. For the two episodes thus far, I have yet to get that kind of feeling again. The rush of celebrity cameos that will be occurring this season also concerns me: will Glee lose focus on what made it great? I sure hope not, but so far I haven't seen any indication that things are going to change. (Well, maybe once when we got to see Becky on the cheerios squad.)
post #669 of 2116
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

I, as others have, have been really underwhelmed with the first 2 episodes back from the break. The first 13 episodes had me sprinting to I-tunes after each episode to get 2 or more songs...through these first 2 episodes I haven't bought a single song (I *may* get Like a Prayer though) and have found the shortcomings that were easily ignored in the first run of episodes are more apparent and more annoying now.

I'm not sure that I was underwhelmed Mac but I have to agree on the more general point. While we enjoyed the first two shows, there seems to be something a bit off compared to the first run of 13. I can't even put my finger on it but it's just a vague feeling. It was nice to see Naya Rivera and Heather Morris featured more on this week's show. Rivera is something to see and Morris' delivery of these insanely vapid lines is hilarious. Will's comeback to Sue on the hair gags was good but maybe it's time to phase that line of jokes out a bit. One thing that is constant is Jane Lynch's brilliant delivery of some of the funniest stuff on TV right now. But still, the second "season" seems slightly akilter in some way. Hopefully that will change next week.
post #670 of 2116
Hey, so it turns out wives don't really like it when you go off on a rant about how unrealistic it was that Finn would at first turn down Santana, and then later complain about having no feelings about it, and that any red-blooded dude would do her in a heartbeat and be proud of it. Just a warning for any other husband who watches this show with his wife.
post #671 of 2116
I def agree with many of the comments about this group of episodes so far but this show is still 10x better then most of the crap on tv - though Lost is still the best. Jane Lynch makes this show - her freak out after the Shuster comments and throwing the kid into the locker was hilarious.

Having Madonna as a theme episode makes total sense. There's no other pop act that has had as big an influence on pop culture as she has. Whether you like her music or not - and I'm no big fan of hers- she definitely has far more talent then some of the pop music put out today. This episode definitely doesn't really continue the story line that much except for more Finn/Rachel/New Kid story line. The problem with this block of eps is there is no real direction. The beginning everything was about Sectionals and every episode made that clear. Now its supposed to be about states or finals. There are a lot of story lines that need to be addressed before the finale. If Jane Lynch doesn't get an emmy and this show isn't nominated for something then voters have no clue whats good on TV.
post #672 of 2116
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Originally Posted by giantyank001 View Post

Having Madonna as a theme episode makes total sense. There's no other pop act that has had as big an influence on pop culture as she has.

I'm gonna guess Beatles and Elvis fans might have a somewhat different opinion.
post #673 of 2116
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

While we enjoyed the first two shows, there seems to be something a bit off compared to the first run of 13. I can't even put my finger on it but it's just a vague feeling.

Part of it is that the writers are getting lazy with Sue. Same hair jokes, same pushing kids in to lockers, same blackmail, etc. Dressing her up as Madonna was different, but in general she has been more two dimensional than in previous episodes.
post #674 of 2116
How are they going to justify the Lady GaGa episode? At least they pushed some BS about Madonna empowering women. What the heck are they going to use for Lady GaGa? lol
post #675 of 2116
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

How are they going to justify the Lady GaGa episode? At least they pushed some BS about Madonna empowering women. What the heck are they going to use for Lady GaGa? lol

If anything Lady Gaga is much more relevant in the music industry right now than Madonna is. Also, I don't think they're doing a full on episode about her, just a few songs I believe (which is much more tolerable than the nonsense last week).
post #676 of 2116
Here is a preview of the Lady GaGa episode, I think it's an all out one like Madonna's.




Also the next Glee album hits on May 18th.
http://www.examiner.com/x-42456-Glee...nd-the-Beatles
post #677 of 2116
^^^

Tina looks more like Bobby Lee than her normal self in that picture.
post #678 of 2116
Interesting. I recorded the repeat of this week's episode and watched it today. For some reason, I enjoyed it more than on the first viewing. The musical numbers, especially Express Yourself and the guy's brief rendition of What It Feels Like To Be a Girl were outstanding.
post #679 of 2116
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Glee is a force of nature now.


correction: GLEE is a big MONEY maker for fox now...

concert tours, DVDs, CDs, iTunes...

and yes i like Glee...
post #680 of 2116
A Lady "who" episode"????? I think my days of Glee watching has come to an end.
post #681 of 2116
Is it just a running gag that we never see Other Asian say a line? He's barely in the show. Even when he is in a scene, it's like the camera works very hard to make sure he's framed out of a shot. Take the boy's number in this week's ep. In a couple of wide shots, he's right next to Finn. But while they show close-ups of every other guy, they skip him and make sure he's off camera. I mean, they are paying the guy a salary. Don't they want to hear him talk or sing occasionally?
post #682 of 2116
He's no more neglected than Other Black guy. I know there used to be a stipulation that you don't have to pay actors as much if they don't say more than 3 words in a show. Is that still true, and could the reason for their lack of dialogue be that simple?
post #683 of 2116
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

A Lady "who" episode"????? I think my days of Glee watching has come to an end.

Sorry, she's the biggest musical act on the planet right now. Why in the world would you think that they WOULDN'T do something of her's?

And for the love of pete folks, please READ the thread before flipping out...it's not a whole episode, it's a couple of songs. If that is really going to send you off the cliff then don't let the door...well, you know the rest.
post #684 of 2116
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

Sorry, she's the biggest musical act on the planet right now. Why in the world would you think that they WOULDN'T do something of her's?

And for the love of pete folks, please READ the thread before flipping out...it's not a whole episode, it's a couple of songs. If that is really going to send you off the cliff then don't let the door...well, you know the rest.

Although I had to ask my daughter about Lady Gaga, I think using her as the focus for a Glee episode makes sense. Apparently, Lady Gaga really is a big time musical talent, as well as a hot topic in the news these days, so why not feature her in a Glee episode?
post #685 of 2116
Boy, people here take things a bit too personally. The show seems to be turning in a new direction and my tastes are quite different musically, so there really is no need for me to continue watching- why be rude? It's just TV after all.
post #686 of 2116
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

He's no more neglected than Other Black guy. I know there used to be a stipulation that you don't have to pay actors as much if they don't say more than 3 words in a show. Is that still true, and could the reason for their lack of dialogue be that simple?

There's another black guy on the show? Who knew?
post #687 of 2116
As one of the few female voices here I'm going to disagree on the Madonna episode. I was no big fan of hers when I was a teenager, but I think she has stood the test of time. She knows how to remake and reinvent herself in a way that few artists from that era have managed. Madonna isn't still around today because of her great musical talent, but because of what she had to say and how she said it, and how she chose to market herself.

If you do listen to her songs, especially the earlier ones, a lot of them are about young women finding power and discovering their identity in their sexuality, which, IMO, makes it a perfect topic for Glee. (Express Yourself being the best example of this.)

Also I'm surprised there isn't more love for the utterly amazing performance by Jane Lynch in Vogue. She is 50 years old, and she out Madonna-ed Madonna. She sang, she danced, and she looked fantastic while she did it. She is a brilliant, fearless performer and my admiration for her goes up every week.

I also thought Like a Prayer was terrific and I'm delighted they included a choir -- it's always been what made that song work.

The first two episodes were a little frenetic plotwise, and yes, there was some resetting, but showrunners can't seem to win on this one -- if they provide a satisfying conclusion at the end of ep. 13, but get picked up, they get grief for the "resetting" of stories to allow the show to continue. But if they leave lots of threads hanging and get canceled, they get pilloried for leaving viewers hanging. It's pretty hard to have this both ways -- TV budgets don't generally allow for shooting multiple endings.
post #688 of 2116
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Originally Posted by Whitearrow View Post

Also I'm surprised there isn't more love for the utterly amazing performance by Jane Lynch in Vogue. She is 50 years old, and she out Madonna-ed Madonna. She sang, she danced, and she looked fantastic while she did it. She is a brilliant, fearless performer and my admiration for her goes up every week.

I don't see why they devoted precious airtime to showing it the week prior to the Madonna episode, and then showing it again during that episode. It was good, Lynch can vamp with the best of 'em, but once was enough.
post #689 of 2116
The television academy screened tomorrow's episode tonight and had a Q&A with most of the cast and the writers tonight. It was pretty awesome. Tomorrow's episode is the total opposite of the Madonna one. I won't spoil it, but Kristen Chenoweth is dynamite, as are Chris Colfer and Amber Riley. Definately one of my favorite episodes so far.

Most actresses look much better on camera than in person, thanks to all the lighting, filters, and makeup. I was surprised at how much more beautiful Lea Michele was in person. I was disappointed that Maya Rivera was not among the participants.

For those of you who are distressed by the Madonna and upcoming Lady Gaga episodes, take note. Ryan Murphy made a point of saying that they have been approached by every band and performer in the world looking to guest star or to use their music, including Paul McCartney and Billy Joel. But he emphasized that what they really want to focus on first is the traditional broadway performer, because they want to highlight the world of dance, song and theater combined. Not just rehash pop music. So that's a good sign.

Today was the last day of shooting season 1. Ryan Murphy said they haven't started to break down the second season yet. They are still focusing on the upcomming stage tour.
post #690 of 2116
I hope they do a 'Paparazzi' cover for the Gaga episode.
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