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Sharp Aquos LC40E77U or Panasonic Viera TC-L37G1 for Viewing Sports?

post #1 of 32
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Wanting an HDTV for my den (a bright room in the daytime), I decided that it's probably smarter to go with LCD rather than plasma.

I have DirecTV (HD) and watch a lot of sports, so I need an LCD with minimal motion-blurring. My room can accomodate either a 37" or 40" and the viewing distance is 8' to 10'. I've narrowed my search down to two 2009 models (but am open to other recommendations).

- Sharp AQUOS LC40E77U (40-inch, 1080p, 120Hz)
- Panasonic VIERA TC-L37G1 (37-inch, 1080p, 120Hz)

I am able to buy either one for under $900 until tomorrow, so I need your advice pretty quick!!!

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 32
Don't know anything about those specific models, but I've been enjoying two Aquos (64U) lcd's, the 65" and the 46" for a year or more and they are both great sets.

I'm also a sports fanatic and even though these lcd's are just 60Hz there is just a small amount of motion-blurring, probably due to the 4ms refresh (imho, a little bit of blurring makes the action more realistic).

So I can only believe that the 120Hz/4ms LC40E77U would be terrific, not to mention that all things being equal, I'd go for the larger screen (there's something about a larger image that lends to more sports excitement)!

Hth
post #3 of 32
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Hey pvsurfer, thanks a lot for the reply (I was beginning to feel ignored)!!!

Although you don't have any experience with the Sharp and Panny that I'm interested in, your experience with two Aquos sets is good to hear and since you watch a lot of sports (like me), your recommendation is very meaningful.
post #4 of 32
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Originally Posted by appzter View Post

Hey pvsurfer, thanks a lot for the reply (I was beginning to feel ignored)!!!

LOL, it's just that those two LCDs have only been on the scene for a couple of months, so there aren't too many of us out there who know much about them (i.e., more than what can be found by googling).
post #5 of 32
Which one did you prefer Picture Quality wise?

Its all about your own thoughts
post #6 of 32
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Originally Posted by Tim L View Post

Which one did you prefer Picture Quality wise?

Its all about your own thoughts

Hi Tim,

They both seem to have comparable PQ - not much difference that I could see, but that's just after spending a total of about an hour in the stores (and not getting much of an opportunity to view sports events).
post #7 of 32
Thread Starter 
Ok, I got a better viewing opportunity (sports-wise) to compare these sets (side-by-side), watching some hockey and tennis. From an action viewpoint, the Sharp was the better of the two LCDs (most likely because its pixel response is 4ms vs. the Panny's 8ms). Otherwise the PP and SQ were comparable, although with the Sharp you get a larger screen for about the same price!

So I bought the AQUOS LC40E77U (it will be delivered tomorrow). If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to report back, after setting it up and spending some quality viewing time with it.
post #8 of 32
From 8' - 10' back on a 40" TV, it won't matter.

You should look into 720p from that distance.
post #9 of 32
Hope you enjoy your purchase

We're still waiting for our E77 to come -_-"
post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by Tim L View Post

Hope you enjoy your purchase

We're still waiting for our E77 to come -_-"

Tim I hope you report in on your new sharp tv once you get. I saw the model below this one the E67U and can saw I was impressed with its picture. I was at bb and they had the outdoor channel on, for days they ran those stupid film reels over and over. I hope most agree that they do not give a honest viewing of the tv. Also the guy at bb caught me changing channels and asked what i was doing, and I replied judging TV's don't call the cops on me.
lol.
post #11 of 32
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

From 8' - 10' back on a 40" TV, it won't matter.

You should look into 720p from that distance.

What won't matter? ...and fwiw, the 720p Aquos doesn't hold a candle to the 1080p model - there's a noticeable PQ improvement in the higher res sets. Besides, I'm thinking of getting a Blu-Ray player (1080p)!
post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by Tim L View Post

Hope you enjoy your purchase

We're still waiting for our E77 to come -_-"

Hey Tim,

I wasn't aware that you were also getting one (guess I missed that)! Mine 'should be' delivered tomorrow; where are you getting yours from, and can I ask what you paid for it?

After we both have them for a week or so, let's compare notes.
post #13 of 32
Meant to say the 52" model but hey, similar everything =P

Still paid a bit more than in the states [we're in Canada]
post #14 of 32
I have a question for both of you who recently got the e77u. Did you consider the sony 40S5100 or the 40V5100 now that they have a fix for the dimming problem? How do you thing the e77u matches up in blacks, I think they are close but can't decide. Again what made you pick the sharp against the almighty samsung or sony, if you don't mind me asking, also not a sony fanboy. So do not be afraid.
post #15 of 32
Kinda irrelevant for us since we got a different size but it ultimately came down to price, value and manufacturing quality.

PQ was similar [they had more 46 and 42" models on the floor than 52"]
post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by atom5 View Post

I have a question for both of you who recently got the e77u. Did you consider the sony 40S5100 or the 40V5100 now that they have a fix for the dimming problem? How do you thing the e77u matches up in blacks, I think they are close but can't decide. Again what made you pick the sharp against the almighty samsung or sony, if you don't mind me asking, also not a sony fanboy. So do not be afraid.

I compared the E77U against the V5100 and here's what I thought:

As far as I could tell, PQ and SQ are comparable on both sets.
E77U has less blurring than V5100 in fast motion (sports).
In my area, the E77U cost about $200 less than V5100.

I also checked out some Sammy's (plus others), and imho at or near the E77U's price range, nothing comes close!
post #17 of 32
I sort of posted this same message elsewhere. I went back the other day to look at the 77u. It's sad when store do not hook up all tv's to the same connection. The 77u disappointed me in that all I could compare was ota and ota against the sony 40s5100. The sony came out on top. The sharp was so fuzzy it was horrible. I will have to go to a different store to compare them.
I belive stores do this on purpose to get customers to buy one brand over the other. Also I did not feel like buying it and then finding out it was still horrible. Since last month I got a tv from sears and had to take it back cause it would not work at all, ugh!
post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by atom5 View Post

I sort of posted this same message elsewhere. I went back the other day to look at the 77u. It's sad when store do not hook up all tv's to the same connection. The 77u disappointed me in that all I could compare was ota and ota against the sony 40s5100. The sony came out on top. The sharp was so fuzzy it was horrible. I will have to go to a different store to compare them.
I belive stores do this on purpose to get customers to buy one brand over the other. Also I did not feel like buying it and then finding out it was still horrible. Since last month I got a tv from sears and had to take it back cause it would not work at all, ugh!

As I replied to you in the other thread, my E77U isn't fuzzy (quite the contrary, its PQ is superb)! There must have been something wrong with that particular set or its feed.

Find a retailer who will allow you to compare the same programming material on various sets (that should not be difficult)!
post #19 of 32
Yes, I have finally seen this tv with a HD channel from last night hockey game and yes it was very good picture. Better than the sears hook up and I reported fuzzy connection. But here is my rub against all these retail store. I was standing in front of this bank of TV's next to the 77u. It took another customer who was ready to buy a tv to yell out that he was not buying anything until they turned off the dvd movie and put on a HD TV channel. Well they put on the hockey game and it has a really nice picture. Yea!
post #20 of 32
i think so ..Skipping/stuttering DTS audio issue through digital optical out about every 10 seconds in many .MKV container video filess.
(remuxing to .M2TS container temporary solves the issue)



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post #21 of 32
Movie mode on Sharp has completely judder-free picture.... brilliant.

I have high respects for Panasonic as brand. However, to me even the most expensive plasmas (Kuros) flicker if there's a lot of white area displayed in the picture - quite unbelievable...

I checked Viera plasma screens and Sharp had better blacks, was much sharper and clearer with better energy ratings as well...

In fact, I searched long and hard for my CRT replacement... compared Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp and was seriously considering Kuro plasma model as well... to me the Sharp looked really good overall and reminded me a lot of my CRT.

I suggest you to compare, compare, compare... find the shop with friendly staff and try different sources as well. Check their signal distribution and feeds - sometimes they have stock that needs clearing - so they feed them HDMI source where other TV's receive inferior feeds.

Boky
post #22 of 32
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Just want to report that I'm into the 4th day with my new LC40E77U and it's everything I thought it would be. Excellent PQ, and from a sports fan's perspective, fast action blurring is hardly noticeable. While evaluating various sets, the only other LCD I saw that was just as good for fast action was LG's 37LH40 (which was spectacular). But since the LG had a smaller screen (37") than the 40" E77U (and was more expensive!), I opted for the Aquos.
post #23 of 32
this new Sharp Aquos may be the sleeper of the year, i saw it at costco, and the picture is so sharp and sharp color, compared it to the samsung 610 lcd they have there and it looks better, can anybody relate.
post #24 of 32
do any of you play video games on the sharp e77u?
im really curious as to how much input lag it has with game mode on.
post #25 of 32
Hi apptzer

Can you tell me if the Panasonic TC-L37G1 had a matte or glossy screen? Thanks.
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by Dvision View Post

Hi apptzer

Can you tell me if the Panasonic TC-L37G1 had a matte or glossy screen? Thanks.

Well, it's been a month since I saw it, but I recall the screen glass was 'glossy' like most of the current crop of LCDs. However I didn't notice any reflections (and that's something that definitely would have bothered me). It's PQ was very good (as good as the Sharp) but it showed more blurring during fast hockey action than the Aquos.
post #27 of 32
Thanks appzter.
I was hoping the Panasonic would be better with motion. According to the .pdf of the owner's manual on the Panasonic website, the 'Motion Picture Pro 3' feature is adjustable to 'Off' or 'Weak' or 'Strong'. Did you happen to check or adjust this setting when you compared the Panasonic and Sharp? Thanks again.
post #28 of 32
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Originally Posted by Dvision View Post

Thanks appzter.
I was hoping the Panasonic would be better with motion. According to the .pdf of the owner's manual on the Panasonic website, the 'Motion Picture Pro 3' feature is adjustable to 'Off' or 'Weak' or 'Strong'. Did you happen to check or adjust this setting when you compared the Panasonic and Sharp? Thanks again.

Sorry, no (I wasn't know about the setting). All that I can tell you is that the salesman was very aware that I was comparing sets based on how they handled fast action.
post #29 of 32
I would like to go with Panasonic Viera TC-L37G1. Good picture quality, easy to install. Highly recommeded.
post #30 of 32
Ok what about the 46d85u over the 40e77u? I saw that I can get it(if any left in stock) at local store the 46d85u, the difference in cost is very alittle. Is this a no brainer, get 85u right, bigger screen size for one reason and price? I think the local store is trying to get rid of them there was only two left last week, and did not give it much thought. Since i was after a different brand and model.
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